Democrats now attacking SUBURBS

[reason10]

You couldn't possibly make this shit up.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/next-dems-hit-list-suburbs

Next on Dems' hit list: The suburbs

If you've worked hard to afford a suburban home, you're under attack

If you've worked hard to afford a suburban house with a patch of lawn where your kids can play, you're under attack.

The Biden administration and Democrats in New York, Connecticut and other states are fighting local zoning laws in order to build high-rise apartment buildings with "affordable" units in tree-lined, single-family neighborhoods. All in the name of equity, meaning everyone can live in a tranquil suburb, whether they've earned the money to pay for it or not.

The Biden administration announced Jan. 19 that it will require all towns across the U.S. to submit "Equity Plans" showing how they will make it possible for low-income people to live there by providing affordable housing, transportation and other resources.

A few discussion points, (for those here without the extra chromosome.)

1. High rise apartments in suburbs? Gee. I lived in Orlando for about 16 years and that dumbass practice led to the most horrific traffic problems of all time. If the low income scumbags don't have to pay for an apartment, YOU KNOW they are going to buy cars. So those nice, easy to drive highways are going to become clogged with traffic and life will be hell.

2. When you bring in low income welfare bums, you don't get a tranquil suburb. You get gangs, drug sales, drive by shootings, muggings, home invasions.

3. And of course, the liberals had referred to suburbs DECADES AGO as WHITE FLIGHT. I had to sit through a couple of Sociology classes and put up with that racist shit. So NOW the goose steppers get to correct WHITE FLIGHT.

 

ANOTHER reason why correct vote counting and enforcing voter laws is important. BIDEN DID NOT WIN THE FCKKKKKKKKING ELECTION AND YOU ALL KNOW IT.

And he's bringing his Nazi crap to YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

And you goose steppers got so mad when Florida Governor DeSantis shipped a bunch of Unelected Joe's ILLEGAL ALIENS to Martha's Vineyard.  Get ready for this bullshit on a national scale.

 

[Michael Hardner]

The scare mongering continues to increase in volume and weirdness...

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, reason10 said:

You couldn't possibly make this shit up.

But YOU DID.

 

[West]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

But YOU DID.

 

Bigot

[reason10]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

But YOU DID.

 

It was reported on FOX FCKING NEWS, you cretin.

It was not made up. The Unelected Joe regime is looking to continue the DEMOCRAT RACISM with their version of reversing WHITE FLIGHT, (a RACIST term obviously coined by liberals.)

You goose steppers are so predictable.

[reason10]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

The scare mongering continues to increase in volume and weirdness...

It SHOULD scare decent people, those who waited until they had jobs and got married before filling the house full of kids. It SHOULD scare those decent people OF ALL COLORS, that those safe suburbs they had scrimped and saved and worked their asses off for, would soon be invaded by a horde of inner city welfare cheating criminals.

Unelected Joe's ENTIRE faux presidency should scare ANYONE who has a brain.

[reason10]

A little after Hurricane Charley, several small towns in its wake were severely damaged, to the point where some local entrepreneur/humanitarian donated his land (next to the airport) and FEMA brought in over 100 mobile homes, to help house those whose homes were either destroyed or would take a long time to repair, (and those were mostly in the ghetto areas)

Locals called that place FEMA CITY.

And wouldn't you know it,  the people who moved into those trailers showed their appreciation for those FREE homes by turning that area into a violent, drug running, hell hole.

And that was in the state of Florida, which has the best economy, the best schools and the safest streets.

Just because you bring animals to the suburbs and give them FREE lodging doesn't mean they are going to change into something other than animals.

(On the other hand, maybe Unelected Joe might consider doing this in Martha's Vineyard. Maybe some eminent domain seizures of a lot of that surplus property to build those high rises on. Maybe the Obamas would have to share their TAXPAYER FINANCED property with every scumbag in history.)

 

[Boges]

It's called Densification. With environmental concerns and issues with housing capacity, growing up and now out is preferable. 

As Cities become increasingly more unaffordable, people look to move out to the suburbs. 

That's happening in Canada as much as it is in the US. 

And Nimby's who bought their home for $25 fight against it. They're the problem. 

