Globalist elite are starting another pandemic. Are you ready?

[Queenmandy85]

The title of this thread pre-supposes there is some elite group that runs the world. It used to be the Elders of Zion (Jews), or the Free masons, Communists, or the Tri-lateral Commission, and the silliest of all- the WEF. Now it is the scary "Globalists." It is hard enough to run a municipal council, let alone the world.

As for pandemics, China has been the obstetrics ward for pandemics for thousands of years. Not every pandemic originates in China, (the Spanish Flu started in Kansas and killed more people than the Great War) but with a large population in close proximity to animals, it is favourable for the leap from swine, bats or fowl to humans. Elite groups don't "start pandemics." They happen when a virus jumps from an animal to a human.

[Queenmandy85]

6 minutes ago, sharkman said:

But they didn’t scramble any jets.  Those airliners could have been flown into the White House and nothing would have stopped them.  They could have shot down the airliner that flew into the Pentagon, before it struck, but no jets were scrambled.  

How many interceptors were available?

[Aristides]

Boston ARTCC bypassed standard protocols and directly contacted the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) in Rome, New York.[17] NEADS called on two F-15 fighter jets at Otis Air National Guard Base in Mashpee, Massachusetts, to intercept. Officials at Otis spent a few minutes getting authorization for the fighters to take off.[17] Atta completed the final turn towards Manhattan at 08:43.[27] The order to dispatch the fighters at Otis was given at 08:46, and the F-15s took off at 08:53,[17][35] roughly seven minutes after American Airlines Flight 11 had already crashed into the North Tower. Of the four hijacked aircraft on 9/11, the nine minutes of advance notification about the hijacking of Flight 11 was the most time that NORAD had to respond before the aircraft crashed into its intended target.[47]

 

[Queenmandy85]

The Air Force was alerted to the hijackings at 8:37. The two available F-15 fighters on alert at Otis AFB in Massachusetts scrambled at 8:46 but since the hijackers had turned off the transponders, the airliners location was unknown. The F-15's were 153 miles away from New York. American flight 11 hit the first tower as the F-15's were lifting off the runway. The second plan hit the South tower at 9:03. 

Air traffic control had no training on this kind of emergency. They tried to alert the Air Force at Cape Cod, unaware that station had been shut down. 

American flight 77 was lost on radar when the transponders were turned off at about 8:58. The air traffic controller was unaware of the other hijackings and presumed flight 77 had crashed . The aircraft turned east undetected and flew towards Washington DC. It was not detected again until 9:32 by Dulles controllers. A National Guard pilot flying a C-130 cargo plane spotted it, identifying it as a B-757 passenger plane, and watched it as it crashed into the Pentagon.

Before United flight 93 crashed in Pennsylvania, several passengers were in contact with civilians (family) on the ground. The passengers then attacked the hijackers and the pilot hijacker put the aircraft straight into the ground.

I drew on the 9/11 Commission Report for this information.  I was not aware of Aristides post while I was writing.

 

Edited January 3 by Queenmandy85

[Aristides]

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Those towers were specifically built to withstand jet impacts, so they’re ALWAYS known such a thing is possible

Sure, all buildings are built to withstand 150 tons of aircraft containing 20 tons of kerosene hitting them at 400+ knots.

[sharkman]

29 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Sure, all buildings are built to withstand 150 tons of aircraft containing 20 tons of kerosene hitting them at 400+ knots.

Flat wrong.   First, I did not define what size jet, but here’s  the proof that the WTC towers were designed to within a jet impact.  That means jet impact.  Not fire.  I thought I better explain that to you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_World_Trade_Center

During their investigation into the collapse, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) obtained a three-page white paper that stated the buildings would survive an aircraft-impact of a Boeing 707 or DC 8 flying at 600 mph (970 km/h).

