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Wow!  This "just transition" that Trudeau was talking about could be the worst catastrophe to hit Canada.

Rex Murphy describes it as "a fist to the mouth of Canada":

“When you start to think about it, it’s pretty extraordinary that we — (a) select group of human beings … are able to sit in a room and come together and actually talk about saving the planet. … I mean, it’s so almost extraterrestrial to think about ‘saving the planet.’” — John Kerry at Davos.

What’s really, finally, at the heart of radical environmentalism?

An insatiable urge, an unshakeable lust to govern the lives, habits and choices of everyone — everyone — who does not think like them, who chooses not to see the world as they prefer them to see it, who questions their furious dogmas and resists their sprawling imperatives into every corner of every person’s real life.

It is far more about control of people, control in the smallest ways and control in the absolutely largest ways, than it is about — as they so pompously and vacuously put it — saving the planet.

It wants to order, and increasingly is ordering, individual people and entire governments to do only as they say. Nothing is too petty for them to stick their authoritarian noses into, nothing too huge and global."

Rex Murphy: Liberals' 'just transition' a fist to the mouth of Canada (msn.com)

If this isn't like neo-Marxism, I don't know what is.  It is more like a Marxist revolution. 

People thought there was a madman in charge when Hitler was in charge of Germany or Stalin in charge of Russia or Chairman Mao in charge of China.

Here we have a guy in charge who won with 39% of the vote and is in a minority government position and who is coming down on Canadians like a ton of bricks driven by an extreme green ideology and belief he is saving the planet.  He is determined to make a revolutionary change to the Canadian economy that could drastically alter the lives of millions of Canadians.  Heaven help us.

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"Sitting on the molehill of a 31 per cent minority government, the Trudeau Liberals are setting about to shut down oil and gas, revamp forestry and agriculture, and let loose Niagara-sized plumes of government subsidy to every dubious “net-zero” fantasy OK’d by their favourite “consultants.”

Rex Murphy: Liberals' 'just transition' a fist to the mouth of Canada (msn.com)

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The only hope we have is that, like most government initiatives, in the end nothing will happen.  Reality has a way of taking over.  Germany, the climate change poster child, has detained Greta at a coal mine site reopening.  Right now it's every country for themselves and the devil take the hindmost.  Canada is a bad example to use because of the world's four largest oil producers we're the only ones with carbon taxes and a federal government determined to kill the oil industry...we're not reality.

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8 hours ago, blackbird said:

Here we have a guy in charge who won with 39% of the vote and is in a minority government position and who is coming down on Canadians like a ton of bricks driven by an extreme green ideology and belief he is saving the planet.  He is determined to make a revolutionary change to the Canadian economy that could drastically alter the lives of millions of Canadians.  Heaven help us.

Trudeau has psychopathic tendencies.  Combined with his cabinet of brain-dead penguins, and the NDP enabler, they are ransacking my country.  All are traitors.

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4 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Having different policy direction than your favoured political party doesn’t meet the definition of “traitor”.  

Not that at all . . . .

Trudeau's total indifference to the needs of this country, uncontrolled spending, distain for anything/anybody that questions his 'messiah-like' preoccupation with global warming, all the while ignoring the economic and environmental benefits of LGN exports, and his total preoccupation with his image . . . . . the list is long.

I do recognize your adoration of Justin Trudeau and all that he does to make you and Hardner happy . . . .

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18 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Not that at all . . . .

Trudeau's total indifference to the needs of this country, uncontrolled spending, distain for anything/anybody that questions his 'messiah-like' preoccupation with global warming, all the while ignoring the economic and environmental benefits of LGN exports, and his total preoccupation with his image . . . . . the list is long.

 

None of the things you listed fit the definition of a “traitor”.  They’re just traits you don’t like, or policies you disagree with.   
 

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I do recognize your adoration of Justin Trudeau and all that he does to make you and Hardner happy . . . .

Challenge:   Find a single post from me where I praise anything Trudeau has done.  

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"A global network of more than 500 knowledgeable and experienced scientists and professionals in climate and related fields have the honor to address to Your Excellencies the attached European Climate Declaration, for which the signatories to this letter are the national ambassadors. The general-circulation models of climate on which international policy is at present founded are unfit for their purpose.

Therefore, it is cruel as well as imprudent to advocate the squandering of trillions of dollars on the basis of results from such immature models. Current climate policies pointlessly and grievously undermine the economic system, putting lives at risk in countries denied access to affordable, reliable electrical energy. We urge you to follow a climate policy based on sound science, realistic economics and genuine concern for those harmed by costly but unnecessary attempts at mitigation

Here are the specific points about climate change highlighted in the letter:

1 Natural as well as anthropogenic factors cause warming.
2. Warming is far slower than predicted.
3. Climate policy relies on inadequate models.
4. CO2 is not a pollutant. It is a plant food that is essential to all life on Earth. Photosynthesis is a blessing. More CO2 is beneficial for nature, greening the Earth: additional CO2 in the air has promoted growth in global plant biomass. It is also good for agriculture, increasing the yields of crops worldwide.
5. Global warming has not increased natural disasters.
6. Climate policy must respect scientific and economic realities."

