Contrarian Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) ---> Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has called a group of protesters who swarmed him outside a Hamilton, Ont. restaurant on Tuesday a “handful of angry people.” Video posted to social media, shows the prime minister walking into Jackson Square, a plaza located near James Street and York Boulevard, while a large group of people yell, swear and call on him to resign. Uniformed officers are seen protecting Trudeau, ensuring he’s able to walk through the street safely. https://www.cp24.com/news/justin-trudeau-calls-protestors-who-swarmed-him-outside-hamilton-ont-restaurant-handful-of-angry-people-1.6245905 --- Before your paranoia kicks in, I did not call for the arrests of the protesters, what I am curious about is can anyone offer a rational (modern, 2023) explanation as to why the people in this group are leading with the American flag? (see picture below) Are they supporters of Joe Biden angry at Trudeau? or is it that they are supporters of another man from America which does not recognise his own elections up to this day? Edited January 26 by Contrarian 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Perhaps they are Americans attempting to foment dissatisfaction with the current regime, but forgot they were in Canada? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 Just now, dialamah said: Perhaps they are Americans attempting to foment dissatisfaction with the current regime, but forgot they were in Canada? If that's the case, no more Nexus 😂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Banana Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Clown-boy will be enacting the Emergency Act yet again . . . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 I don't see the problem. It was a protest so.... American Presidents don't walk in public much, so there's that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 2 hours ago, Contrarian said: Before your paranoia kicks in, I did not call for the arrests of the protesters, what I am curious about is can anyone offer a rational (modern, 2023) explanation as to why the people in this group are leading with the American flag? because the Government of Canada is a lunatic asylum of Marxist Leninist Communist traitors who have invoked American freedom as the enemy of Canada so now freedom loving Canadians are turning to Old Glory as a bulwark against the villainous cabal in occupation of Ottawa I mean, duh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WestCanMan Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: You're better-looking than I would have guessed (seriously, no man-bun?), but your autobiography is long-winded and banal. Edited January 26 by WestCanMan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 On 1/26/2023 at 5:10 PM, WestCanMan said: You're better-looking than I would have guessed (seriously, no man-bun?), but your autobiography is long-winded and banal. Actually, I thought it was a real photo of WestConMan since that is exactly what he whines about all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suds Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 1 lousy U.S. flag greatly outnumbered by Canadian flags doesn't exactly turn this into an American protest. Sort of like a year ago when 1 lousy swastika flag amid a sea of hundreds of Canadian flags became the main focal point of our largely fake news media. In a way it's sort of nice to see some support from our American brothers and sisters who are dealing with their own brands of government overreach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, suds said: 1 lousy U.S. flag greatly outnumbered by Canadian flags doesn't exactly turn this into an American protest. Sort of like a year ago when 1 lousy swastika flag amid a sea of hundreds of Canadian flags became the main focal point of our largely fake news media. In a way it's sort of nice to see some support from our American brothers and sisters who are dealing with their own brands of government overreach. The question is why these flags are there at all, if it's a Canadian protest over Canadian issues. Ignoring the question because there's only one flag misses the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suds Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 I thought i did answer the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, suds said: from our American brothers and sisters How do you know he was an American? How are you so certain? Maybe he is a Canadian, fan of Donald Trump, which is a believer in a parallel legal system in the US and says he is the President. Some of his supporters which engaged in hooliganism are wanted by the FBI too. Antifa flies their communists from Maine to Georgia to engage in agitation is a theory I heard. How do you know this man did not fly from BC, I see a lot of BC Trump fans on this website, to agitate the waters? He was probably a local Hamilton Trump fan, or maybe he was an American fighting for his own brand of "Freedom", but that is beside the point. You are willing to call yourself brother and sister with a man just for holding a flag and because he swears at a politician that you don't like? 😄 Brilliant. That is all it takes. Edited January 28 by Contrarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, dialamah said: The question is why these flags are there at all, if it's a Canadian protest over Canadian issues. Ignoring the question because there's only one flag misses the point. Maybe the Bill of Rights is better for Canada than our weak Charter. We have no enshrined property rights and weak protection of free speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suds Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 35 minutes ago, Contrarian said: How do you know he was an American? How are you so certain? Maybe he is a Canadian, fan of Donald Trump, which is a believer in a parallel legal system in the US and says he is the President. Some of his supporters which engaged in hooliganism are wanted by the FBI too. Antifa flies their communists from Maine to Georgia to engage in agitation is a theory I heard. How do you know this man did not fly from BC, I see a lot of BC Trump fans on this website, to agitate the waters? He was probably a local Hamilton Trump fan, or maybe he was an American fighting for his own brand of "Freedom", but that is beside the point. You are willing to call yourself brother and sister with a man just for holding a flag and because he swears at a politician that you don't like? 😄 Brilliant. That is all it takes. A Canadian carrying a U.S. flag in Canada (because they're a Trump fan) sounds a little weird to me. You could be right though, I'm not going to argue the point. But you are absolutely correct about one thing... we all tend to support those protesters who's causes we share a belief in. I can't change the fact that most protests are political. And if there is international support, so much the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suds Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Trudeau....