WestCanMan Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 57 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Yeah except unbeknownst to you, the scam is people like you being scammed by people like him Ok Russian collusion boy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: What damage did Chansley do that compares to a slow night for BLM? Tried to overthrow our government, you thick fark. Quote Of course they did. They let their highest ranking ex-members use weight of their name with their intended lies. It's the exact same thing. If ex-FBI members came out and said that the FBI has evidence that Biden raped children it wouldn't take a month to set the record straight. The FBI absolutely spread the message that Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation, they just did it by proxy. A. There is not a shred of evidence or substantiation for any of what you are claiming. Just your conspiracy addled imagination. B. Can you identify even a single signatory to that letter who is "ex-FBI"? Jeebus. Stop lying--if you're even capable of stopping. Quote The very same day Brown was shot, the footage was on Fox. Period. I'm not moving any goalposts anywhere, stupid. A. You literally changed your claim from the post before, in which you tried to claim "the day of the riot." You're apparently now moving it back. Fine. B. False. Objectively, decisively false. Again. The footage was not released anywhere until the 15th, six days after Brown was shot. I literally posted the front page of FOX news from the 15th showing the "new evidence" that was the robbery footage. You are just a shameless liar. Period. Quote 1) Sedition has ONE meaning, and 2) it's ridiculous to say that everyone in the group was a planner or leader. Is everyone who builds a house an architect? Some people, like you, are just followers and they will never think for themselves or have an original idea that doesn't come from above. Jeebus. This is what it must feel like to beat up a toddler. Pretty easy, and not very satisfying. 1. 2. Kelly Meggs of the Oath Keepers has already been convicted of Seditious Conspiracy as well as joining the mob in the capitol. Literally convicted of planning the assault on the capitol and in participating in the mob that carried out the assault. Literally convicted of sedition. I'm going to type it really slowly, so that even you can keep up: a person can plan to overthrow the government and then attempt to do so. Not exclusive of one another. And for that matter acts of rebellion can themselves be seditious. The Boston Tea Party, for example, was an act of rebellion, but also intended to rally others to the cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Ok Russian collusion boy ? ….Says the Kremlin propaganda puppet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hodad said: Tried to overthrow our government, you thick fark. No he didn't, Demmie. Stop repeating Pelosi talking points as if they're grounded in reality. How old are you? Quote A. There is not a shred of evidence or substantiation for any of what you are claiming. Just your conspiracy addled imagination. B. Can you identify even a single signatory to that letter who is "ex-FBI"? Jeebus. Stop lying--if you're even capable of stopping. You have no excuse for not being aware of this by now, you're just talking out of your arse again. Quote Jeebus. This is what it must feel like to beat up a toddler. You'd have to ask another leftist if you don't honestly know. Quote 1. Kudos, you finally listened to me when I said "Stay silent, make people guess how stupid you are." Now plus 1 it dude: quote me whenever you're around people with all their teeth, or HS or higher education. Quote 2. Kelly Meggs of the Oath Keepers has already been convicted of Seditious Conspiracy as well as joining the mob in the capitol. Literally convicted of planning the assault on the capitol and in participating in the mob that carried out the assault. Literally convicted of sedition. I'm going to type it really slowly, so that even you can keep up: a person can plan to overthrow the government and then attempt to do so. Not exclusive of one another. There's no cure for stupid lol. If he was convicted of seditious conspiracy then there's certainly a chance that he was guilty of it, but: 1) that doesn't mean that Trump is guilty of it as well 2) it also doesn't mean that the perp was acting seditiously when he attacked the building. That's not sedition at all. (I hate to confusticate your little hobbit-sized brain any more than I have to, but it would constitute proof that he wasn't just whistling Dixie when he was blabbering about it to people, which would help make the sedition charge stick if there wasn't enough other evidence.) As an example of #1: DeSantis can say that he's against late-term abortion of healthy babies, that doesn't mean that he's guilty of planning whatever terrorist attacks ANTIFA might carry out against it for their own reasons, and it doesn't mean that his old Prez, Mr. Donald Jehosephat Trump, is guilty either. I don't know why I bothered to tell you that though, because learning and/or applying knowledge are pesky little nuisances that your Dem conditioning has freed you from, mafioso-style. As an example of #2: if you plan an attack, you don't conduct the attack planningly. There was no such thing as "planning mobs running amok in the area that they overran in Seattle during the "Summer of Love", when, in the span of just 3 weeks, their tiny police force managed to kill one black child and critically injure a 14 yr old. Lovingly." As another example: when people do the manual labour to create a skyscraper, are they "building" it or "architecting" it? Is it even likely that all the people involved in the construction are architects? Run up the stairs and ask your mom. Edited March 16, 2023 by WestCanMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Mako said: Cops were on both sides of the door. Let’s leave the fetid swamp of your imagination and consider reality. How many people did the Jan. 6 protesters actually kill? