Zeitgeist Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, West said: Good response.. but these folks are sick enough to believe freezing everyone out is virtuous The excuse of fighting climate change is being used to justify an all out assault on the poor and middle class. Carbon taxes and all “climate action” charges on energy and fuel are evil. Carbon taxes are existence taxes that impact the costs of all goods, not just home heating and transportation, but food and other necessities. The WEF’s rich ideologues are willing to sacrifice the health and prosperity of billions to achieve their deluded dream of climate purity. Edited January 20, 2023 by Zeitgeist 3 1 Quote
eyeball Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said: They did say that raising the price on natural gas in Europe where home heating prices are extremely high and unaffordable to many, especially the elderly, reduced natural gas consumption by 20%. Duh. Duh? This, is not what... 3 hours ago, West said: They were literally talking about hiking your energy bill so high you can't afford to heat your home lol Quote Basically they’re saying people should risk their health and be reduced to poverty in the name of saving the planet. Cruel and sick. Basically what you guys are doing is establishing that right wingers with a WEF conspiracy fetish are irredeemable weirdos. 1 4 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
West Posted January 20, 2023 Author Report Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Duh? This, is not what... Basically what you guys are doing is establishing that right wingers with a WEF conspiracy fetish are irredeemable weirdos. You can watch the clip above.. they talked about increasing energy costs so that people don't consume 1 Quote
Zeitgeist Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 5 hours ago, West said: You can watch the clip above.. they talked about increasing energy costs so that people don't consume As time passes I see more and more how dangerously uncritical much of the population is towards oppressive government policies. It starts to make sense of the idea of mass hypnosis or the power of persuasion through propaganda from the state and state-funded media. It’s how dictators get and maintain power. The climate change fear machine is already a tool of oppression and we should be very worried about future “solutions” from these “young global leaders”. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 This is not about climate change. It's about global control. Centralized world government. 2 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, Nationalist said: This is not about climate change. It's about global control. Centralized world government. Man, are some of you capable of looking out your windows while being so paranoid?? LOL 2 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ironstone Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 10 hours ago, eyeball said: Bullshit they said that. No one says that. This elite, speaking at the WEF, said it. Just scroll to 3:10 and listen for yourself. 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Nationalist Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Man, are some of you capable of looking out your windows while being so paranoid?? LOL Yes. I see a cloudy, wet January day. What do you see? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Yes. I see a cloudy, wet January day. What do you see? Paranoia, by paranoid people behind closed blinds LOL Edited January 20, 2023 by ExFlyer Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Zeitgeist Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Paranoia, by paranoid people behind closed blinds LOL Go back to fly fishing. Politics is hard. Edited January 20, 2023 by Zeitgeist Quote
eyeball Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 11 hours ago, West said: You can watch the clip above.. they talked about increasing energy costs so that people don't consume The point of carbon taxes you mean? You people have been freaking out about this for decades. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
West Posted January 20, 2023 Author Report Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, eyeball said: The point of carbon taxes you mean? You people have been freaking out about this for decades. People like you are disgraceful. Quote
eyeball Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 4 hours ago, ironstone said: This elite, speaking at the WEF, said it. Just scroll to 3:10 and listen for yourself. What don't you still get after listening to people saying the same thing for decades now? What's the matter with you? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, West said: People like you are disgraceful. Awwww. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) What WEF is talking about with regards to carbon taxes should have been firmly in place globally 25 years ago. Today WEF should be talking about using green energy taxes to help pay for the removal of old rusting out refineries and other fossil fuel infrastructure around the planet and the restoration of impacted sites back towards nature. Edited January 20, 2023 by eyeball 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Michael Hardner Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 41 minutes ago, eyeball said: Awwww. As opposed to people who see conspiracy everywhere and ignore facts, and basic human empathy to boot... 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Legato Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Paranoia, by paranoid people behind closed blinds LOL Please do try to fly above the clouds and not in them. It would very much help in seeing the end of your nose. Quote
ExFlyer Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: Go back to fly fishing. Politics is hard. No it is not. You can play it so it must be really simple. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ExFlyer Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Legato said: Please do try to fly above the clouds and not in them. It would very much help in seeing the end of your nose. Huh? Paranoids don't ever see past their nose LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Nationalist Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Paranoia, by paranoid people behind closed blinds LOL Really? So watching a bunch of rich and powerful make decisions about your future, especially when their deciding to drastically alter your future, and the future of your kids, doesn't bother you in the slightest? I find it incredulous that this pack of power mongers brag about the edicts they've seen enacted by states, and completely ignore the cost and suffering they're imposing. A person would have to be b-b-b-blind...not to see what's going on here. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: As opposed to people who see conspiracy everywhere and ignore facts, and basic human empathy to boot... OK hang on there. What "facts"? That this climate freak-out is causing hardship and suffering everywhere? That you don't care about that? Exactly what "facts" might we be-a-talkin' about here? Basic human empathy? Again...who's got empathy for all those who can't afford their heating bill...have constant electrical brownouts...etc? This chickenshit is completely unnecessary and down right insidious. Given the time, Man would find a reliable and "cleaner" way to power our world. To trash what we have now, BEFORE we have that reliable energy source, is just plain old dumb! It also clearly expresses a complete lack of faith in Mankind. Edited January 20, 2023 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Michael Hardner Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 Again I ask - for those worried about influence of the rich and powerful, why do they not voice concerns about lobbying ? Why is it only when the rich and powerful express concern about climate change do certain people sit up and notice ? Influence on labour, environmental and tax law doesn't seem to register an eyebrow raise. 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Again I ask - for those worried about influence of the rich and powerful, why do they not voice concerns about lobbying ? Why is it only when the rich and powerful express concern about climate change do certain people sit up and notice ? Influence on labour, environmental and tax law doesn't seem to register an eyebrow raise. This is a little more than just another lobby group, I'm afraid. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Michael Hardner Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: This is a little more than just another lobby group, I'm afraid. How much do they donate to political parties? 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted January 20, 2023 Report Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) I'll continue to ask: if seven of the top 10 political donors of the uS come from Republicans, and they out donate Democrats by hundred million dollars... Does your focus of concern change? Are you really just worried about democrats? All the stuff about wealth and power it's just trimming to make people afraid of the party with fewer donors and less money? Edited January 20, 2023 by Michael Hardner 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
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