A new alliance is forming. Trump + Nick Fuentes + "Ye"

[Contrarian]

Former President Trump dined and conversed with white nationalist Nick Fuentes and rapper Ye, formerly known as Kanye West, at his Mar-a-Lago resort on Tuesday night, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

Why it matters: Trump's direct engagement with a man labeled a "white supremacist" by the Justice Department, one week after declaring his 2024 candidacy, is likely to draw renewed outrage over the former president's embrace of extremists.

Source: Axios
https://www.axios.com/2022/11/25/trump-nick-fuentes-ye-kanye

You know, beside this new episode of the circus and laughing material -> I looked over Twitter. This man has 87.7M Followers right now. 

A very famous Chinese curse says: "May you live in interesting times" and we sure are. 

Here they are, los tres mosqueteros: 😂

Edited November 25, 2022 by Contrarian

[Dougie93]

Deus magnus est

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Contrarian said:

Former President Trump dined and conversed with white nationalist Nick Fuentes and rapper Ye, formerly known as Kanye West, at his Mar-a-Lago resort on Tuesday night, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

Why it matters: Trump's direct engagement with a man labeled a "white supremacist" by the Justice Department, one week after declaring his 2024 candidacy, is likely to draw renewed outrage over the former president's embrace of extremists.

Source: Axios
https://www.axios.com/2022/11/25/trump-nick-fuentes-ye-kanye

You know, beside this new episode of the circus and laughing material -> I looked over Twitter just know. This man has 87.7M Followers right now. 

You know a very famous Chinese curse says: "May you live in interesting times" and we sure are. 

Here they are, los tres mosqueteros: 😂

Trump sending a message to his cult that he's still in their corner. Racists and anti-Semites UNITED!

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, Contrarian said:

Former President Trump dined and conversed with white nationalist Nick Fuentes and rapper Ye, formerly known as Kanye West, at his Mar-a-Lago resort on Tuesday night, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

Why it matters: Trump's direct engagement with a man labeled a "white supremacist" by the Justice Department, one week after declaring his 2024 candidacy, is likely to draw renewed outrage over the former president's embrace of extremists.

Source: Axios
https://www.axios.com/2022/11/25/trump-nick-fuentes-ye-kanye

You know, beside this new episode of the circus and laughing material -> I looked over Twitter. This man has 87.7M Followers right now. 

A very famous Chinese curse says: "May you live in interesting times" and we sure are. 

Here they are, los tres mosqueteros: 😂

Aw, the "will they or won't they" throuple of the decade has decided to stop flirting, acknowledge the tension and go steady. 

A white supremacist with a black man and an orange man. What a world.

Edited November 25, 2022 by Hodad

[Contrarian]

8 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Aw, the "will they or won't they" throuple of the decade had decided to stop flirting and go steady. 

A white supremacist with a black man and an orange man. What a world.

He goes to everyone Trump, every client is business for him although I don't think he knew who Fuentes was -> but his advisers must have known. 

This man called in the night before his first election to take votes from Alex Jones followers too. He has no shame.

Then he will come to the moderates and say that he is just trying to maintain the peace between "Ye" &  Fuentes and the rest. 

So -> he is a saviour in a way. 

87.7M followers. What a world. 

I made my prediction, he will be back closer to the Holidays on Twitter.

"For the People" . 😂 and the MSM revenue/free publicity. 

Edited November 25, 2022 by Contrarian

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, Hodad said:

A white supremacist with a black man and an orange man. What a world.

Real dystopia is stranger than any dystopian fiction I ever read.

[Contrarian]

There is one more from the fringes that is missing on top of the trio above. 😂

Here it is: 

Milo Yiannopoulos, who appears with Ye in his "Mar-a-Lago debrief" video, is also in the "YE24" group chat.

A great analysis done by Axios with between the lines information of the event: 

https://www.axios.com/2022/11/25/trump-nick-fuentes-ye-kanye

*This story has been updated with additional reporting. 

