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On 2/14/2023 at 7:17 PM, blackbird said:

This presentation by Dennis Prager, one of America's most popular conservative speakers, tells how leftism is very destructive and destroying western civilization.  He explains why conservatives in general are wrongly focused on opposing individuals rather than the real foe, which is leftism.

I will add a few comments to this O.P. because some have complained the O.P. lacked substance.

Prager pointed out a number of things.  

He mentioned the Pope.  He has a lot of respect for Catholics, but said the Pope is not a Catholic.  The Pope came from South America and is more of a leftist.  There are a lot of leftists in South America.  That's why they have struggled with Communist revolutionaries and have had a lot of trouble in places like El Salvador, Venezuela, and other places.  This could explain why latin America has struggled with poverty.  It is not rich even though it has many natural resources.  He says latin America is a screwed up system because of leftism.

He says the Protestant church is failing because of leftism.  He said an American Presbyterian denomination singled out Israel for condemnation.  The world is full of evil, yet they single out Israel.  Makes no sense.  But that is what leftism does.  I know for a fact leftism has crept into many denominations.  The Jesuits could be behind some of this as well.  After all, the Pope is a Jesuit and a leftist.  He points out liberal Christians have also caved in to the leftists and go along with it.

He also talks about how he grew up as an Orthodox Jew.  He even wrote books about it.  But he left the Orthodox part because he says they have abandoned some basic principles.  They don't stand up against leftism even though it is ruining civilization.  He says the Orthodox don't stand up to same-sex marriage.  They don't fight the fight.  He says he is very tolerant of gays and says they are part of his life and family.  He makes it clear he is opposed to redefining marriage.  He says you have to have compassion in the macro and standard in the micro.  In other words you can be compassionate while standing up for certain principles.  Leftism confuses this and accuses anyone who has any kind of principles that defend the historic and biblical family structure of being bigots or racist and lacking compassion.  That is one of the problems in society today.  There is no distinction in leftism.

 

 

 

 

 

Reports of the death of Western culture have been greatly exaggerated. 

 

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This is along the lines of what I wrote earlier, though better expressed, I think (well, Jamie Sarkonak gets paid for that). 

 

National identity depends on having a shared set of values, often represented in our cultural products. These cultural products include the obvious: our songs, our statues and our broadcast media — and the less obvious: the way we name roads, bridges and city wards. The great thing about Canadian national identity is that it’s (traditionally) based on the liberal democratic tradition, where all citizens are equal before the law regardless of background.

There is a growing movement to strip the liberal democratic — and necessarily colonial — aspect from our shared national identity. It’s called “decolonization.” It follows an easy formula. First, advocates stigmatize the symbols of our shared Canadian heritage, alienating the population from the many good things that the country has accomplished. Second, advocates rewrite and tear down the cultural products that we use to remember our shared heritage. Third, they are often replaced by something Indigenous.

You saw this happen at the NBA All-Star Game in Salt Lake City on Sunday; anthem singer Jully Black changed the lyrics of “O Canada” from “Our home and native land,” to “Our home on native land.” The change implies that Canada is somehow illegitimate.

Because decolonization is so trendy right now, you can bet that a certain number of people will sing it and push for a formal change in the name of reconciliation. While there is a shameful place in Canadian history where Indigenous children were separated from their families to force cultural conformity, the solution is not to “overcorrect” by renaming cultural products and rewriting history. The solution is to make sure Indigenous communities can sustain themselves economically and cultivate even more culture to add to Canadian identity — without tearing down the heritage we have already.

The change to “O Canada” at the NBA All-Star game is the latest in a long line of decolonization events to hit Canadian culture.

Perhaps the most obvious acts of decolonization is outright damage to art. A statue of Canada’s then sitting monarch, Queen Elizabeth II, was toppled in Winnipeg in July 2021 by activists. In the same protest, a statue of Queen Victoria was defaced, torn down, and beheaded. It would have cost $500,000 to repair the latter, so the Manitoba government shrugged its shoulders and decided not to replace it. No charges were laid, despite the video evidence of the event and the police presence.