 

Edited January 3 by sharkman

[Aristides]

The towers were supposedly designed to withstand the impact of a B707 at normal cruising speed. The speed limit below 10,000 feet is 250 Kts. Below 2500 feet and within 4.5 nautical miles of an airport it is 200 Kts. Both La Guardia and Newark were within or close to 4.5 miles. This was done in the event of an aircraft being lost or off course in fog. AA 11 was 404 Kts when it hit the tower.

 

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he National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) found a three-page white paper that mentioned another aircraft impact analysis, involving impact of a jet at 600 mph (970 km/h), was indeed considered, but NIST could not locate the documentary evidence of the aircraft impact analysis.^[118]

 

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[sharkman]

8 hours ago, Goddess said:

They're all known.

The list of pedo-island visitors has been published. Victims have been speaking out.

Prince Andrew just  paid off his accuser.

I’m not sure, are they all known?  I’m sure they all breathed a sigh of relief when Epstein conveniently killed himself.  Funny how all the cameras turned off for the critical event, eh?  
 

Edit:  Here’s a shocker.  On Dec 27, the Attorney General for Virgin Islands filed a lawsuit in Manhattan.  It names JP Morgan Chase as having turned a blind eye to Epstein’s sex trafficking.  
 

That same day Joe Biden landed in the Virgin Islands.  Today that Attorney General was fired.  I’m sure it was all just a coincidence.

 

Edited January 3 by sharkman

[Michael Hardner]

6 hours ago, sharkman said:

On September 11, 2001, 19 men armed with box cutters, directed by a man on dialysis in a cave fortress half way around the world using a satellite phone and a laptop, successfully conducted a sophisticated penetration of the most heavy defended airspace in the world.  Overpowering passengers and combat trained pilots, the planes were flown wildly off course for over an hour and no attempts to intercept them were made.  The towers collapsed in on themselves, exactly the same way buildings do when they are brought down on purpose.

Sounds plausible to me.

All true except:They did try to intercept them.

 

What kind of plan would have people crash planes into towers then detonate them? Pure nonsense.

Edited January 3 by Michael Hardner

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, sharkman said:

 

During their investigation into the collapse, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) obtained a three-page white paper that stated the buildings would survive an aircraft-impact of a Boeing 707 or DC 8 flying at 600 mph (970 km/h).

 

Looks like they made a mistake.

Not like you're inclined to trusting scientists are you?

[athos]

 

Globalist elite kill you while they make money off you.

I always feel sad when I see someone really absorb reality. I know how that feels. It's such a betrayal. It's like finding out that your best friend is a criminal. Your entire reality shifts under your feet and you're left with, "What do I do now?" How do you move in a world that's so corrupt? What kind of goals can you set when reality is so corrupt and twisted? It's a feeling of being lost and I don't wish that for anyone. When you awaken, you feel betrayed, and then you hate, then depression because everything you built around you was based on the lies (like any relationship that's over). Once you grieve the death of the old you, the new you grows more powerful than ever before, and fear never crosses your mind because you're ready.

 

 

Edited January 3 by athos

[Contrarian]

9 hours ago, athos said:

Globalist elite

You are persistent in fishing for chameleons and disenfranchised Western men, tovarisch.

Regardless if they are Australian (I see you changed the first message) or Canadian, where you are assigned to write, the ones that agree with you, belong in Russia anyways.

You can keep them, maybe send over some Russian democratic thinkers.

No need to argue and make war, you keep the conspiracy folks and the populists, we take the Navalny war prisoners.

Think about the diversity these western conspiracy folks will bring to the FSB. Maybe they can work with Snowden now that he is a Russian citizen. 

Anyhow, I rather discuss and argue with you, than so called fellow westerners that fall for your superficial messages. At least you do not fall under the definition of a traitor. For your side, you are a patriot, even if I despise what you represent.

Now let me remind you: 

- Russian Federation being lead by 2 former KGB officers. Vladimir Putin and Patriarch Kirill, Judas which reported on fellow parishioners after confessions
- Belarus being lead by an authoritarian
- Communist North Korea
- Communist China
- Islamic Republic of Iran lead by Mullahs
- Central African Republican
- Maybe Saudi Arabia? 