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/04/magazine/jan-6-capitol-police-officers.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare How does it make you feel to be a traitor to the United States? Edited March 16, 2023 by Rebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Rebound said: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/04/magazine/jan-6-capitol-police-officers.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare How does it make you feel to be a traitor to the United States? The traitors are the ones justifying government goons murdering unarmed women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) Prosecutors say newly aired Chansley footage paints misleading portrait of his Jan. 6 conduct Quote Prosecutors on Sunday rejected the notion that newly public footage of Jacob Chansley — known as the QAnon Shaman — accompanied by police in the Capitol undercuts his criminal conduct on Jan. 6, 2021.In their first response since Fox News’ Tucker Carlson aired the footage — supplied to him by Speaker Kevin McCarthy — prosecutors indicated that Carlson aired footage only from a four-minute period toward the end of Chansley’s hour long trip through the Capitol, omitting the most incriminating aspects of his conduct. Of course Carlson's whitewash of Jan 6th WAS THE OBJECTIVE of McCarthy's political maneuver. Well PLAYED Kevin, but you're not fooling anyone aside from the Trump CULT. AKA, the OP of this thread. LMAO Edited March 16, 2023 by robosmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Mako said: The traitors are the ones justifying government goons murdering unarmed women. The Justice Department investigated and determined that the shooting was legally justified. Therefore, it was not murder. Murder is a crime and a person has only committed murder if convicted. In this instance there was not even a charge filed. So you are wrong, there was no murder. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Rebound said: The Justice Department investigated and determined that the shooting was legally justified. Therefore, it was not murder. Murder is a crime and a person has only committed murder if convicted. In this instance there was not even a charge filed. So you are wrong, there was no murder. I suppose Stalin’s officials exonerated quite a few authoritarian thugs. That’s what happens in a police state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 On 3/15/2023 at 12:41 PM, Hodad said: No, you're just not interested in arguments. You've dismissed the assessment of everyone on scene at the time as well as multiple follow-up investigations. Instead you prefer your fantasy re-enactment. Nobody is "afraid" of your questions. They're just stupid questions that don't merit any response. If you think self-defense is based on race you've got bigger problems than immunity to information. Translation: Hodad can’t answer my questions and always meekly accepts the dictates of our exalted bureaucrats. Do you always lick the boots of statist goons? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, Mako said: I suppose Stalin’s officials exonerated quite a few authoritarian thugs. That’s what happens in a police state. You can supposed any fantasy you want, but it has NOTHING TO DO with the REALITY of what happened on Jan 6th. AKA, YOUR speculation is meaningless. You can't even cite a legal expert to back it, let alone a consensus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Mako said: I suppose Stalin’s officials exonerated quite a few authoritarian thugs. That’s what happens in a police state. What happens in a police state is that you’d be arrested for criticizing the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, robosmith said: You can supposed any fantasy you want, but it has NOTHING TO DO with the REALITY of what happened on Jan 6th. AKA, YOUR speculation is meaningless. You can't even cite a legal expert to back it, let alone a consensus. Please stop lying. https://www.newsweek.com/us-capitol-police-sued-10-million-killing-unarmed-rioter-1587449 "A rookie police officer would not have shot this woman," Roberts told Zenger News. "If she committed any crime by going through the window and into the Speaker's Lobby, it would have been trespassing. Some misdemeanor crime. All a rookie cop would have done is arrest her.” "And he has plenty of other officers there to assist with arrest," he said of the shooter. "You had officers on Ashli's side of the door in riot gear and holding submachine guns. And on the other side of the door you have another uniformed officer 6 or 8 feet away. Whose life is he saving by shooting her? ... She's not brandishing a weapon. She's on the window ledge. And there's no reason to think she's armed." