Contrarian Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 (edited) Any other political junkies on the board waiting for the State of the Union address? Set my reminder for 9 PM. Had enough of listening of the commentary before from so called experts on TV. Rather listen to the man direct.This is why I won't tune in at 7 PM as ABC offered. Instead is USA Today, right at 9PM: A report by Axios: Team Biden is convinced that its State of the Union challenge today at 9 PM is as much about perception as reality. Why it matters: Economic indicators are heading in the exact direction the White House predicted, but voters are deeply skeptical that the economy is working for them. Team Biden is eager for the president to tell his story and are willing to use one of his most precious resources — time in his annual address to Congress — to make the case directly to the American public. The White House has given lawmakers "palm cards," a list of economic data points that can fit in their hands, to help amplify President Biden's argument that manufacturing jobs are up and inflation is down. Four in 10 Americans say they are not as well-off financially since Biden took office, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll released Monday. Biden’s political and economic advisers know that is a problem that needs to be addressed as he prepares to announce his reelection campaign. What they're saying: “On average, American households are in a better position than they were before the pandemic hit,” Brian Deese, the director of the National Economic Council, told reporters Monday afternoon. But at the same time, he acknowledged that “the economic anxiety is real.” Deese responded to a question about why 41% of Americans feel they are worse off, according to the Washington Post poll, by implying that “two-thirds of Americans say their circumstances are better.” A reporter later corrected him that the poll indicated that 16% of Americans feel better off, with 42% saying they felt the same. Driving the news: Biden’s economic comments will be both in the future and past tense. He’ll focus on the progress the economy has made, including a 3.4% unemployment rate, the lowest level in some 50 years, and a surge in manufacturing jobs. He'll also go through the motions of asking Congress, including a new House Republican majority, to pass the parts of his Build Back Better agenda that were left on the cutting room floor last year by a Democrat-controlled Senate. Among Biden’s demands: a special surtax on billionaires and a call to quadruple taxes on corporations for stock buybacks. He'll also make another pass at expanding the Child Tax Credit. As part of his “unity” theme, Biden also plans to say that Republicans and Democrats must come together to pass laws meant to reel in the power and influence of Big Tech, possibly highlighting the specific areas of online privacy, content moderation and antitrust, Axios' Ashley Gold reports. The big picture: The U.S. labor market is hot, annualized GDP growth is at 2.9%, and inflation, once sky high, is moderating. Biden’s first move was a $1.9 trillion COVID relief package in 2021, followed by a $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill later that year. In 2022, he persuaded Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) to agree to a $740 billion tax, health care and climate change compromise. Next came an agreement on $280 billion for semiconductors, with Biden jumping at any chance to visit many new chip manufacturing factories. The bottom line: Positive perceptions about the economy can be self-fulfilling. But economic fundamentals also matter: Before Biden speaks, Fed Chair Jay Powell will give his views at the Economic Club of Washington at 11am ET.https://www.axios.com/2023/02/07/biden-state-of-the-union-economy Edited February 8 by Contrarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 Lol...I predict Biden will look like the old fool and puppet he really is tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 7 Author Report Share Posted February 7 Just now, Nationalist said: Lol...I predict Biden will look like the old fool and puppet he really is tonight. What is the news from your sources? Is Marjorie going to call Trump while Biden speaks? Is Gaetz going to get a haircut before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 (edited) 14 hours ago, Contrarian said: What is the news from your sources? Is Marjorie going to call Trump while Biden speaks? Is Gaetz going to get a haircut before? I don't know. Is AOC gonna wear a slutty dress with graffiti all over it? Is Pelosi going to tear the speech up after Biden delivers it? Edited February 8 by Nationalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 7 Author Report Share Posted February 7 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I don't know. Is AOC gonna wear a sutty dress with graffiti all over it? Is Pelosi going to tear the speech up after Biden delivers it? Man can play ping pong however I would argue that it was not a "slutty dress" but a "hypocrite" dress and there is an investigation about that Gala done through legal channels. Edited February 7 by Contrarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 13 minutes ago, Contrarian said: Man can play ping pong however I would argue that it was not a "slutty dress" but a "hypocrite" dress and there is an investigation about that Gala done through legal channels. Biden is toast.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 7 Author Report Share Posted February 7 Paul Pelosi will attend the State of the Union address too. Can you imagine all the usual suspects fumigating at the mouth when everyone will stand for husband Pelosi? 😄 That will be like a left wing radical screaming: "NOOOO" when Trump was swearing in his presidency. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 9 hours ago, Contrarian said: Any other political junkies on the board waiting for the State of the Union address? Set my reminder for 9 PM. Had enough of listening of the commentary before from so called experts on TV. Rather listen to the man direct.This is why I won't tune in at 7 PM as ABC offered. Instead is USA Today, right at 9PM: A report by Axios: Team Biden is convinced that its State of the Union challenge today at 9 PM is as much about perception as reality. Why it matters: Economic indicators are heading in the exact direction the White House predicted, but voters are deeply skeptical that the economy is working for them. Team Biden is eager for the president to tell his story and are willing to use one of his most precious resources — time in his annual address to Congress — to make the case directly to the American public. The White House has given lawmakers "palm cards," a list of economic data points that can fit in their hands, to help amplify President Biden's argument that manufacturing jobs are up and inflation is down. Four in 10 Americans say they are not as well-off financially since Biden took office, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll released Monday. Biden’s political and economic advisers know that is a problem that needs to be addressed as he prepares to announce his reelection campaign. What they're saying: “On average, American households are in a better position than they were before the pandemic hit,” Brian Deese, the director of the National Economic Council, told reporters Monday afternoon. But at the same time, he acknowledged that “the economic anxiety is real.” Deese responded to a question about why 41% of Americans feel they are worse off, according to the Washington Post poll, by implying