In the West, when we awaken, we change the political side. 

If the above group showed anything is that term limits are a must to ensure the human mind does not get corrupted by power. 

Keep trying to fish. 🎣

Edited January 3 by Contrarian

[Michael Hardner]

A video channel that features Bill Gates but never the Koch Brothers is always suspicious to me.

Who is paying for these to be made ?

The YouTube copy-paste army never asks that, but they claim to know a sheep when they see one, by God...

[sharkman]

On 1/2/2023 at 8:07 PM, Michael Hardner said:

All true except:They did try to intercept them.

 

What kind of plan would have people crash planes into towers then detonate them? Pure nonsense.

Remember, the most heavily defended airspace in the world.  Let them fly around for an hour.  An hour.  Before intercepting them.  I’m surprised that sounds plausible to you.  Not one, but three massive buildings fell to the ground so smoothly, and it looked exactly.  Exactly like demolition.  Why they did it may never be known, but it probably has to do with money.

What kind of plan is the following to you, some kind of evil genius?  There is no way they succeeded without some form of help.

On September 11, 2001, 19 men armed with box cutters, directed by a man on dialysis in a cave fortress half way around the world using a satellite phone and a laptop, successfully conducted a sophisticated penetration of the most heavy defended airspace in the world.  Overpowering passengers and combat trained pilots, the planes were flown wildly off course for over an hour and no attempts to intercept them were made.  The towers collapsed in on themselves, exactly the same way buildings do when they are brought down on purpose.

Sounds plausible to me.

[Michael Hardner]

39 minutes ago, sharkman said:

1. Remember, the most heavily defended airspace in the world.  Let them fly around for an hour.  An hour.  Before intercepting them.  I’m surprised that sounds plausible to you.  

 

2. Not one, but three massive buildings fell to the ground so smoothly, and it looked exactly.  Exactly like demolition.  Why they did it may never be known, but it probably has to do with money.

3. What kind of plan is the following to you, some kind of evil genius?  There is no way they succeeded without some form of help.

 

 

1. It wasn't set up to defend against domestic airliners.  

2. "Looked like"... So ? Is that really a basis for suspecting a giant conspiracy?

3. It's more plausible than the conspiracy theories by far.  They found a hole in the defense plan and exploited it.

 

 

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, sharkman said:

Remember, the most heavily defended airspace in the world.  Let them fly around for an hour.  An hour.  Before intercepting them.  I’m surprised that sounds plausible to you.  Not one, but three massive buildings fell to the ground so smoothly, and it looked exactly.  Exactly like demolition.  Why they did it may never be known, but it probably has to do with money.

What kind of plan is the following to you, some kind of evil genius?  There is no way they succeeded without some form of help.

 

On September 11, 2001, 19 men armed with box cutters, directed by a man on dialysis in a cave fortress half way around the world using a satellite phone and a laptop, successfully conducted a sophisticated penetration of the most heavy defended airspace in the world.  Overpowering passengers and combat trained pilots, the planes were flown wildly off course for over an hour and no attempts to intercept them were made.  The towers collapsed in on themselves, exactly the same way buildings do when they are brought down on purpose.

Sounds plausible to me.

NORAD's function is to defend against threats from outside the country, it isn't set up to monitor domestic air travel. Domestic terrorism is an FBI function. 

[BeaverFever]

Remember in the 1990s when the right’s BIG CONSPIRACY was that the UN was trying to “take over the world” and was secretly controlled by the Russians who were secretly still Communist and had staged a fake collapse of the USSR ?

 

😂

[Michael Hardner]

17 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Remember in the 1990s when the right’s BIG CONSPIRACY was that the UN was trying to “take over the world” and was secretly controlled by the Russians who were secretly still Communist and had staged a fake collapse of the USSR ?

 

😂

No - that's still the big conspiracy...