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mako said: Please stop lying. https://www.newsweek.com/us-capitol-police-sued-10-million-killing-unarmed-rioter-1587449 "A rookie police officer would not have shot this woman," Roberts told Zenger News. "If she committed any crime by going through the window and into the Speaker's Lobby, it would have been trespassing. Some misdemeanor crime. All a rookie cop would have done is arrest her.” "And he has plenty of other officers there to assist with arrest," he said of the shooter. "You had officers on Ashli's side of the door in riot gear and holding submachine guns. And on the other side of the door you have another uniformed officer 6 or 8 feet away. Whose life is he saving by shooting her? ... She's not brandishing a weapon. She's on the window ledge. And there's no reason to think she's armed." You should tell the Babbitt family lawyer to stop lying. She is a PAID ADVOCATE for that family and as such will tell ANY PLAUSIBLE argument to serve her clients' interest. AKA LIE. Obvious LIE is her claim of "plenty of other officers" who were HEAVILY OUTNUMBERED by the MOB. Apparently you (quoting her) believe that officers "holding submachine guns" opening fire on the crowd would have been preferable to ONE PERSON being shot. Do you THINK before posting such DRIVEL? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 7 hours ago, robosmith said: You should tell the Babbitt family lawyer to stop lying. She is a PAID ADVOCATE for that family and as such will tell ANY PLAUSIBLE argument to serve her clients' interest. AKA LIE. Obvious LIE is her claim of "plenty of other officers" who were HEAVILY OUTNUMBERED by the MOB. Apparently you (quoting her) believe that officers "holding submachine guns" opening fire on the crowd would have been preferable to ONE PERSON being shot. Do you THINK before posting such DRIVEL? A plausible argument is not a lie. There we’re officers on both sides of the door who could have arrested Babbitt. Only takes a few seconds. But you’d rather murder than arrest her because she doesn’t hold the same opinions as you. This is because you are deeply in love with fascist thugs. Is it true you spend your free time licking Nazi boots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) Why couldn’t the cops have arrested Babbitt instead of killing her? If Byrd had been white and Babbitt black and left wing would you still justify her murder? How many did the January 6 protesters kill? We don’t want to live in a police state do we? https://www.worldtribune.com/report-capitol-police-incited-jan-6-crowd-by-firing-flash-bangs-tear-gas/ Edited March 17, 2023 by Mako Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Mako said: Why couldn’t the cops have arrested Babbitt instead of killing her? If Byrd had been white and Babbitt black and left wing would you still justify her murder? How many did the January 6 protesters kill? We don’t want to live in a police state do we? https://www.worldtribune.com/report-capitol-police-incited-jan-6-crowd-by-firing-flash-bangs-tear-gas/ Well… police kill domestic terrorists in America, and Ashlii Babbit was a domestic terrorist. Guess you shouldn’t try to storm the US Capitol building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Mako said: Why couldn’t the cops have arrested Babbitt instead of killing her? If Byrd had been white and Babbitt black and left wing would you still justify her murder? How many did the January 6 protesters kill? We don’t want to live in a police state do we? https://www.worldtribune.com/report-capitol-police-incited-jan-6-crowd-by-firing-flash-bangs-tear-gas/ Many, many posts later and you are still just asking the exact same stupid questions, as if no one has ever replied to you. Consider starting a blog if you just want to broadcast. Your behavior is like flying a banner to let everyone know that engaging with you is pointless--literally pointless. This kind of trolling is a quick way to get on people's ignore list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Mako said: A plausible argument is not a lie. IT CAN BE A LIE. Plausibility does not make it true nor mean that the advocate actually believes it. 7 hours ago, Mako said: There we’re officers on both sides of the door who could have arrested Babbitt. Only takes a few seconds. Policy requires them to escort any prisoner to a particular place for BOOKING thereby removing them from the battle. 7 hours ago, Mako said: But you’d rather murder than arrest her because she doesn’t hold the same opinions as you. This is because you are deeply in love with fascist thugs. Nope. She broke in ILLEGALLY as the spear head for a dangerous MOB. Unfortunate but killing her SAVED LIVES. 7 hours ago, Mako said: Is it true you spend your free time licking Nazi boots? That's your job. Licking the boots of the FASCISTS who tried to OVERTHROW the election. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 On 3/15/2023 at 11:09 PM, WestCanMan said: No he didn't, Demmie. Stop repeating Pelosi talking points as if they're grounded in reality. How old are you? You are still a shameless liar. Yes, the mob sought explicitly to overturn an election and overthrow our government. That's not even a controversial statement. Chansley is on record, you thick fark, as are others. Do you think they were there to deliver girl scout cookies? Jeebus. Nick Quested, a documentary filmmaker, captured the mood that morning. Jacob Chansley (a.k.a. the QAnon Shaman) proclaimed “this is our 1776,” vowing “Joe Biden is never getting in.” 7 An unnamed woman from Georgia, who said she hosted a podcast dedicated to a new so-called Patriot Party, also proclaimed January 6th to be the new 1776. She added an ominous warning. “I’m not allowed to say what’s going to happen today because everyone’s just going to have to watch. Something’s gonna happen, one way or the other.” 