[robosmith]

18 minutes ago, reason10 said:

It was reported on FOX FCKING NEWS, you cretin.

It was not made up. The Unelected Joe regime is looking to continue the DEMOCRAT RACISM with their version of reversing WHITE FLIGHT, (a RACIST term obviously coined by liberals.)

You goose steppers are so predictable.

You posted A LOT MORE than is in your FOX LIES cite. 

Likely BOTH of you made it up. LMAO

[reason10]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You posted A LOT MORE than is in your FOX LIES cite. 

Likely BOTH of you made it up. LMAO

There is no such thing as a Fox LIes site. Fox gives FACTS, AND

If you don't like it, most of us don't give a rat's ASS.

Put your crack pipe down and grow a brain

[reason10]

8 minutes ago, Boges said:

It's called Densification. With environmental concerns and issues with housing capacity, growing up and now out is preferable. 

As Cities become increasingly more unaffordable, people look to move out to the suburbs. 

That's happening in Canada as much as it is in the US. 

And Nimby's who bought their home for $25 fight against it. They're the problem. 

People didn't move to the suburbs for the affordability. They moved to get away from the crime, the gangs, the drugs, the drive by shootings, the muggings.

It could be possible that someone bought a house in suburb for $25K, but you'd have to find a time machine and transport yourself back to the year 1957 to meet that person.

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39 minutes ago, reason10 said:

People didn't move to the suburbs for the affordability. They moved to get away from the crime, the gangs, the drugs, the drive by shootings, the muggings.

It could be possible that someone bought a house in suburb for $25K, but you'd have to find a time machine and transport yourself back to the year 1957 to meet that person.

Well that's now how urban development works. 

If a City is worth living in, the price of homes in the Suburbs will rise and unless you want a community where no one can afford to live there, you have to create more affordable housing like Condos and multi-unit dwellings. 

Many Boomers bought homes in Suburbs in the 80's for under 100k and are now sitting on Single family homes worth well over a million dollars, if not more. But they refuse to have any place built for their kids to live in.

No wonder younger generations hate Boomers. 

Edited February 13, 2023 by Boges

[Boges]

1 hour ago, reason10 said:

It SHOULD scare decent people, those who waited until they had jobs and got married before filling the house full of kids. It SHOULD scare those decent people OF ALL COLORS, that those safe suburbs they had scrimped and saved and worked their asses off for, would soon be invaded by a horde of inner city welfare cheating criminals.

Unelected Joe's ENTIRE faux presidency should scare ANYONE who has a brain.

The problem is that with current Real Estate, scrimping and saving isn't enough. Buying a Single-Family home is simply unaffordable for most families. The dream of home ownership is out of many people's reach because Real Estate has risen way higher than wages. 

You frame this as the rabble coming in from the city to ruin Suburbs. But that's not the case. It's young people just wanted to find a place to live. 

As someone who does have a home in a Suburb, you see this weird scenario where young people move in and their modest home is a huge investment, and you see old boomers living in their rundown homes they've owned since the 80's, but because of the nature of Real Estate, they're sitting on a Gold mine. 

It's pretty interesting. 

[Boges]

The biggest irony is that the only way many young families can afford to live in the Burbs is with help from mommy and daddy. So it's an example of how Generational Wealth perpetuates privilege from one generation to the next. 

[reason10]

The problem is that with current Real Estate, scrimping and saving isn't enough. Buying a Single-Family home is simply unaffordable for most families. The dream of home ownership is out of many people's reach because Real Estate has risen way higher than wages.

If most families couldn't afford a home, how did the prices get so high? ECONOMICS 101: It's called the LAW OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND. And if real estate has risen higher than wages, how come some many people own a home? Albeit, McDonalds wages (paid to cretins who drop out of school and make babies out of wedlock) won't even make a down payment on a third world mobile home. That was a CHOICE of the drop outs.

You frame this as the rabble coming in from the city to ruin Suburbs. But that's not the case. It's young people just wanted to find a place to live. 

Young drug dealers, gang members, single parent households, ALL the elements that made the urban region such a jungle. But you want to paint ALL young people with that single brush.  My young MARRIED daughter with a daughter of her own, worked very hard and got herself to a management position with a company she scaled the ladder in. She and her husband and my grand daughter are now living in a $300,000 house in the suburbs. 

