PIK Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Just a quick question. Now I don't know how many people here follow it. But with money being given out, wasted ,stolen by govs, especially this one. Would it hurt to give the league 10 - 15 mil a yr for 5 yrs. Creates jobs, and other benefits and its a old canadian institution ? Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 TBH I think the NFL probably dumps money into the CFL, just to keep it going as a feeder league to develop young players. Developing guys like Warren Moon and Doug Flutie is worth a few million to them. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 So we waste more money because we're already wasting money? Is that the logic? The CFL is dying because folks generally prefer US-style football and the ones who grew up liking and preferring our brand are aging out. 10-15 mil isn't going to fix that. Nobody really cares about in Ontario, but I can understand why folks in the Prairies might lament its wallowing when it's the only game in down. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 33 minutes ago, Moonbox said: So we waste more money because we're already wasting money? Is that the logic? The CFL is dying because folks generally prefer US-style football and the ones who grew up liking and preferring our brand are aging out. 10-15 mil isn't going to fix that. Nobody really cares about in Ontario, but I can understand why folks in the Prairies might lament its wallowing when it's the only game in down. Can you cite that claim? I think only the Toronto team isn't supported properly. Lots of sports are subsidized. Hockey much Federal Money was given to Hockey Canada before we found out they had a Sexual Assault Legal Slush fund? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Toronto and Montreal are both struggling. That Canada's largest markets can't properly support CFL teams is telling. I don't really know what you want me to cite, specifically, but outside of the West/Prairies, the NFL is vastly more popular than the CFL. Nobody watches it on TV, and it's almost entirely a ticket-driven business. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Why should the government support sports if people don't support it. That means people don't care about it. I definitely don't care about the CFL. 2 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDog Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Tough one for me. Longtime fan. I’ve noted the empty stadiums. Ottawa is flooding the 3rd world who aren’t fans. it’s not just the CFL. Canada is being ruined Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUI_Offender Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 I lnow this is an old post, but Winnipeg is leading Saskatchewan 23-21 with 8 minutes left in the Banjo Bowl game. LETS GO BOMBERS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted September 8 Report Share Posted September 8 On 2/16/2023 at 8:11 AM, Moonbox said: The CFL is dying because folks generally prefer US-style football Your bad taste is excused. Slow. plodding and predictable isn't what makes a "game". CFL is far more entertaining. And every game not on CBC is another travesty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted September 8 Author Report Share Posted September 8 Great crowd in edm tonight. 1 Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted September 8 Author Report Share Posted September 8 The last 2 weeks ,att has been a lot better. 1 Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted September 8 Report Share Posted September 8 My Argos 😞 lost by a LOT to Ottawa last night Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 8 Report Share Posted September 8 the federal government is handing out money to practically any cause to buy votes so I can't come up with any reason why the CFL should not be one of those vote buying causes the problem is rather that Canada is actually broke not even borrowing anymore, but rather printing money to pay these bills and that will come crashing down upon all our heads eventually in fact that process has already begun, in the throes of this contemporary inflation debt crisis but whatever, let it burn since learning the hard way is the only way to learn in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCanuck89 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 On 2/15/2023 at 7:54 PM, PIK said: Just a quick question. Now I don't know how many people here follow it. But with money being given out, wasted ,stolen by govs, especially this one. Would it hurt to give the league 10 - 15 mil a yr for 5 yrs. Creates jobs, and other benefits and its a old canadian institution ? This is no different than state governments, giving money to build stadiums. On 2/16/2023 at 1:42 PM, Moonbox said: Toronto and Montreal are both struggling. That Canada's largest markets can't properly support CFL teams is telling. I don't really know what you want me to cite, specifically, but outside of the West/Prairies, the NFL is vastly more popular than the CFL. Nobody watches it on TV, and it's almost entirely a ticket-driven business. Montreal isn't struggling. Newer owner, fans returning after losing years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 2 minutes ago, CrazyCanuck89 said: Montreal isn't struggling. Newer owner, fans returning after losing years. My comment was from a year ago, when they had the second-lowest attendance in the CFL behind Toronto. If the CFL isn't struggling, then they don't need federal money though, do they? Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 CFL is better football than NFL, hands down. The problems with CFL are: 1) The masses don’t want Canada-only entertainment. We are a cultural colony of the US and if Americans don’t acknowledge it, if it’s not mentioned in Hollywood movies or American pop music, people will simply think it’s inferior. Here in Toronto people actually bully the CFL, they go out of their way to unfairly make fun of it because they want to be a “world class” city with “big league” (ie American) teams. They could care less about the quality of the game itself. 2) As already mentioned the league still makes a disproportionate amount of its money through ticket sales which limits it ability to invest in itself and appeal thenou 3)The CFL might be the real No Fun League. One of the things my die-hard NFL fan friends like most is the tailgating. Many/most (all?) CFL stadiums prohibit this Dumb rules like salary caps and the “Ricky Williams rule” (which prohibits signing suspended NFL players) kill opportunities to attract talent and public interest. 