8 Quote You have no excuse for not being aware of this by now, you're just talking out of your arse again. Oh, I'm fully aware. Without a shred of evidence, you concocted a stupid conspiracy theory about the FBI "using" retirees to release a statement on the Hunter Biden laptop. And if that weren't dumb enough, you are simply lying about the signatories. Not a single one of them is retired from the FBI. Signed by, Jim Clapper Former Director of National Intelligence Former Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Former Director of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency Former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Mike Hayden Former Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director, National Security Agency Former Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence Leon PaneSa Former Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Secretary of Defense John Brennan Former Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former White House Homeland Security and Counterterrorism Advisor Former Director, Terrorism Threat Integration Center Former Analyst and Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Thomas Finger Former Deputy Director of National Intelligence for Analysis Former Assistant Secretary for Intelligence and Research, Department of State Former Chair, National Intelligence Council Rick LedgeS Former Deputy Director, National Security Agency John McLaughlin Former Acting Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director, Slavic and Eurasian Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Michael Morell Former Acting Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Mike Vickers Former Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Former Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Doug Wise Former Deputy Director, Defense Intelligence Agency Former Senior CIA Operations Officer Nick Rasmussen Former Director, National Counterterrorism Center Russ Travers Former Acting Director, National Counterterrorism Center Former Deputy Director, National Counterterrorism Center Former Analyst of the Soviet Union and Russia, Defense Intelligence Agency Andy Liepman Former Deputy Director, National Counterterrorism Center Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency John Moseman Former Chief of Staff, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of Congressional Affairs, Central Intelligence Agency Former Minority Staff Director, Senate Select CommiSee on Intelligence Larry Pfeiffer Former Chief of Staff, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director, White House Situation Room Jeremy Bash Former Chief of Staff, Central Intelligence Agency Former Chief of Staff, Department of Defense Former Chief Counsel, House Permanent Select CommiSee on Intelligence Rodney Snyder Former Chief of Staff, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of Intelligence Programs, National Security Council Chief of Station, Central Intelligence Agency Glenn Gerstell Former General Counsel, National Security Agency David B. Buckley Former Inspector General, Central Intelligence Agency Former Democratic Staff Director, House Permanent Select CommiSee on Intelligence Former Counterespionage Case Officer, United States Air Force Nada Bakos Former Analyst and Targeting Officer, Central Intelligence Agency PaSy Brandmaier Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Associate Director for Military Affairs, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Director of Congressional Affairs, Central Intelligence Agency James B. Bruce Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Senior Intelligence Officer, National Intelligence Council Considerable work related to Russia David Cariens Former Intelligence Analyst, Central Intelligence Agency 50+ Years Working in the Intelligence Community Janice Cariens Former Operational Support Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Paul Kolbe Former Senior Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Chief, Central Eurasia Division, Central Intelligence Agency Peter Corsell Former Analyst, Central Intelligence Agency BreS Davis Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Director of the Special Activities Center for Expeditionary Operations, CIA Roger Zane George Former National Intelligence Officer Steven L. Hall Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Chief of Russian Operations, Central Intelligence Agency Kent Harrington Former National Intelligence Officer for East Asia, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of Public Affairs, Central Intelligence Agency Former Chief of Station, Central Intelligence Agency Former Analyst, Central Intelligence Agency Don Hepburn Former Senior National Security Executive Timothy D. Kilbourn Former Dean, Sherman Kent School of Intelligence Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Former PDB Briefer to President George W. Bush, Central Intelligence Agency Ron Marks Former Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Twice former staff of the Republican Majority Leader Jonna Hiestand Mendez Technical Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Emile Nakhleh Former Director of the Political Islam Strategic Analysis Program, Central Intelligence Agency Former Senior Intelligence Analyst, Central Intelligence Agency Gerald A. O’Shea Senior Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Served four tours as Chief of Station, Central Intelligence Agency David Priess Former Analyst and Manager, Central Intelligence Agency Former PDB Briefer, Central Intelligence Agency Pam Purcilly Former Deputy Director of Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of the Office of Russian and European Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Former PDB Briefer to President