Edited November 26, 2022 by Contrarian

[Rebound]

13 hours ago, Contrarian said:

He goes to everyone Trump, every client is business for him although I don't think he knew who Fuentes was -> but his advisers must have known. 

This man called in the night before his first election to take votes from Alex Jones followers too. He has no shame.

Then he will come to the moderates and say that he is just trying to maintain the peace between "Ye" &  Fuentes and the rest. 

So -> he is a saviour in a way. 

87.7M followers. What a world. 

I made my prediction, he will be back closer to the Holidays on Twitter.

"For the People" . 😂 and the MSM revenue/free publicity. 

TRUMP KNEW.

Secret Service background checks every single person before they can come near him. He definitely was told who the guy is.  

[Contrarian]

12 minutes ago, Rebound said:

TRUMP KNEW.

Secret Service background checks every single person before they can come near him. He definitely was told who the guy is.  

Might be true. I don't know. I went by what Axios sources said. 

Trump at one point turned to Ye and said, "I really like this guy. He gets me," according to the source.

"To be honest, I don't believe the president knew who the hell [Fuentes] was," the source added.

Took in consideration the populism on the left now that they are saying "for sure he knew it was him"  + Trump's narcissism which when he is in the middle of a circle of equally narcissistic men he forgets who he talks to. High on the drug of power. 

I don't understand the political move for him to have such a display with Fuentes in public when now on the mainstream right he is getting hammered, so therefore more power to DeSantis. He can't win by stoking a revolution, the FBI is watching every more, first mistake I think the system will clamp down, but that is just my view. 

Edited November 26, 2022 by Contrarian

[Rebound]

25 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Might be true. I don't know. I went by what Axios sources said. 

Trump at one point turned to Ye and said, "I really like this guy. He gets me," according to the source.

"To be honest, I don't believe the president knew who the hell [Fuentes] was," the source added.

Took in consideration the populism on the left now that they are saying "for sure he knew it was him"  + Trump's narcissism which when he is in the middle of a circle of equally narcissistic men he forgets who he talks to. High on the drug of power. 

I don't understand the political move for him to have such a display with Fuentes in public when now on the mainstream right he is getting hammered, so therefore more power to DeSantis. He can't win by stoking a revolution, the FBI is watching every more, first mistake I think the system will clamp down, but that is just my view. 

Bull.  Stop apologizing for Trump. 
The fourth person at the table was a campaign advisor. The man is under lifetime Secret Service protection.  He knew exactly who he was.  
 

If YOU were an advisor to a Presidential campaign, would you sit down to dinner with your candidate and a Nazi and not mention it to your boss? Of course he knew.  There’s no possible way that he did not know. 
 

Don’t fall for the lies of the spin doctors. They’re obviously in damage control mode and it won’t work, because Trump will continue to dog whistle his support for the guy. Trump’s dad was arrested at a KKK rally. That is who the Trumps are.  

Edited November 26, 2022 by Rebound

[Contrarian]

56 minutes ago, Rebound said:

1. Bull.  Stop apologizing for Trump. 
2. The fourth person at the table was a campaign advisor. The man is under lifetime Secret Service protection.  He knew exactly who he was.  
3. If YOU were an advisor to a Presidential campaign, would you sit down to dinner with your candidate and a Nazi and not mention it to your boss? Of course he knew.  There’s no possible way that he did not know. 
4. Don’t fall for the lies of the spin doctors. They’re obviously in damage control mode and it won’t work, because Trump will continue to dog whistle his support for the guy. Trump’s dad was arrested at a KKK rally. That is who the Trumps are.  

1. Left Wing Populism towards someone not holding your immediate conclusion on an event. Not an apology for Trump. 

2. Yes, you are correct, I read the article. Very possible, still don't ask me to fall in line without waiting some time for more reports to come out. 