Activists are just as successful at effecting change by achieving a critical mass at museums and galleries, and changing curatorial policy to fit a radical decolonial agenda — something that is happening everywhere, from the National Gallery of Canada to the national museum association.

Decolonization can also happen in municipal politics. Take Edmonton, for example. Prior to the fall of 2021, the city wards were numbered (there was a city councillor for Ward 3, Ward 2, and so on). In September 2021, race-neutral numbers were exchanged for Indigenous words and group names. Now, Edmonton’s city ridings include Ward Métis, Ward tastawiyiniwak (Cree for “LGBTQ2S+ community”), and Ward Ipiihkoohkanipiaohtsi (a Blackfoot term pertaining to bison harvest grounds). One city councillor asked for the old numbers to be kept in brackets at the end of the new ward names, but was voted down. Now, many Edmontonians live in wards they can’t yet pronounce — as if people weren’t alienated from municipal politics enough.

British Columbia has similar disregard for legibility and official language use. An elementary school named after Sir Matthew Begbie — where students are just starting to learn English — was renamed to “wək̓ʷan̓əs tə syaqʷəm.”

In April 2022, the government of Prince Edward Island asked the federal government to change the name of the Confederation Bridge to “Epekwitk Crossing.” “Confederation Bridge” got its name because it was built to fulfil the constitutional promise made by the Canadian government to build and maintain a connection to P.E.I. upon joining as a province. The bridge itself is one of Canada’s greatest engineering achievements — and a symbol of the Canadian Constitution. It literally unites an isolated province with the rest of Canada. Epekwitk is Mi’kmaq for “something lying on the water.” The change would pave over our constitutional history

Other significant infrastructure is getting the decolonization treatment, too. The Sir John A. Macdonald Parkway will soon get an Indigenous name, likely to be announced in June. Sign changes are planned for fall this year.

Finally, you see decolonization being worked into the polite society conventions of public institutions. Public servants often sign off with a land acknowledgement in email signatures, giving oxygen to the idea that Canada is an illegitimate state. Public meetings and job descriptions often start off with a land acknowledgement, too. They’re even featured on university syllabi.

Canada’s strength came from having a strong sense of nationality surrounding our founding principles: liberal democracy and allegiance to the Crown. Anyone who buys into those positions, no matter how far removed from Britain, has a place in Canada. The decolonization movement asks us to reject this.

Decolonization seeks to put ethnicity before national identity; on top of building new Indigenous cultural products (a good thing), it asks the nation to declare itself illegitimate by tearing down and re-labelling old cultural products (a bad thing). O Canada was just the latest example, but there will be more to come.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/the-counterproductive-decolonizing-of-the-national-anthem

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So the writer doesn't like these things.  So ?  

One of our values is that we come to the table and deal with each other.

1/3 of BC residents are in favour of changing the name of the province and that number grows as the population ages.

https://www.abbynews.com/news/1-3-british-columbians-want-to-rename-province-to-recognize-indigenous-heritage-poll/

What do you want to do about that ?   There's nothing enshrined in the Charter of Rights that says you get to preserve the names of Canadian institutions and landmarks.

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2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

So the writer doesn't like these things.  So ?  

One of our values is that we come to the table and deal with each other.

1/3 of BC residents are in favour of changing the name of the province and that number grows as the population ages.

https://www.abbynews.com/news/1-3-british-columbians-want-to-rename-province-to-recognize-indigenous-heritage-poll/

What do you want to do about that ?   There's nothing enshrined in the Charter of Rights that says you get to preserve the names of Canadian institutions and landmarks.

British West Canada?  I'd be okay with that.

As long as they don't call it Cascadia...

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16 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

So the writer doesn't like these things.  So ?  

