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11 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

"let me remind you that Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice

and also let me remind you that moderation in the defense of justice is no virtue"

It's also about fairness, and sometimes compromise. If my liberty takes away some of your liberty, that's where the problem begins.

"Revenge is a dish best served cold." -Lt. Worf, son of Mogh

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2 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

It's also about fairness, and sometimes compromise. If my liberty takes away some of your liberty, that's where the problem begins.

no mercy, no quarter, no succour

for the totalitarian enemies who now seek to take our liberties

granted by the fallen

from Second Ypres to Mons

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
    The torch; be yours to hold it high.
    If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
        In Flanders fields.

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Leftism has brought us the despicable bail and parole system which has cost innocent police officers and other people their lives.  Remember the police officer in Ontario who was killed in the line of duty by a dangerous offender who was let out on bail.  And the twelve people on the Cree nation in Saskatchewan who were stabbed to death by a dangerous offender who was let out on parole.

Who is being held responsible for letting these people out?  One would think those who allowed this to happen or were directed to do so should bear some responsibility.  But we hear little of this.

This is an example of a dysfunctional justice system that is destroying our country.

"OTTAWA — Ontario Provincial Police Commissioner Thomas Carrique told MPs law enforcement officers “deserve to be safeguarded” against repeat violent offenders as he recommended reforms to Canada’s bail system."

Bail system in ‘desperate need’ of change, Ontario Provincial Police commissioner tells MPs (msn.com)

We hear little if anything at all about this on the liberal-controlled CBC and CTV, both leftist mouthpieces.

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Another example of how leftism is destroying western civilization.

"An Ontario school trustee has been barred from attending board meetings in part because she publicly questioned the district’s stated policy of accommodating a student’s decision to switch genders while keeping it a secret from their parents."

Ontario school trustee barred from meetings after questioning gender transition policy (msn.com)

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13 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Well i did put a major policies in there, i thought that would whittle the pickings down some or a lot...not that there is many to pick from. 

...And I'm pretty sure even you would not pick to many out of your provided list and boast about them as being major policies...

Why not?  Some of those were all major policies, with major consequences.  Those were (mostly) non-partisan issues too, that nobody wastes their breath complaining about.  

13 hours ago, Army Guy said:

And yes you can call him what ever you want, I did not say those words you did.

I know you didn't, but my point was that not absolutely everything he's done has been bad, no matter how much you dislike him.  

13 hours ago, Army Guy said:

But what has his party really done for the nation, it really was not a tough question.

It's a pointless question, and one you could have asked of Stephen Harper as well.  What did he really do for the nation?  

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14 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

It's true that I purposely changed my writing to match that of the new house style around here. 

Reworded, you're basically telling me "YOU STARTED IT!" ?

14 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

At least Exflyboy makes an intelligent point now and then, among the rhetoric.

Yes, he does, which is no doubt why you find him frustrating.  

14 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

You, not really.

Absolute bullshit

;) 

Coming from a guy who can't help but trip over his own contradictions and hypocrisy in the same thread, this gave me a good chuckle.  "Why are you attacking the poster?" he asks, before immediately attacking another poster.  

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On 2/15/2023 at 10:26 AM, blackbird said:

Nothing low effort about the O.P.  It is easy to watch a 45 minute video if one wants to know more detail about why leftism is bad and

No. Posting a video of any kind as a topic starter is problematic. Posting a 45-minute video is pointless under almost any circumstance. 

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You know what is destroying western society? When 'science' is reduced to this kind of utterly brainless political posturing. Western universities are graduating legions of sociologists, gender and racial studies "experts" while China churns out mathematicians and engineers.

The words “male” and “female” should be phased out in science because they reinforce ideas that sex is binary, scientists have suggested.

Researchers studying ecology and evolutionary biology should be encouraged to use terms such as “sperm-producing”, “egg-producing” or “XY/XX individual” to avoid “emphasising hetero-normative views”, experts say.

https://nationalpost.com/news/females-no-they-are-called-egg-producers-scientists

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2 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

You know what is destroying western society? When 'science' is reduced to this kind of utterly brainless political posturing.

The words “male” and “female” should be phased out in science because they reinforce ideas that sex is binary, scientists have suggested.

Researchers studying ecology and evolutionary biology should be encouraged to use terms such as “sperm-producing”, “egg-producing” or “XY/XX individual” to avoid “emphasising hetero-normative views”, experts say.

https://nationalpost.com/news/females-no-they-are-called-egg-producers-scientists

Some sane scientists are pushing back a little...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/15/lll-use-every-one-richard-dawkins-says-wades-woke-science-words/

“The only possible response is contemptuous ridicule,” he told The Telegraph. “I shall continue to use every one of the prohibited words. I am a professional user of the English language. It is my native language. 

“I am not going to be told by some teenage version of Mrs Grundy which words of my native language I may or may not use.”

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2 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

 

“I am not going to be told by some teenage version of Mrs Grundy which words of my native language I may or may not use.”

If only it was just teenagers and not academics and administrators. 

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1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

Reworded, you're basically telling me "YOU STARTED IT!" ?

Yes, he does, which is no doubt why you find him frustrating.  

Coming from a guy who can't help but trip over his own contradictions and hypocrisy in the same thread, this gave me a good chuckle.  "Why are you attacking the poster?" he asks, before immediately attacking another poster.  

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We do allow a certain leverage, its not a gulag. But especially now that there is no moderator, it allows certain posters to unleash they ad hominem based style. Shit posters, like you.