[athos]

On 1/3/2023 at 9:46 PM, Contrarian said:

You are persistent in fishing for chameleons and disenfranchised Western men, tovarisch.

Regardless if they are Australian (I see you changed the first message) or Canadian, where you are assigned to write, the ones that agree with you, belong in Russia anyways.

You can keep them, maybe send over some Russian democratic thinkers.

No need to argue and make war, you keep the conspiracy folks and the populists, we take the Navalny war prisoners.

Think about the diversity these western conspiracy folks will bring to the FSB. Maybe they can work with Snowden now that he is a Russian citizen. 

Anyhow, I rather discuss and argue with you, than so called fellow westerners that fall for your superficial messages. At least you do not fall under the definition of a traitor. For your side, you are a patriot, even if I despise what you represent.

Now let me remind you: 

- Russian Federation being lead by 2 former KGB officers. Vladimir Putin and Patriarch Kirill, Judas which reported on fellow parishioners after confessions
- Belarus being lead by an authoritarian
- Communist North Korea
- Communist China
- Islamic Republic of Iran lead by Mullahs
- Central African Republican
- Maybe Saudi Arabia? 

In the West, when we awaken, we change the political side. 

If the above group showed anything is that term limits are a must to ensure the human mind does not get corrupted by power. 

Keep trying to fish. 🎣

The best protection from manipulation is to use first principles of common sense logic.

Can you label someone as anti-Semitic who criticizes non-Semites? or to label someone as Anglo fob who is against Chinese?

It seems that in a world of universal deception and moral relativism, any lie can be the truth.

"Who is going to direct our directors and who is going to protect us from our protectors"?

 

Edited January 5 by athos

[Moonbox]

Hello Ivan.  Go back to your handlers and find better material.  This trash isn't landing.  

[Contrarian]

4 hours ago, athos said:

The best protection from manipulation is to use first principles of common sense logic.

Can you label someone as anti-Semitic who criticizes non-Semites? or to label someone as Anglo fob who is against Chinese?

It seems that in a world of universal deception and moral relativism, any lie can be the truth.

"Who is going to direct our directors and who is going to protect us from our protectors"?

Is a shame such messages are coming out of the mouth of someone which probably had parents that fought against Adolf Hitler. Actually, I am not surprised as many educated folk know that Stalin was equal in criminality with Hitler. Stalin enjoyed good marketing after the war because Churchill needed him, dirty politics. If it was up to many, the allies would have gone 1 more stop in Moscow after Berlin. This way in 2022 we would not have this agitation in the world and groups like Wagner hiring trolls (or have fans) in Canada, Australia and all over the world to write 2 cents propaganda. 

When everything fails and you are exposed the last resort is to pull the Jewish topic hoping to also recruit from disenfranchised neo-nazi Western men, tovarisch. The FSB has gone at such low levels, when one promotes the ideas of Prigozhin, a thug with a prison records and no military service. This is the role model of 2022 in Russia. 

---> and let me tell you something else from a different angle:

I see you are also complaining about certain limitations in the West, how people can't talk about the Jewish people just say it directly, something about the English with China. For my part, I consider the Chinese hard working people and a great civilisation, right now they are temporarily under the command of the communist hybrid disease. 

I think you are exaggerating the issue, but even if that were true: White Supremacy lost the war in 1945. When one side loses the war, the winning side puts measure in place to not allow the losing side to rise again. You think if Adolf and his creatures would have won war in 1945 would have allowed everyone to talk whatever they wanted? 😄

You keep trying to fish but the alternative that you propose holds no ground. No legitimacy.

Any reasonable person knows their realistic choices: 

a) Our Western System
b) Russia under Putin and Kirill, 2 former KGB agents, Belarus under an authoritarian, Islamic Republic of Iran under the Mullahs, North Korea under Kim, China under CCP, Central African Republic. 

Where would one have a higher chance to succeed in life? 

Edited January 5 by Contrarian