YOUNG PEOPLE with jobs, (who are intelligent and upwardly mobile) can accomplish quite a bit.

As someone who does have a home in a Suburb, you see this weird scenario where young people move in and their modest home is a huge investment, and you see old boomers living in their rundown homes they've owned since the 80's, but because of the nature of Real Estate, they're sitting on a Gold mine. 

The whole concept of real estate is the fact that they're not making any more land. So it is valuable. Unlike other items, real estate will continue to increase in value.  That's the way it works.

If those animals in the ghettos hadn't trashed their environments, they would have no reason to get an unelected President to force suburbs to put them up for free, while they trash those suburbs.

It's all about CHOICES. And Unelected Joe has a record for punishing those who made responsible choices.

Edited February 14, 2023 by reason10

[reason10]

15 hours ago, Boges said:

The biggest irony is that the only way many young families can afford to live in the Burbs is with help from mommy and daddy. So it's an example of how Generational Wealth perpetuates privilege from one generation to the next. 

At some point, that generational wealth was EARNED.

What did those animals in the ghettos do to EARN their intrusion into decent neighborhoods?

Since when is EARNING somehow a privilege? Since when is a WORK ETHIC a privilege? Since when is bad choices an ENTITLEMENT on the EARNINGS of those who worked for it?

[reason10]

16 hours ago, Boges said:

Well that's now how urban development works. 

If a City is worth living in, the price of homes in the Suburbs will rise and unless you want a community where no one can afford to live there, you have to create more affordable housing like Condos and multi-unit dwellings. 

Many Boomers bought homes in Suburbs in the 80's for under 100k and are now sitting on Single family homes worth well over a million dollars, if not more. But they refuse to have any place built for their kids to live in.

No wonder younger generations hate Boomers. 

Unelected Joe's horrific idea has nothing to do with urban development. He's INVADING the neighborhoods of people who EARNED those homes. He wants to overturn the ZONING so decent home owners have to share crowded streets with all those vermin living rent free in high rise neo-ghettos.
Think those animals are going to change their behavior, their choices, just because a Nazi government gives them a home they DIDN'T EARN?

My daughters both have homes they are paying on. Maybe that's because both my daughters are MARRIED and have JOBS. There is no generational hate here. My daughters admire the work ethic I gave them. No baby boomer refused to build anything for them. One bought an existing $300,000 four bedroom home. The other had a house built on a lot.

And people who have EARNED the peace and tranquility of the suburbs (including the COST of transporting them to the city where they work) deserve better than to have all the ghetto crap forced on them by an unelected racist  pedophile president.

[Boges]

27 minutes ago, reason10 said:

If most families couldn't afford a home, how did the prices get so high? ECONOMICS 101: It's called the LAW OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND. And if real estate has risen higher than wages, how come some many people own a home? Albeit, McDonalds wages (paid to cretins who drop out of school and make babies out of wedlock) won't even make a down payment on a third world mobile home. That was a CHOICE of the drop outs. 

Populations grow and you have these laws that don't allow for housing to keep up with growth by forcing municipalities to only zone for Single Family Homes. So those homes go up in value. 

You also have investment from people who have no plan to live in the home that's increased value: Short-term rentals or foreign investment.

Canada has looked to tackle the latter recently. 

 

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Young drug dealers, gang members, single parent households, ALL the elements that made the urban region such a jungle. But you want to paint ALL young people with that single brush.  My young MARRIED daughter with a daughter of her own, worked very hard and got herself to a management position with a company she scaled the ladder in. She and her husband and my grand daughter are now living in a $300,000 house in the suburbs. 

You want to paint all people looking for Affordable housing as a Drug Dealers and Rabble. It's simply not the case. 

 

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YOUNG PEOPLE with jobs, (who are intelligent and upwardly mobile) can accomplish quite a bit.

See what's happening in San Fran? That's what happens when young intelligent people can't afford to live where they work. Would you prefer a homeless problem in Suburbs? 