If that's the way it is now, fine. When in Rome, as they say.

Now fook off.

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I think Dawkin's phrase there:

“The only possible response is contemptuous ridicule"

would make a great T-Shirt.

Better than all those dumb T-Shirts internet ads seem to be flooded with these days.

 

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56 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

We do allow a certain leverage, its not a gulag. But especially now that there is no moderator, it allows certain posters to unleash they ad hominem based style. Shit posters, like you.

He says, as he throws shit everywhere and engages in ad-hominem.  

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1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

No. Posting a video of any kind as a topic starter is problematic. Posting a 45-minute video is pointless under almost any circumstance. 

Why?   We can post links to articles and we can post links to videos.  So why is it problematic?   I also added a lot of comments to it.  Nobody is forced to watch a video link.  It is there and is a free choice.  Why try to control what other people post?

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Leftism as a political ideology is evil.  That does not mean everyone who follows it or supports it in some fashion is evil.  It just means the leftism belief in a general sense is evil.  Why?  Because it advances and supports things that are contrary to Biblical morality.  It promotes Socialism or state control of society and the elimination of individual freedom.  That is very evil.  The Bible clearly teaches "thou shalt not steal".  Some think that it doesn't apply to the state if the state does it.  Anyone who does not recognize that needs to give their head a shake.  I have a brother that somehow thinks Socialism is benevolent and is love of neighbour. This is false.  The Bible teaches individual charity, not state-ordained redistribution of wealth.  Socialism destroys individual initiative and promotes laziness.  Why would someone work hard or show initiative in what they do if someone lazy or who doesn't work receives the same from the state?  Socialism is contrary to human nature.  This has been shown throughout history.  That is another reason leftism is destroying western civilization.

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3 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Why not?  Some of those were all major policies, with major consequences.  Those were (mostly) non-partisan issues too, that nobody wastes their breath complaining about.  

I know you didn't, but my point was that not absolutely everything he's done has been bad, no matter how much you dislike him.  

It's a pointless question, and one you could have asked of Stephen Harper as well.  What did he really do for the nation?  

To be honest you gave me 4 suggestions , and all of them would be a stretch to be called major improvements to the nation...

The question was to state 10 major polices or bills that have benefited Canada in a major way in the last 8 plus years of the liberal rule. And if you want to discuss that fine, if not maybe you should pass.  ..It should be easy for a die hard liberal, or anyone who chose to answer the question... I mean the entire post is about how the left is destroying the western civilization, i thought this would give them a chance to prove other wise. 

I did not say everything he has done is bad, and i have given him kudos on things i thought were good, and no i do not like the man or his policies, that does not mean i can not remark on issues he has done or has not done. 

Is it a pointless question, I don't think so, if they voted liberal it should be easy, and in the process educate the rest of us, on things we may have forgotten, or maybe highlight the problem that they really did not do much for the country, in the last 8 plus years, 

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7 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

To be honest you gave me 4 suggestions , and all of them would be a stretch to be called major improvements to the nation...

As I said, that's a matter of perspective.  I don't know what you figure cuts it as "major improvement", but I'd love to hear you try to explain.  

7 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

The question was to state 10 major polices or bills that have benefited Canada in a major way in the last 8 plus years of the liberal rule.

An arbitrary number that you pulled out of nowhere.  Go find me 10 "major policies" (whatever that means) that any Prime Minister accomplished, ever.   

7 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

I mean the entire post is about how the left is destroying the western civilization, i thought this would give them a chance to prove other wise. 

Yes, the entire post is hysterical, hyperbolic nonsense - the latest of a long series of spam-posts that this clown lobs onto the forum on an almost daily basis. 

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4 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

As I said, that's a matter of perspective.  I don't know what you figure cuts it as "major improvement", but I'd love to hear you try to explain.  

An arbitrary number that you pulled out of nowhere.  Go find me 10 "major policies" (whatever that means) that any Prime Minister accomplished, ever.   

Yes, the entire post is hysterical, hyperbolic nonsense - the latest of a long series of spam-posts that this clown lobs onto the forum on an almost daily basis. 

I'm guessing it is to hard of a question, I'm not expecting you to do anything, ..so I'll move on. 

And yet here you are again... you can't help yourself...

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2 hours ago, Army Guy said:

I'm guessing it is to hard of a question, I'm not expecting you to do anything, ..so I'll move on. 

It's too dumb of a question.  I explained why, gave you a chance to clarify, and instead you're "moving on".  Unsurprising.  

2 hours ago, Army Guy said:

And yet here you are again... you can't help yourself...

and here you are again, coming to the defense of another donkey spam-thread.  You can't help yourself...?

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3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

No. Posting a video of any kind as a topic starter is problematic. Posting a 45-minute video is pointless under almost any circumstance. 

Not to mention the other millions of pointless minutes devoted to the topic around the planet and through the ages.

We get it.

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2 hours ago, blackbird said:

Why?   We can post links to articles and we can post links to videos.  So why is it problematic?   I also added a lot of comments to it.  Nobody is forced to watch a video link.  It is there and is a free choice.  Why try to control what other people post?

People come here largely for entertainment. No one is going to invest the better part of an hour in watching some video unless it's by Bill Burr or Jim Jeffries. And I highly doubt your video on the evil Left is going to be as entertaining as either of those two. If I want to watch videos to teach me about things I'll select my own from people I know will be intelligent and honest. 

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