“It’s really, really important in our democracy that people can express their disagreement or displeasure or even anger with various governments.” again, more Trudeau.... “A handful of angry people do not define what Hamilton is or what democracy is in this country,” again, even more Trudeau.... “We’re not going to let a handful of angry people interfere with the democratic processes that Canadians have always taken pride in.” All these quotes were taken from the opening post. For many Canadians, the only way they can 'express their disagreement or displeasure or even anger with various governments' is through protest, and sometimes it isn't pretty. The right to protest is what separates the free world from the rest. Is this just plain political doublespeak? Is he clueless? Or does he fully understand the concept but don't do it to him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Banana Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 4 hours ago, Contrarian said: How do you know he was an American? How are you so certain? Could also be a Trudeau supporter there to draw attention of the news media, and show the legitimate protesters in a bad light. This also could be the antics of the Nazi flag bearer at the Ottawa Freedom Rally. How about the fake story of the Ottawa group trying to burn a building? Also question the so-called cache of arms at Coutts, Alberta. What better way to smooth the way for Trudeau and his bullsh!t sporting arms ban? Ask yourself . . . is there anything sacred that Trudeau wouldn't do to further his self-image? Self promotion is the only driver of Liberal policy now. Canada's a lesser place since it contracted the Trudeau virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Americans are our neighbours. Even before covid, the American government was getting increasingly concerned about Canada's ties and close friendship with China. They were starting to avoid us a bit. Trudeau made public statements openly admiring the dictatorship of China. He refused to cut ties with Huawei even after all the other democracies did. America recognized there was something fishy about 2 Chinese scientists being kicked out of the Winnipeg lab months before the covid outbreak and Trudeau refusing to say why, is disconcerting. From comments I've seen and articles I have read, a lot of Americans were pretty happy to finally see Canadians push back against Trudeau's authoritarianism. They don't want us to descend into becoming anything like China. It's not in their best interests to have a China-dictatorship-loving country as a neighbour. They carried Canadian flags in their protests. American citizens are fighting authoritarianism in their country, too. Because it has not been reported in the MSM, most Canadians are not aware that this authoritarianism is being protested across the world. Huge protests. In other countries, the people often carry Canadian flags to the protests. In New Zealand, Arden, who ruled her country with an authoritarian fist during covid as Trudeau did, was being greeting by hundreds of protesters everywhere she went and had also plummeted in popularity in the polls. She resigned. Hopefully Trudeau will, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 (edited) I have a different theory: Trudeau will not resign, he will finish his mandate, we will most likely have a Conservative PM as the country is due for a change, and then people will find another obsession to blame their problems over. As for the theory with that guy being a Trudeau fan, I doubt it, at the anti-vax mandate rally in the big city which I live in, not sure why they keep marching, are there still mandates? but anyhow at this march which is only about 50 people, is cold now, I always see the American flag and people at the megaphone yelling the same Trumpistic populistic messages. Some are an international movement like communism, it seems. If one wants to live in a parallel word in which your reality is based on what you read in your bubble, be my guest, just don't except everyone to follow, which clearly they don't. Is 50-100 people that still march, and I am supposed to listen to them as "the people"? I don't base my compass on mob anger. but, whatever gets you through the day and helps you, when the Conservatives will come to power I have no doubt the obsession will continue or a new one will come up to justify your direction. Edited January 29 by Contrarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Right on!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 42 minutes ago, Contrarian said: If one wants to live in a parallel word in which your reality is based on what you read in your bubble, be my guest, just don't except everyone to follow, which clearly they don't. Is 50-100 people that still march, and I am supposed to listen to them as "the people"? I don't base my compass on mob anger. Canadians have done a lot more with a lot less people protesting, look at the survivors of poly tech, and how they have shaped gun control measures, or the Ottawa university professor who made the accusation of mistreated POW in Afghanistan, sparked a massive review on how Canada treats POW's, there is also Martin Luther King... was one man that shaped equal rights for millions...So numbers don't always equate is the cause a good one or bad one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Canadians have done a lot more with a lot less people protesting, look at the survivors of poly tech, and how they have shaped gun control measures, or the Ottawa university professor89 who made the accusation of mistreated POW in Afghanistan, sparked a massive review on how Canada treats POW's, there is also Martin Luther King... was one man that shaped equal rights for millions...So numbers don't always equate is the cause a good one or bad one.... so the 50-100 group which its leaders features a megaphone and talking about conspiracy theories (I seen and heard it personally), one world government, yelling at people who chose to wear a mask on the street, is equal to MLK? You know, I am not one to agree with Jimmy Kimmel types which make money on zero productivity when they mock such opinions with a deep distaste. My Question, do you not see yourself when you make such statements, it opens up to mockery? Why do you keep providing such material for people to mock your position? then, you turn around and play angry. Well, good luck with changing things, I will most likely vote conservative and focus on reality. Not really sure what you are talking about. Edited January 29 by Contrarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 18 minutes ago, Contrarian said: so the 50-100 group which its leaders features a megaphone and talking about conspiracy theories (I seen and heard it personally), one world government, yelling at people who chose to wear a mask on the street, is equal to MLK? You know, I am not one to agree with Jimmy Kimmel types which make money on zero productiviy when they mock such opinions with a deep distaste. My Question, do you not see yourself when you make such statements, it opens up to mockery? Why do you keep providing such material for people to mock your position? then, you turn around and play angry. Well, good luck with changing things, I will most likely vote conservative and focus on reality. Not really sure what you are talking about. Thats not what i said , i said it does not take a big crowd to push an idea or message...and gave you examples of that...Thats all i did...I did not take a stand on your post but rather commented And your reading way to much into my post, Playing angry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Army Guy said: And your reading way to much into my post. Is not my fault, is instinct, I like to theorize, based on past posts. As any theories, some end up wrong, some are correct. Yes, I was reffering to the overall struggle between elitism and "the people" movement which you represent. Populism talks too much without evidence and then good for nothings like Jimmy Kimmel in my opinion make millions by mocking such material. I think populism would achieve more if they only focus on economics and leave aside the ridiculous comparisions between some drunks at an Ottawa protest which partied to MLK civil rights struggle times is my view. Edited January 29 by Contrarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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