George W. Bush, Central Intelligence Agency Marc Polymeropoulos Former Senior Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Acting Chief of Operations for Europe and Eurasia, Central Intelligence Agency Chris Savos Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Officer Nick Shapiro Former Deputy Chief of Staff and Senior Advisor to the Director, Central Intelligence Agency John Sipher Former Senior Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Chief of Russian Operations, Central Intelligence Agency Stephen Slick Former Senior Director for Intelligence Programs, National Security Council Former Senior Operations Office, Central Intelligence Agency Cynthia Strand Former Deputy Assistant Director for Global Issues, Central Intelligence Agency Greg Tarbell Former Deputy Executive Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Analyst of the Soviet Union and Russia, Central Intelligence Agency David Terry Former Chairman of the National Intelligence Collection Board Former Chief of the PDB, Central Intelligence Agency Former PDB Briefer to Vice President Dick Cheney, Central Intelligence Agency Greg Treverton Former Chair, National Intelligence Council John Tullius Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency David A. Vanell Former Senior Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Winston Wiley Former Director of Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Former Chief, Counterterrorism Center, Central Intelligence Agency Kristin Wood Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former PDB Briefer, Central Intelligence Agency Quote If he was convicted of seditious conspiracy then there's certainly a chance that he was guilty of it, but: 1) that doesn't mean that Trump is guilty of it as well If he was convicted? Jeebus, it's not a hypothetical. He was convicted. And excellent work rebutting a point that no one tried to make. Also true, the Oath Keeper convictions also don't mean that Ben Affleck is guilty of sedition. Or Heidi Klum. Any other individuals we should list? Quote 2) it also doesn't mean that the perp was acting seditiously when he attacked the building. That's not sedition at all. (I hate to confusticate your little hobbit-sized brain any more than I have to, but it would constitute proof that he wasn't just whistling Dixie when he was blabbering about it to people, which would help make the sedition charge stick if there wasn't enough other evidence.) As an example of #1: DeSantis can say that he's against late-term abortion of healthy babies, that doesn't mean that he's guilty of planning whatever terrorist attacks ANTIFA might carry out against it for their own reasons, and it doesn't mean that his old Prez, Mr. Donald Jehosephat Trump, is guilty either. I don't know why I bothered to tell you that though, because learning and/or applying knowledge are pesky little nuisances that your Dem conditioning has freed you from, mafioso-style. As an example of #2: if you plan an attack, you don't conduct the attack planningly. There was no such thing as "planning mobs running amok in the area that they overran in Seattle during the "Summer of Love", when, in the span of just 3 weeks, their tiny police force managed to kill one black child and critically injure a 14 yr old. Lovingly." As another example: when people do the manual labour to create a skyscraper, are they "building" it or "architecting" it? Is it even likely that all the people involved in the construction are architects? Run up the stairs and ask your mom. Seditious is an adjective, jackass, not an adverb. It necessarily describes the mob and the people in the mob, but not necessarily the act of rioting. You are the only one who has used the word "seditiously." Many in the mob were indeed seditious and are on record encouraging actions like storming the capitol. And indeed, some have been convicted of sedition already. And again, there's an argument to be made that the very act of storming the capitol was itself a call and encouragement for others to overthrow this government, ala the Boston Tea Party. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Hodad said: You are still a shameless liar. Yes, the mob sought explicitly to overturn an election and overthrow our government. That's not even a controversial statement. Chansley is on record, you thick fark, as are others. Do you think they were there to deliver girl scout cookies? Jeebus. You don't have the credibility to make accusations, stupid. No one in the world really believes that a handful of almost completely unarmed people tried to overthrow the US gov't. It's just a Demmie talking point. Quote Chansley is on record That's just propaganda you thick fark. It's right outta the "one-party law" playbook for dictators. Every single person on that list is also a frothing-at-the-mouth Russian collusion troll. They don't even have 1 IQ point combined. Quote Nick Quested, a documentary filmmaker, captured the mood that morning. Jacob Chansley (a.k.a. the QAnon Shaman) proclaimed “this is our 1776,” vowing “Joe Biden is never getting in.” 7 An unnamed woman from Georgia, who said she hosted a podcast dedicated to a new so-called Patriot Party, also proclaimed January 6th to be the new 1776. She added an ominous warning. “I’m not allowed to say what’s going to happen today because everyone’s just going to have to watch. Something’s gonna happen, one way or the other.” 8 1) If he's a "filmmaker", where's the "video"? 