3. Steve Bannon never mentioned to Trump that he was going to bring those women to accuse Clinton. How do you know what he knew and what he didn't know at that specific time? Do you think Trump knew all about those women too, and their stories? He just sat down and drove the car that his fanatics around him made available. 

4. Axios works for Trump? It was started by a former Politico member and please don't accuse me to fall for the lies of the so called "spin doctors" . I am looking beyond all this, the man has million of followers on Twitter and I see the media has learnt nothing from his previous rise, nothing, nothing, nothing. Same playbook, zero-in on scandals, make it outrageous as possible hoping it will deter voters away.

Obama was right: "The American Media created Trump". 

In one of his biography's lines Trump wrote: "Even bad publicity is good publicity". This is why a narcissist like him in my opinion can survive financially in New York while selling his private life with his multiple affairs. 

Don't blame Musk -> Musk is just delivering a service to what your media is asking for.

Circus and rating disguised under the image of being defenders of Democracy while they are participating in his rise. 

Now, here is where me and you might agree -> Fox News is silent on this reporting, I have not seen one article about this Fuentes Adolph man. Is it because they don't want to provide a platform or maybe Fox News is thinking to leave its options open in case the GOP establishment can not contain populism? 

Edited November 26, 2022 by Contrarian

[Rebound]

48 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

1. Left Wing Populism towards someone not holding your immediate conclusion on an event. Not an apology for Trump. 

2. Yes, you are correct, I read the article. Very possible, still don't ask me to fall in line without waiting some time for more reports to come out. 

3. Steve Bannon never mentioned to Trump that he was going to bring those women to accuse Clinton. How do you know what he knew and what he didn't know at that specific time? Do you think Trump knew all about those women too, and their stories? He just sat down and drove the car that his fanatics around him made available. 

4. Axios works for Trump? It was started by a former Politico member and please don't accuse me to fall for the lies of the so called "spin doctors" . I am looking beyond all this, the man has million of followers on Twitter and I see the media has learnt nothing from his previous rise, nothing, nothing, nothing. Same playbook, zero-in on scandals, make it outrageous as possible hoping it will deter voters away.

Obama was right: "The American Media created Trump". 

In one of his biography's lines Trump wrote: "Even bad publicity is good publicity". This is why a narcissist like him in my opinion can survive financially in New York while selling his private life with his multiple affairs. 

Don't blame Musk -> Musk is just delivering a service to what your media is asking for.

Circus and rating disguised under the image of being defenders of Democracy while they are participating in his rise. 

Now, here is where me and you might agree -> Fox News is silent on this reporting, I have not seen one article about this Fuentes Adolph man. Is it because they don't want to provide a platform or maybe Fox News is thinking to leave its options open in case the GOP establishment can not contain populism? 

How many more times are you going to accept his unacceptable behavior? 

It was ok when he had protesters tear-gassed so he could have a photo op?

It was ok when he told the Proud Boys to “stand by”?

It was ok when he refused to peacefully accept his election loss?

It was ok when he sat in the White House for three hours while the US Capitol was being violently attacked on his behalf?  
 

You are not at all being a moderate, balanced voice. If the damn Nazis start rounding people up and killing them, will you keep being a “moderate, balanced voice”? When is it ever enough for you? 
 

There is no middle ground in this. Either you can plainly see that this is wrong, or you’re accepting abhorrent, and often illegal, behavior.  

Edited November 26, 2022 by Rebound

[Contrarian]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

1. How many more times are you going to accept his unacceptable behavior? 
2. It was ok when he told the Proud Boys to “stand by”?
3. It was ok when he refused to peacefully accept his election loss?
4. It was ok when he sat in the White House for three hours while the US Capitol was being violently attacked on his behalf?  
5. You are not at all being a moderate, balanced voice. If the damn Nazis start rounding people up and killing them, will you keep being a “moderate, balanced voice”? When is it ever enough for you? 

1. Never did. I ridicule the man through a different style every time I get the opportunity, and what control do I really have? Is the duty of the American society to flush such an individual from the political sphere. 