 

Edited February 14, 2023 by Boges

[Boges]

17 minutes ago, reason10 said:

Unelected Joe's horrific idea has nothing to do with urban development. He's INVADING the neighborhoods of people who EARNED those homes. He wants to overturn the ZONING so decent home owners have to share crowded streets with all those vermin living rent free in high rise neo-ghettos.
Think those animals are going to change their behavior, their choices, just because a Nazi government gives them a home they DIDN'T EARN?

Joe does have a lot to say with how Federal Funds are spent. If towns don't want to play ball they can forfeit the funding. 

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My daughters both have homes they are paying on. Maybe that's because both my daughters are MARRIED and have JOBS. There is no generational hate here. My daughters admire the work ethic I gave them. No baby boomer refused to build anything for them. One bought an existing $300,000 four bedroom home. The other had a house built on a lot.

And people who have EARNED the peace and tranquility of the suburbs (including the COST of transporting them to the city where they work) deserve better than to have all the ghetto crap forced on them by an unelected racist  pedophile president.

 

$300,000 for a single family home? Must be a crappy town, or very rural. 

See young professional may be able to afford homes in small towns. But the types of jobs they needs to afford such homes are in the cities you decry.

So they're forced into long commutes that destroy their quality of life. 

Edited February 14, 2023 by Boges

[Boges]

10 minutes ago, reason10 said:

At some point, that generational wealth was EARNED.

What did those animals in the ghettos do to EARN their intrusion into decent neighborhoods?

Since when is EARNING somehow a privilege? Since when is a WORK ETHIC a privilege? Since when is bad choices an ENTITLEMENT on the EARNINGS of those who worked for it?

 

It's a lot easier to earn your home when your wages were in line with Real Estate. 

https://betterdwelling.com/canadian-real-estate-prices-are-growing-over-10x-the-rate-of-incomes/

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Canadian Real Estate Prices Are 18x Higher Than They Were In 1975

Canadian residential real estate prices have surged a mind-blowing amount recently. Home prices grew 5.7% in Q4 2021, bringing annual growth to 25.1% for 2021. Prices are up 36.1% since Q1 2020, highlighting recent growth. The already breakneck speed of 2020 was just a modest share of the climb over the past two years. Annual growth last hit this rate in the early 1980s during the last inflation crisis. Most Millennials, the oldest now over 40 years old, hadn’t even been born at this point.

 

 

[reason10]

Joe does have a lot to say with how Federal Funds are spent. If towns don't want to play ball they can forfeit the funding.

Funding is one thing. You need to read the article. Unelected Joe  wants to trash local zoning laws. And he was the first one to have a menstral period when Florida Governor DeSantis essentially did the same thing by shipping those illegal alien animals to Martha's Vineyard. And DeSantis didn't try to rewrite the Vineyard's zoning laws. All he tried to do was turn that playground for the uber rich liberal into a sanctuary city.

$300,000 for a single family home? Must be a crappy town, or very rural.

It's not in Broward County, so it isn't a crappy town. It is a small town. Also, she and her husband acquired the house several years ago. It's probably worth half a mil by now. But when she got it, the price tag was 300K.

See young professional may be able to afford homes in small towns. But the types of jobs they needs to afford such homes are in the cities you decry.

See, this is a major intellectual flaw with you (a) liberals or (b) VERY young people. You imagine that time and history began the moment you decided to pay attention. Real estate has ALWAYS been an exploding market. The conditions we see today existed in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and this century. There's nothing new about young professionals needing to move away from the shit and raise a family. Of course, in the past, the suburbs didn't have an unelected RACIST NAZI for a president, who wanted to trash their zoning laws just to appease THE SQUAD.

Great jobs, great opportunities can occur ANYWHERE. Entrepreneurs do not need large cities to hatch brilliant idea. Educated professionals do not need a large city to make a good living.

So they're forced into long commutes that destroy their quality of life. 

You're acting surprised about that. Long commutes have been a way of life ever since the first suburb. I make long commutes every day in one of my jobs. (I work two careers, one being in Florida public education.) It means you spend quality time in a car to get to work. It is a way of life.

There is no such thing as an ENTITLEMENT to the job you want within walking distance.