2) Are you saying that one man's description of what Chansley, the self-appointed leader of no army at all anywhere, said, along with "an ominous warning from an unnamed woman somewhere in Georgia", is proof that there was an actual rebellion of some sort? There's no carnage or anything left over from it? Do you know what 300M people look like? How hard it is to fight them unarmed? That's 10,000 football stadiums full of people opposing them. Did two unarmed people really take all of those people on? Quote Oh, I'm fully aware. Without a shred of evidence, you concocted a stupid conspiracy theory about the FBI "using" retirees to release a statement on the Hunter Biden laptop. And if that weren't dumb enough, you are simply lying about the signatories. Not a single one of them is retired from the FBI. Signed by, Jim Clapper Former Director of National Intelligence Former Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Former Director of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency Former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Mike Hayden Former Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director, National Security Agency Former Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence Leon PaneSa Former Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Secretary of Defense John Brennan Former Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former White House Homeland Security and Counterterrorism Advisor Former Director, Terrorism Threat Integration Center Former Analyst and Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Thomas Finger Former Deputy Director of National Intelligence for Analysis Former Assistant Secretary for Intelligence and Research, Department of State Former Chair, National Intelligence Council Rick LedgeS Former Deputy Director, National Security Agency John McLaughlin Former Acting Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director, Slavic and Eurasian Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Michael Morell Former Acting Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Mike Vickers Former Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Former Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Doug Wise Former Deputy Director, Defense Intelligence Agency Former Senior CIA Operations Officer Nick Rasmussen Former Director, National Counterterrorism Center Russ Travers Former Acting Director, National Counterterrorism Center Former Deputy Director, National Counterterrorism Center Former Analyst of the Soviet Union and Russia, Defense Intelligence Agency Andy Liepman Former Deputy Director, National Counterterrorism Center Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency John Moseman Former Chief of Staff, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of Congressional Affairs, Central Intelligence Agency Former Minority Staff Director, Senate Select CommiSee on Intelligence Larry Pfeiffer Former Chief of Staff, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director, White House Situation Room Jeremy Bash Former Chief of Staff, Central Intelligence Agency Former Chief of Staff, Department of Defense Former Chief Counsel, House Permanent Select CommiSee on Intelligence Rodney Snyder Former Chief of Staff, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of Intelligence Programs, National Security Council Chief of Station, Central Intelligence Agency Glenn Gerstell Former General Counsel, National Security Agency David B. Buckley Former Inspector General, Central Intelligence Agency Former Democratic Staff Director, House Permanent Select CommiSee on Intelligence Former Counterespionage Case Officer, United States Air Force Nada Bakos Former Analyst and Targeting Officer, Central Intelligence Agency PaSy Brandmaier Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Associate Director for Military Affairs, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Director of Congressional Affairs, Central Intelligence Agency James B. Bruce Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Senior Intelligence Officer, National Intelligence Council Considerable work related to Russia David Cariens Former Intelligence Analyst, Central Intelligence Agency 50+ Years Working in the Intelligence Community Janice Cariens Former Operational Support Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Paul Kolbe Former Senior Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Chief, Central Eurasia Division, Central Intelligence Agency Peter Corsell Former Analyst, Central Intelligence Agency BreS Davis Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Director of the Special Activities Center for Expeditionary Operations, CIA Roger Zane George Former National Intelligence Officer Steven L. Hall Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Chief of Russian Operations, Central Intelligence Agency Kent Harrington Former National Intelligence Officer for East Asia, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of Public Affairs, Central Intelligence Agency Former Chief of Station, Central Intelligence Agency Former Analyst, Central Intelligence Agency Don Hepburn Former Senior National Security Executive Timothy D. Kilbourn Former Dean, Sherman Kent School of Intelligence Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Former PDB Briefer to President George W. Bush, Central Intelligence Agency Ron Marks Former Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Twice former staff of the Republican Majority Leader Jonna Hiestand Mendez Technical Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Emile Nakhleh Former Director of the Political Islam Strategic Analysis Program, Central Intelligence Agency Former Senior Intelligence Analyst, Central Intelligence Agency Gerald A. O’Shea Senior Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Served