2. No, i believe the system placed several in prison, even prior to Jan 6th, the leader of the Proud boys was arrested by the FBI, not by a left wing guerrilla movement. After, well, I showed your friend, the system's work: 

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/capitol-violence

3. No, the fact that such a man is being promoted by your society, in a sane society, a man like him would not get 5 minutes on prime television. Yet after all that, he still gets attention. 

4. No, also constantly promoting this documentary: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0

5. The last part is just a rage from you -> not understanding that one can be against Trump, populism, fascism, nazis, neo-nazis, white supremacy, the nazis in Europe, other right wing populist chameleons, etc, etc, but also not necessarily on your side with every point.

---> What is the difference between what you are doing, and a Trump supporter calling me disloyal for not going along with his exact program? Please. Do you want reform on the right wing spectrum or submit a left wing guerrilla to make order?

If you want reform and moderation, why don't you let the FBI, intelligence community and the law system to do their job? They are doing great so far, and I don't think they are done is one opinion from the north. 

Edited November 26, 2022 by Contrarian

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, Rebound said:

Bull.  Stop apologizing for Trump. 
The fourth person at the table was a campaign advisor. The man is under lifetime Secret Service protection.  He knew exactly who he was.  
 

If YOU were an advisor to a Presidential campaign, would you sit down to dinner with your candidate and a Nazi and not mention it to your boss? Of course he knew.  There’s no possible way that he did not know. 
 

Don’t fall for the lies of the spin doctors. They’re obviously in damage control mode and it won’t work, because Trump will continue to dog whistle his support for the guy. Trump’s dad was arrested at a KKK rally. That is who the Trumps are.  

Of course Trump OFTEN pretends to not "know" embarrassing acquaintances. Just like he pretended to not know who David Duke was.

"I don't know anything about David Duke."

Donald Trump's absurd claim that he knows nothing about former KKK leader David Duke

Quote

"Well, just so you understand, I don't know anything about David Duke. okay? I don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. So, I don't know.

"I don't know, did he endorse me or what's going on, because, you know, I know nothing about David Duke. I know nothing about white supremacists. And so you're asking me a question that I'm supposed to be talking about people that I know nothing about. …

"I don't know any -- honestly, I don't know David Duke. I don't believe I have ever met him. I'm pretty sure I didn't meet him. And I just don't know anything about him."

....

Fifteen years ago, when Trump was flirting with a White House bid as a Reform Party candidate, he named Duke as a cause of concern at least three times.

 

[Aristides]

Might as well get all the white supremacists and anti semites in the same room. Easier to keep track of.

[Contrarian]

22 hours ago, Contrarian said:

1 Picture is missing to complete the new team, not sure if he was at the dinner or not. 

Don't worry, is not Kanye "Ye" again, is the third person, one Mr. Yiannopoulos: 

Alex Jones was missing and what a A++ team this would be. 

however, there was tension: 

Describing the event to Milo Yiannopoulos, a far-right provocateur who he hired to help with his campaign, West said that he also asked Trump to be his running mate in 2024, and said that Trump was “screaming” at him during the dinner, and that the former president called his ex-wife profanities.

“When Trump started basically screaming at me at the table, telling me I was going to lose. I mean, has that ever worked for anyone in history? I’m like, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on Trump, you’re talking to Ye,” West said.

and more details: 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/25/trump-white-nationalist-nick-fuentes-kanye-00070825

Edited November 26, 2022 by Contrarian

[Contrarian]

14 hours ago, Contrarian said:

however, there was tension: 

Describing the event to Milo Yiannopoulos, a far-right provocateur who he hired to help with his campaign, West said that he also asked Trump to be his running mate in 2024, and said that Trump was “screaming” at him during the dinner, and that the former president called his ex-wife profanities.