that “two-thirds of Americans say their circumstances are better.” A reporter later corrected him that the poll indicated that 16% of Americans feel better off, with 42% saying they felt the same. Driving the news: Biden’s economic comments will be both in the future and past tense. He’ll focus on the progress the economy has made, including a 3.4% unemployment rate, the lowest level in some 50 years, and a surge in manufacturing jobs. He'll also go through the motions of asking Congress, including a new House Republican majority, to pass the parts of his Build Back Better agenda that were left on the cutting room floor last year by a Democrat-controlled Senate. Among Biden’s demands: a special surtax on billionaires and a call to quadruple taxes on corporations for stock buybacks. He'll also make another pass at expanding the Child Tax Credit. As part of his “unity” theme, Biden also plans to say that Republicans and Democrats must come together to pass laws meant to reel in the power and influence of Big Tech, possibly highlighting the specific areas of online privacy, content moderation and antitrust, Axios' Ashley Gold reports. The big picture: The U.S. labor market is hot, annualized GDP growth is at 2.9%, and inflation, once sky high, is moderating. Biden’s first move was a $1.9 trillion COVID relief package in 2021, followed by a $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill later that year. In 2022, he persuaded Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) to agree to a $740 billion tax, health care and climate change compromise. Next came an agreement on $280 billion for semiconductors, with Biden jumping at any chance to visit many new chip manufacturing factories. The bottom line: Positive perceptions about the economy can be self-fulfilling. But economic fundamentals also matter: Before Biden speaks, Fed Chair Jay Powell will give his views at the Economic Club of Washington at 11am ET.https://www.axios.com/2023/02/07/biden-state-of-the-union-economy He should hire a drummer, to play rim shots in between the lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 So basically, 'everything is wonderful. Don't believe your lying eyes." And then it's nap time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 I think Sarah Huckabee Sanders does the response. I'm more interested in that, so I'll be tuning in late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 7 Author Report Share Posted February 7 Some can't handle both sides of the information and are tuning in later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 8 minutes ago, Contrarian said: Some can't handle both sides of the information and are tuning in later. They'll only believe anything when Tucker gives them permission. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Contrarian said: Some can't handle both sides of the information and are tuning in later. I thought I was clear. I already know what Joe's going to say. You three only hear what they want to so it doesn't matter what you listen to. If you guys ever come up with something new. Call me. I'll listen. I listened to Joe's last red Nazi hate speech. That was wild. Edited February 7 by Infidel Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 4 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: I thought I was clear. I already know what Joe's going to say. IF ^this is true, tell us exactly and we'll find out if you're right. Unless you're afraid you'll be wrong.... and you don't really KNOW what he'll say.... LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 Exactly? Oh so now "exactly" matters does it? You crack me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 5 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: Exactly? Oh so now "exactly" matters does it? You crack me up. If you KNOW, you'd know exactly. Otherwise, you're just guessing and will say "I was close." LMAO. IMO, at best you believe you have SOME IDEA..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 You're the last person on this board who should ever be asking for exactitude from anybody. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 7 Author Report Share Posted February 7 (edited) Live in 3 HOURS, all eyes on Joe, here is a serious question aside from the identity politics. How far will Biden go in regards to the CCP in China? I have an intuition that some people at the Pentagon have a different, bolder approach to China's communist leadership. I guess no room to be weak with the CCP in such an environment where every authoritarian around the world is salivating at the mouth at the idea that the US might not maintain their position. So this is what I will be watching for. Edited February 7 by Contrarian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 Biden is exactly what Americans expected him to be after a nearly 50 year track record in D.C. Nothing he says tonight at the SOTU speech will alter perceptions about him by friend or foe. He is called Sleepy Joe for a reason. China is not as pressing an issue compared to the conflagration in Ukraine. Most Americans do not want to die for Ukraine, and they still love buying cheap Chinese products. A dozen large eggs now costs nearly $5 US...interest rates are still rising...and federal debt is out of control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 Not really interested. His speaking performances aren't usually good enough to merit appointment TV status and I strongly doubt that there will be any surprises. And I'm pretty informed of the state of the union. I know there was a jaw-dropping jobs report. I don't really need POTUS to remind me several times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said: You're the last person on this board who should ever be asking for exactitude from anybody. You're the one who said YOU KNOW what Biden is going to say. Thanks for admitting YOU DON'T KNOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Biden is exactly what Americans expected him to be after a nearly 50 year track record in D.C. Nothing he says tonight at the SOTU speech will alter perceptions about him by friend or foe. He is called Sleepy Joe for a reason. China is not as pressing an issue compared to the conflagration in Ukraine. Most Americans do not want to die for Ukraine, and they still love buying cheap Chinese products. A dozen large eggs now costs nearly $5 US...interest rates are still rising...and federal debt is out of control. I just got 2 dozen large eggs at Food 4 Less for $1/ea. Great deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 54 minutes ago, Hodad said: His speaking performances aren't usually good enough to merit appointment TV status and I strongly doubt that there will be any surprises. As long as he has his drool bucket, he'll be fine... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 8 Author Report Share Posted February 8 (edited) I don't know if my expectations were low, however, the man so far, too tired to watch the whole thing, so far I think he handled well for a man at his age. Anyone though, that tells me Biden can handle another term is lying to themselves. Edited February 8 by Contrarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 Joe Biden did just fine...nobody expected a stupendous performance...just that he did not stumble badly and have "senior" moments. As for re-election, this was a vintage politician doing what vintage politicians do, with lots of pandering to special interest groups. So expect more of the same going forward.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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