four tours as Chief of Station, Central Intelligence Agency David Priess Former Analyst and Manager, Central Intelligence Agency Former PDB Briefer, Central Intelligence Agency Pam Purcilly Former Deputy Director of Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Former Director of the Office of Russian and European Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Former PDB Briefer to President George W. Bush, Central Intelligence Agency Marc Polymeropoulos Former Senior Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Acting Chief of Operations for Europe and Eurasia, Central Intelligence Agency Chris Savos Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Officer Nick Shapiro Former Deputy Chief of Staff and Senior Advisor to the Director, Central Intelligence Agency John Sipher Former Senior Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former Deputy Chief of Russian Operations, Central Intelligence Agency Stephen Slick Former Senior Director for Intelligence Programs, National Security Council Former Senior Operations Office, Central Intelligence Agency Cynthia Strand Former Deputy Assistant Director for Global Issues, Central Intelligence Agency Greg Tarbell Former Deputy Executive Director, Central Intelligence Agency Former Analyst of the Soviet Union and Russia, Central Intelligence Agency David Terry Former Chairman of the National Intelligence Collection Board Former Chief of the PDB, Central Intelligence Agency Former PDB Briefer to Vice President Dick Cheney, Central Intelligence Agency Greg Treverton Former Chair, National Intelligence Council John Tullius Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency David A. Vanell Former Senior Operations Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Winston Wiley Former Director of Analysis, Central Intelligence Agency Former Chief, Counterterrorism Center, Central Intelligence Agency Kristin Wood Former Senior Intelligence Officer, Central Intelligence Agency Former PDB Briefer, Central Intelligence Agency https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62688532 Quote Zuckerberg told Rogan: "The background here is that the FBI came to us - some folks on our team - and was like 'hey, just so you know, you should be on high alert. We thought there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election, we have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump that's similar to that'." The FBI absolutely was the source of the Dems'/MSM's disinformation/censorship campaign, plain and simple. They had the laptop for almost one full year when they were out there telling lies. You should be alarmed that all the people on your surprisingly thorough list of stooges/disinformants went along with the FBI's plot. That's effin' scary. Instead of just lying on the internet, you should be asking yourself: "Are all of those people that stupid, or that invested in controlling elections?" It's one or the other.... Quote Seditious is an adjective, jackass, not an adverb. Seditious is an adjective describing people who commit sedition, jackass, not describing people who are doing other things. FYI attacking a building is absolutely not a seditious activity anymore than it's a loquacious activity, although one could cut have cut through those serried rows of police at the capitol while armed with only deadly Robbie Burns limericks. Edited March 17, 2023 by WestCanMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Seditious is an adjective describing people who commit sedition, jackass, not describing people who are doing other things. FYI attacking a building is absolutely not a seditious activity anymore than it's a loquacious activity, although one could cut have cut through those serried rows of police at the capitol while armed with only deadly Robbie Burns limericks. Oath Keepers were CONVICTED for SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY committed on Jan 6th Proud Boys were CONVICTED for SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY committed on Jan 6th You've been BUSTED, TOO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 43 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: You don't have the credibility to make accusations, stupid. No one in the world really believes that a handful of almost completely unarmed people tried to overthrow the US gov't. It's just a Demmie talking point. Says the #1 liar on this board. They stated their intentions. Some planned for weeks. Then they executed on their plan. They broke through barricades. They beat police. They hunted for legislators-- Pelosi and Pence specifically. And they successfully disrupted the certification. You're a farking fool if you don't believe they were trying to do exactly what they said they were trying to do. Scratch that, you're just a fool who also happens to believe that. Quote 1) If he's a "filmmaker", where's the "video"? 2) Are you saying that one man's description of what Chansley, the self-appointed leader of no army at all anywhere, said, along with "an ominous warning from an unnamed woman somewhere in Georgia", is proof that there was an actual rebellion of some sort? There's no carnage or anything left over from it? ?