There Is No Climate Emergency, Say 500 Experts in Letter to the United Nations | American Enterprise Institute - AEI

Trudeau listens only to the U.N. who just made a demand at WEF in Davos that the world must stop using fossil fuels.  This is the kind of thing the Church of Trudeau worships and follows blindly.  The UK has made a complete mess of their country and economy by following this climate alarmism madness.  Why should Canadians have this same kind of insanity imposed on them by the actor in Ottawa.  There are countless reasons why he cannot be believed.  He just said his "just transition" will help Canada, which could not be further from the truth.  It will be a total disaster for millions of Canadians.

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The liberals are a national disaster.  They are unable to manage our economy, housing, the health care system, passport offices, air travel, the building of the military, and countless other things;  yet they think they can control the climate which nobody has ever been able to do.

Rex Murphy: The Trudeau Liberals are coming for your jobs (msn.com)

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Is Trudeau's "just transition" going to be a national disaster?

So absolutely no discussion on how, why or if? Only the usual climate denier babble, Trudeau hate and berating over what TV station people should watch?

Grow up FFS

 

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2 minutes ago, herbie said:

Is Trudeau's "just transition" going to be a national disaster?

So absolutely no discussion on how, why or if? Only the usual climate denier babble, Trudeau hate and berating over what TV station people should watch?

Grow up FFS

 

Just like there's been "absolutely no discussion" with the citizens that are bearing the brunt of Trudeau's one track obsession with climate change.

You grow up or grow a pair FFS

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9 minutes ago, herbie said:

Is Trudeau's "just transition" going to be a national disaster?

So absolutely no discussion on how, why or if? Only the usual climate denier babble, Trudeau hate and berating over what TV station people should watch?

Grow up FFS

 

I have yet to see the government run anything successful. I doubt this will be different

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Well you could start by telling us just how you think the gov't is 'running' this?
In a much better way than just claiming that buying and building an oil pipeline to export oil is 'killing' the oil industry.

Nobody told Elon Musk to build EVs or Ballard to build fuel cells.Or ordered those wind and solar farms be built.  Or lives on past reputation as a reporter to claim pointing out opportunities and incentives is a causal and therefore negative thing to do.
Times are changing and Trudeau did not make them change, so if he wants a buzzword and plan to make change easier WTH? Good politics. Much more so than "Dump the Carbon Tax" as your opponents sole Climate Policy

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21 hours ago, herbie said:

Well you could start by telling us just how you think the gov't is 'running' this?

If Trudeau thinks we can get away with selling only electric vehicles in ten years he's on some pretty wild drugs. Or whatever butthead is advising him - likely Gerald Butts - is.

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1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

If Trudeau thinks we can get away with selling only electric vehicles in ten years he's on some pretty wild drugs. Or whatever butthead is advising him - likely Gerald Butts - is.

All these ideologues manipulating markets, attempting to solve climate change by creating new environmental catastrophes and making people poorer need real jobs.  I think that MP wages should be slashed so the champagne socialists lose their perks and find other work. Something tells me a working person would make a much more down to earth politician who knows what most people really want and need to thrive. It isn’t carbon taxes.  

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If you have ever looked at any media that isn't a whiney anti-climate rag, you probably don't know that ALL the auto manufacturers are already converting their main production to EVs and hybrids. Major countries and US states already have these target deadlines so if you want a legitimate anti-Trudeau rant you should be criticizing him for being so late to the game.

Look at some legacy media and you'll see gas prices are rising again and predicted to hit even higher levels than last time, and use your head to decide if this is a last gasp gouging effort by oil companies or will you believe some market mumbo-jumbo is causing prices to rise as demand falls. How many new refineries are under construction? Why are they buying up alt-energy and rare earth stocks? Do the oil companies know something you refuse to acknowledge?
Are the auto makers building EVs because they're forced to, or because they can make money at it?

The transition is happening whether you like it or not, and assistance to deal with that is a positive response.

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36 minutes ago, herbie said:

If you have ever looked at any media that isn't a whiney anti-climate rag, you probably don't know that ALL the auto manufacturers are already converting their main production to EVs and hybrids. Major countries and US states already have these target deadlines so if you want a legitimate anti-Trudeau rant you should be criticizing him for being so late to the game.

Look at some legacy media and you'll see gas prices are rising again and predicted to hit even higher levels than last time, and use your head to decide if this is a last gasp gouging effort by oil companies or will you believe some market mumbo-jumbo is causing prices to rise as demand falls. How many new refineries are under construction? Why are they buying up alt-energy and rare earth stocks? Do the oil companies know something you refuse to acknowledge?
Are the auto makers building EVs because they're forced to, or because they can make money at it?

The transition is happening whether you like it or not, and assistance to deal with that is a positive response.

Solving a theoretical future environmental problem by causing a real one today: mining of rare earth metals, building batteries that can’t be recycled… EV’s will improve and take over, but extorting money from working poor to achieve this faster is both punishing and unnecessary.

You still haven’t figured out how all that green electricity will be produced…

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