 

 

[reason10]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

 

It's a lot easier to earn your home when your wages were in line with Real Estate. 

https://betterdwelling.com/canadian-real-estate-prices-are-growing-over-10x-the-rate-of-incomes/

 

Well, there's a solution for that. Live within your means.

If you want more, work harder and smarter. Get a better job. Save. If necessary, attend a community college to get a more marketable skill. I used to teach English at two community colleges in Central Florida and most of my students were adults who were working their way through school for better careers.

Wages aren't an entitlement. They are the sum total of what you are worth. In fact, they are the MARKET STATEMENT of the value of your efforts.

[Boges]

5 minutes ago, reason10 said:

Well, there's a solution for that. Live within your means.

If you want more, work harder and smarter. Get a better job. Save. If necessary, attend a community college to get a more marketable skill. I used to teach English at two community colleges in Central Florida and most of my students were adults who were working their way through school for better careers.

Wages aren't an entitlement. They are the sum total of what you are worth. In fact, they are the MARKET STATEMENT of the value of your efforts.

So all these Boomers who had good jobs that required no higher education can buy homes inline with their wages but young people today can pound salt and commute 2 hours a day if they want to live in a single-family home. 

The price of higher education has also skyrocketed in recent years. 

[reason10]

Populations grow and you have these laws that don't allow for housing to keep up with growth by forcing municipalities to only zone for Single Family Homes. So those homes go up in value.

There is no point in laws having to do the job of the earners. Oh, and "forcing municipalities to only zone for single family homes?" You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. In pretty much EVER zoned town, there is zoning for commercial, for utilities, for single family homes, duplexes, even high rise condos. But that is the SOLE business of the people who live there and elect their local officials. It is NOT the business of a goose stepping unelected Pedophile of a president who wants to throw his illegitimate weight around.

You also have investment from people who have no plan to live in the home that's increased value: Short-term rentals or foreign investment. Canada has looked to tackle the latter recently.

Hence my continued inner peace, based on my not giving a rat's ass what Canada does. Also, shows my brilliance in not moving there.

It's called a FREE MARKET.  If investors want to buy residential property for purposes of renting them out, (at least in the state of Florida) there are non-freehold regulations in our state statutes. Investors are NOT violating any laws by investing in rental property. In my particular area, rental property is going through the roof, so it's a very good investment.

You want to paint all people looking for Affordable housing as a Drug Dealers and Rabble. It's simply not the case.

This attack on American suburbs has NOTHING to do with young people looking for affordable housing. Young people have sought affordable housing for as long as there have been houses.

This is about an unelected NAZI president wanting to trash local zoning laws in suburbs, so the drug dealers, welfare cheats, muggers, etc can get FREE HOUSING, right down the street from their future victims.

See what's happening in San Fran? That's what happens when young intelligent people can't afford to live where they work. Would you prefer a homeless problem in Suburbs? 

San Fran's problems do NOT stem from young intelligent people wanting anything.The boneheads who live there VOTED for this squalor. Same as the rest of that third world shithole California. It features both the SUPER RICH and the SUPER POOR, while everyone who wants a job is moving out of that state.

Again, intelligent young people do not have a problem finding affordable housing. They generally work harder and smarter and AFFORD the housing, sooner or later. And your Nazi president wants to punish those who have EARNED that housing.

 

 

 

[reason10]

So all these Boomers who had good jobs that required no higher education can buy homes inline with their wages but young people today can pound salt and commute 2 hours a day if they want to live in a single-family home. 

What about the Boomers whose good jobs required college? Are you saying that doesn't exist? In Florida, it doesn't take a four year degree to be certified to work in air conditioning repair, and those folks start out at six figures a year.

Boomers ALSO had to commute, sometimes two hours a day to EARN what they have. This week, my job will put 500 miles on my car and I'm definitely Boomer age. I'm not complaining. I'm just doing what most intelligent people are doing. I'm EARNING my way.

The price of higher education has also skyrocketed in recent years. 

And you can THANK student loans subsidized by the federal government for that happening. Government has aided and abetted colleges price gouging for the past forty years.

And boneheads run up six figures for a Lesbian Dance Theory degree and wonder why they can barely get hired to flip burgers.

 

Edited February 14, 2023 by reason10