3)Lack of concessions: a lot of stadiums still have little to offer beyond the old “cold hot dogs, warm beer and stale popcorn” models. Yeah now there’s dried out heat lamp pizza and hockey puck hamburgers that are equally unappetizing, but people expect quality options these day especially in Toronto where Raptors Leafs and Jays have so much to offer. 4) Some stadiums have nowhere to go if want to get out of your seat. These days many people don’t want to sit and watch sports for 3 hours straight they want to walk around maybe mingle with people. Some stadiums don’t have bars or other hangout places where you can still watch the game amd even the merchandise shops are tiny and terrible. It all feels like the teams and league are run by unimaginative small-time, small-town folk who are out of touch with what the public really wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 On 9/11/2024 at 10:59 PM, BeaverFever said: CFL is better football than NFL, hands down. The problems with CFL are: That's really a matter of perspective. Football is my favorite sport to watch, but the CFL is pretty much unwatchable for me. The rules are a problem for many (particularly 3 downs, the low-score games, the bigger field and the punting), and there is a chasm of talent between the NFL and the CFL. The contrast is stark, but even if the NFL didn't exist I'm not sure I would be interested in the CFL. 🤷♂️ I've lived and worked in Toronto (45 minutes away now) and I never saw anyone making fun of it or bullying it. It was just completely irrelevant - something nobody even mentions or thinks about. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 The rules of CFL are to difficult for you? FFS you should've known them when you were 7. Did you and your friends play scrub football and need 4 damn downs or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 On 9/13/2024 at 4:09 PM, herbie said: The rules of CFL are to difficult for you? FFS you should've known them when you were 7. Where did I say that? 😆 The problem with Punt-FL rules is that they're boring, not "too difficult". 2-and-out, 2-and-out, 2-and-out... 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted September 17 Author Report Share Posted September 17 People love rich athletes to cheer for and everything American. Sad. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 On 9/13/2024 at 12:50 PM, Moonbox said: That's really a matter of perspective. Football is my favorite sport to watch, but the CFL is pretty much unwatchable for me. The rules are a problem for many (particularly 3 downs, the low-score games, the bigger field and the punting), and there is a chasm of talent between the NFL and the CFL. The contrast is stark, but even if the NFL didn't exist I'm not sure I would be interested in the CFL. 🤷♂️ I've lived and worked in Toronto (45 minutes away now) and I never saw anyone making fun of it or bullying it. It was just completely irrelevant - something nobody even mentions or thinks about. Average home score in CFL 26.6. Average away score 24 Average home score in NFL 23.2. Average away score 20.9 https://cleanuphitter.com/cfl/stats/cfl_common_scores.php While there is a difference in talent, I prefer the CFL . They really are different games, like Rugby Union and Rugby League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 1 hour ago, Aristides said: Average home score in CFL 26.6. Average away score 24 Average home score in NFL 23.2. Average away score 20.9 https://cleanuphitter.com/cfl/stats/cfl_common_scores.php Fair enough. Probably some confirmation bias on my part. 1 hour ago, Aristides said: While there is a difference in talent, I prefer the CFL . They really are different games, like Rugby Union and Rugby League. Like I said, it's a matter of perspective. I don't have any opinion about the CFL other than I find it less entertaining, as do most of the football fans in Canada outside of the Prairies. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 On 2/15/2023 at 5:04 PM, WestCanMan said: TBH I think the NFL probably dumps money into the CFL, just to keep it going as a feeder league to develop young players. Developing guys like Warren Moon and Doug Flutie is worth a few million to them. Very well could be. Myself, i prefer to watch NFL because they have four downs rather than just three downs like they do in Canada. For me having four downs makes the game a little more interesting and exciting for me to watch. I would like to see the CFL try a year using four downs. Whether or not that would make more Canadians want to watch the game, who knows, but it would be worth it to give it a shot. It is too bad that Canada does not have an NFL team. Most likely it would be Toronto who would be able to enter the NFL as they have the population. They use to even have some NFL games in Toronto where they did bring up Buffalo to play a few games in Toronto. The stadium was packed. NFL is big business in Canada. What say you? On 2/15/2023 at 4:54 PM, PIK said: Just a quick question. Now I don't know how many people here follow it. But with money being given out, wasted ,stolen by govs, especially this one. Would it hurt to give the league 10 - 15 mil a yr for 5 yrs. Creates jobs, and other benefits and its a old canadian institution ? I would like to see the CFL try a season with using four downs instead of three. I prefer to watch the NFL for that one reason only. For me, four downs makes the game a little more exciting. Just saying. What say you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 4 hours ago, Moonbox said: Where did I say that? 😆 The problem with Punt-FL rules is that they're boring, not "too difficult". 2-and-out, 2-and-out, 2-and-out... The CFL should try a season of four downs. I enjoy watching the NFL just for that reason alone. What say you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 9 minutes ago, taxme said: The CFL should try a season of four downs. I enjoy watching the NFL just for that reason alone. What say you? It's the main reason I don't like the CFL, but with the wider fields and the bigger endzones, I'm not sure how great it would be. Either way, I'll be probably still be watching the NFL. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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