One of our values is that we come to the table and deal with each other.

1/3 of BC residents are in favour of changing the name of the province and that number grows as the population ages.

https://www.abbynews.com/news/1-3-british-columbians-want-to-rename-province-to-recognize-indigenous-heritage-poll/

What do you want to do about that ?   There's nothing enshrined in the Charter of Rights that says you get to preserve the names of Canadian institutions and landmarks.

Give the native red power radicals and their woke supporters a piece of land they can call their own country and put them there. People make their choice which side they want to be part of and must swear an oath of allegiance and stop this woke nonsense.   No crossing the border.   End of story.

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13 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

British West Canada?  I'd be okay with that.

As long as they don't call it Cascadia...

Illahee Chuk 

It's a compromise because (bc) it's a derivation that the peoples who traded with each other all used that.

People explode their heads when you suggest little things like that, but it's a good idea to start small with these changes so they'll be ready for the big ones...

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On 2/25/2023 at 10:02 PM, Iceni warrior said:

Reports of the death of Western culture have been greatly exaggerated. 

 

Western culture is dying a slow death.  We are being taken over by authoritarian globalists.  Just look at the mess with Canada's open borders and migrants pouring in.  Liberals don't care because they believe Canada is a post-national state anyway.  Their allegiance is to globalist government.

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Just now, Michael Hardner said:

Illahee Chuk 

It's a compromise because (bc) it's a derivation that the peoples who traded with each other all used that.

People explode their heads when you suggest little things like that, but it's a good idea to start small with these changes so they'll be ready for the big ones...

Sounds like it should be in central Alberta.

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1 minute ago, blackbird said:

Western culture is dying a slow death.  We are being taken over by authoritarian globalists.  Just look at the mess with Canada's open borders and migrants pouring in.  Liberals don't care because they believe Canada is a post-national state anyway.  Their allegiance is to globalist government.

Everything changes, all the time.  Eventually the universe will undergo heat death and none of it will matter.

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40 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Everything changes, all the time.  Eventually the universe will undergo heat death and none of it will matter.

We are heading for a one-world order globalist government of the Anti-Christ.  Watch the video on the link I posted just above.  Many people in Europe naively believe a globalist government will solve the world's problems.  The video reveals many of the world leaders and secret societies who have supported such a system including the Pope, and some American Presidents.  The Pope is one of the most powerful political leaders in the world, and he supports Socialism, open borders, and one-world government.

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Blackbird has said the following about Canada:

Canada is very messed up with a leftist mindset.
Canada is more of an authoritarian state with less freedom than America.
Canada is a mish mash of beliefs and conflicting ideologies
Canada is broken. 
I would not say Canada is a civilized country

Why exactly they care about preserving it as it is now is anyone's guess since they don't seem to like the place.

 

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Just now, blackbird said:

We are heading for a one-world order globalist government of the Anti-Christ.  Watch the video on the link I posted just above.  Many people in Europe naively believe a globalist government will solve the world's problems.  The video reveals many of the world leaders and secret societies who have supported such a system including the Pope, and some American Presidents.  

Good.  Should keep us occupied until the heat death.

What do you care anyway?  This is but an infinitesimally small blip on your way to eternal happiness.  Shrug it off.

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3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

We are heading for a one-world order globalist government of the Anti-Christ.   

You are reading too many biblical comic books.  You need to contextualize your fanaticism so that you can understand that your time is better spent on the pew than posting in here.

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16 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Brother @blackbird, this is embarrassing, frankly. Are you for real? Do you believe that video? 

You are pharisee through and through, that's what Jesus would have said it if we go by your theology. 

Jesus was on the left of communism, the way you are talking, you would have persecuted Jesus if the stories are correct from your New Testament. 

You want to do that, sure, I don't like socialism either, but don't act like you are the Good Christian, is not showing. It contradicts your theories. 