“When Trump started basically screaming at me at the table, telling me I was going to lose. I mean, has that ever worked for anyone in history? I’m like, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on Trump, you’re talking to Ye,” West said.

and more details: 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/25/trump-white-nationalist-nick-fuentes-kanye-00070825

and more tension on the far right circus after the dinner:

The food was not good or what? 😅

"Trump and MTG (Marjorie Taylor Green) are being used as bait to lure the base back into supporting people like Kevin McCarthy, Ronna McDaniel, and Rick Grenell. I didn't leave the MAGA movement. The MAGA movement left me."

- Fuentes, the new diverse face of this neo-nazi movement.

https://www.newsweek.com/nick-fuentes-turns-donald-trump-calls-new-2024-candidate-holocaust-denier-1762519

Edited November 27, 2022 by Contrarian

[Michael Hardner]

Is this circus even considered politics?

[Contrarian]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Is this circus even considered politics?

And here comes the latest episode: 

Trump calls Kanye West ‘seriously troubled man, who just happens to be black’ amid fallout over dinner. 

Efforts to distance himself from dinner increase as he takes fire from the right in the US. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-kanye-west-dinner-troubled-man-b2233912.html

[Legato]

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Is this circus even considered politics?

It gets $millions from Trump's cult, so that's all that matters.

[Rebound]

On 11/26/2022 at 10:19 AM, Contrarian said:

1. Never did. I ridicule the man through a different style every time I get the opportunity, and what control do I really have? Is the duty of the American society to flush such an individual from the political sphere. 

2. No, i believe the system placed several in prison, even prior to Jan 6th, the leader of the Proud boys was arrested by the FBI, not by a left wing guerrilla movement. After, well, I showed your friend, the system's work: 

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/capitol-violence

3. No, the fact that such a man is being promoted by your society, in a sane society, a man like him would not get 5 minutes on prime television. Yet after all that, he still gets attention. 

4. No, also constantly promoting this documentary: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0

5. The last part is just a rage from you -> not understanding that one can be against Trump, populism, fascism, nazis, neo-nazis, white supremacy, the nazis in Europe, other right wing populist chameleons, etc, etc, but also not necessarily on your side with every point.

---> What is the difference between what you are doing, and a Trump supporter calling me disloyal for not going along with his exact program? Please. Do you want reform on the right wing spectrum or submit a left wing guerrilla to make order?

If you want reform and moderation, why don't you let the FBI, intelligence community and the law system to do their job? They are doing great so far, and I don't think they are done is one opinion from the north. 

Ok, I understand you now.  

[Rebound]

22 hours ago, Contrarian said:

And here comes the latest episode: 

Trump calls Kanye West ‘seriously troubled man, who just happens to be black’ amid fallout over dinner. 

Efforts to distance himself from dinner increase as he takes fire from the right in the US. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-kanye-west-dinner-troubled-man-b2233912.html

More like, “Kanye West is a white supremacist who just happens to be black.”

[Contrarian]

On 11/26/2022 at 3:21 PM, Contrarian said:

1 Picture is missing to complete the new team, not sure if he was at the dinner or not. 

Don't worry, is not Kanye "Ye" again, is the third person, one Mr. Yiannopoulos: 

Alex Jones was missing and what a A++ team this would be. 

The "dream" team is complete now. 🤣

This is Fuentes & Ye on Alex's Jones voicing support for Russia and Vladimir Putin. 

What tolerable lands are these North American lands so chameleons can play this circus. Price of democracy I guess.

My intuition is -> a few people in that studio, in a few years might end up in a prison cell. Or the nut house.  

Edited December 1, 2022 by Contrarian

[robosmith]

20 hours ago, Contrarian said:

The "dream" team is complete now. 🤣

This is Fuentes & Ye on Alex's Jones voicing support for Russia and Vladimir Putin. 

What tolerable lands are these North American lands so chameleons can play this circus. Price of democracy I guess.

My intuition is -> a few people in that studio, in a few years might end up in a prison cell. Or the nut house.  

Can't believe you missed Ye proclaiming his love for Nazis. 🤮