♂️ Jeebus. I know you deal primarily in unsubstantiated nonsense, but this is an actual document with actual citations. It's not a quote of Quested describing a scene, it's a quote of Chansley as recorded on video. The exact file name of the footage is identified. You're welcome to watch the available footage or file a FOIA request for the exact snippet. Quote The FBI absolutely was the source of the Dems'/MSM's disinformation/censorship campaign, plain and simple. They had the laptop for almost one full year when they were out there telling lies. You should be alarmed that all the people on your surprisingly thorough list of stooges/disinformants went along with the FBI's plot. That's effin' scary. Instead of just lying on the internet, you should be asking yourself: "Are all of those people that stupid, or that invested in controlling elections?" It's one or the other.... Just like every time you get caught red handed telling one of your whopping lies, you dodge and deflect and change the subject. You are a weasel, lacking any honor whatsoever. Quote Seditious is an adjective describing people who commit sedition, jackass, not describing people who are doing other things. FYI attacking a building is absolutely not a seditious activity anymore than it's a loquacious activity, although one could cut have cut through those serried rows of police at the capitol while armed with only deadly Robbie Burns limericks. Holy crap. You've finally caught on. People who commit sedition, I.E. people in that mob, many of whom committed sedition and some of whom have been charged and convicted of sedition. Brilliant. No you can stop parading your ignorance for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Hodad said: #1 liar on this board. There was a grain of truth in your post. Quote They stated their intentions. Some planned for weeks. Then they executed on their plan. They broke through barricades. They beat police. They hunted for legislators-- Pelosi and Pence specifically. And they successfully disrupted the certification. Your stupid story falls apart because there's such a massive gap between : 1) the leftard claims that there was an overt call to arms to 75M Trump supporters 2) the fact that there were almost no police officers at all outside of the buildings, by Pelosi's choosing Quote You're a farking fool if you don't believe they were trying to do exactly what they said they were trying to do. Scratch that, you're just a fool who also happens to believe that. You're a farking tool if you think that what you have there amounts to proof that there was a "violent insurrection". You have the testimony of a guy who was already diagnosed with mental problems years earlier and anonymous source, jackass. It was obvious by 6 PM eastern time that it was a fart in the wind. If you just turned your TV on it was already over and that gaggle of snowflakes was already back at work. Ask yourself this: if there was really a violent insurrection, and 75M people had really been called to arms, would they have all gone back to work in 3 hrs? Quote Jeebus. I know you deal primarily in unsubstantiated nonsense, but this is an actual document with actual citations. It's not a quote of Quested describing a scene, it's a quote of Chansley as recorded on video. The exact file name of the footage is identified. You're welcome to watch the available footage or file a FOIA request for the exact snippet. The Dems set up their propaganda board specifically so that they could make all of these grand accusations without any evidence. Whether they actually have video of a guy with long-diagnosed mental health issues saying one sentence, or they don't, it's of little consequence. I can show you video evidence of Schiff saying that he had bombshell new evidence of Trump-Russia collusion ten different times and he never produced one single thing, ever. Schiff theoretically has more credibility than the guy with mental health issues, running around dressed as a buffalo hunter. Quote Just like every time you get caught red handed telling one of your whopping lies, you dodge and deflect and change the subject. You are a weasel, lacking any honor whatsoever. You've never caught me lying and you never will. Just keep pretending that Chansley's (theoretically) taped comment is enough to prove that Jan 6th was as big as Pearl Harbour lol. Retard. Quote Holy crap. You've finally caught on. People who commit sedition, I.E. people in that mob, many of whom committed sedition and some of whom have been charged and convicted of sedition. Brilliant. No you can stop parading your ignorance for us. Those were not "seditious" mobs lol. Learn the language, stupid. They were angry mobs. A few dozen were riotous mobs. The act of being "seditious" is the act of talking, or motivating. Compelling. The only seditious act filmed on Jan 6th was that of Epps, urging people to go into the capitol, and breaching the capitol was the only act of violence against the gov't itself, and that's what Epps called for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The only seditious act filmed on Jan 6th was that of Epps, urging people to go into the capitol Lol yeah ok lets unpack this moronic Claim: 1) Out of all the “angry and riotous mobs” at the Capitol Epps was the only person there who suggested anyone enter the capitol. It never would have occurred to anyone m. if only Epps hadn’t said anything! 2) Apparently suggesting that another grown adult do something makes you responsible for any decisions they make. ALL THE MOBS WERE UNDER HIS MIND CONTROL. ALL OF THE HUNDREDS WHO ENTERED THE CAPITOL DID SO BECAUSE HE TOLD THEM. HE ALONE IS RESPONSIBLE. The levels of self-gaslighting MAGAs have to subject themselves to in order to believe this stuff is astounding. Epps is one of your own MAGA scum, who turned rat to save his own hide after the fact and now has to live in hiding from his former scumbag friends. Edited March 18, 2023 by BeaverFever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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