Many are called but few are chosen.  - Bible.  Many are on the road to hell.  The video gives the evidence with video of billionaires, former Presidents that support one-world government.  It can't be denied.  Believe what you wish, but the facts are there.  Trudeau and liberals are globalists.  Why do you think Canada's representatives on the U.N. and other world bodies are globalists?  Canada's deputy PM /Finance Minister attended the World Economic Forum.  Couldn't be must clearer than that.

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23 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Do you believe that video?

Of course.  It makes perfect sense and fits in with what the Bible says.  Since you have not watched it, how do you know whether it is true or not.  Making assumptions again I see

 

25 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Jesus was on the left of communism,

One of the most ridiculous comments you have made.  The Bible strongly opposes Communism and Socialism.  If you had read any of the articles which I posted parts of you would know that and wouldn't be bumbling along in the darkness with ridiculous ideas.

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4 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

You go on your narrow path, I go on my narrow path. This is the issue with you religious fanatics, you complain that society doesn't pay attention to you, here I am engaging with you, and when everything fails and you can not hold to a debate: 

That's hilarious.  You rarely comment on the actual subject, but rather attack the poster.  I simply respond to your nonsense.

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21 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

You don't expect me to agree that 1 single flawed book has the answers to life in 2023. That will be intellectually dishonest out of me, to lower my discussion, just to accommodate you. 

I never said you should do anything to accommodate me.  I simply state the truth as I believe it.  You refused to accept it.  That's entirely your choice.  But I would ask then what is your guide or foundation for thinking and living?  The world has suffered wars, revolutions, crime, divisions, since the beginning.  The 20th century which you might say is the modern age had the worst, most devastating wars in history.  Communist revolutions in the 20th century killed 100 million people.   Fascism killed tens of millions of people in Europe.  Yet you say the Bible is a flawed book in 2023.  What great wisdom has the world received in the 20th century or now in 2023 that will make it a better place pray tell?  What better source of wisdom and truth has suddenly appeared that is better than the Bible?  You must be living in some alt reality if you think the world is any better in 2023 than it was in 1917 or 1939 when the world wars started.

"The Bible is unique! It is not enough to say that it is a unique Book, for it is a collection of sixty-six ancient Books. Moreover, this unique collection of Books is bound together by a central theme and a unity of purpose which makes the books into One Book.

This Book tells of the ways in which God revealed Himself to mankind over a period of several thousand years. This account of the ways in which God has intervened in human history provides us with a description of the nature and the attributes of God completely different from the concept of God found anywhere else in the entire world of literature. The Bible is history, but history strikingly different from ordinary history. Secular history tells of the rise and fall of nations, of great wars and battles, and of the ways in which men and nations have affected the peoples of surrounding territories. But the Bible goes further than that. The Bible is an interpretation of history, showing how men (as individuals and as nations) have either been blessed or punished by God for their attitude to Him and His holy laws. It is this unique explanation of the moral and spiritual factors behind the historical narrative, which makes the Bible so relevant to us today."

1. The Authority of the Bible | Bible.org

What wisdom does the modern world have that doesn't come from the Bible or is better than the Bible?  What makes you think the ancient people who wrote the Bible under the inspiration of God were wrong?

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

the arguments that me and you will continue to have is when you continue to preach it as the only "Truth". 

Because it is the only source of truth.  You have not given any other source so I must assume you have nothing.  Truth does not fall from the sky, or in some book that someone wrote unless it originates from the Bible.  When I am talking about truth, I am talking specifically about moral truth and moral history of mankind, and how God created mankind and eternal truths about mankind.  These are things that the Bible is the authority on.  

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19 minutes ago, blackbird said:

When I am talking about truth, I am talking specifically about moral truth and moral history of mankind, and how God created mankind and eternal truths about mankind.  These are things that the Bible is the authority on.  

No, those are things that you've decided the Bible is "the authority on".  That's your belief.  Your religious beliefs are your subjective truths, but they are not facts.    

 

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