Ontario's top doctor "strongly" recommends masking indoors

[Contrarian]

Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Kieran Moore is now ‘strongly recommending’ that Ontarians resume masking in all public indoor settings amid what he is calling a “triple threat” of respiratory viruses – RSV, flu and COVID-19.

But he is stopping short of reintroducing a mask mandate for now and instead placing the onus on individuals to do their part to protect the most vulnerable among us.

He is also calling on Ontarians to get their flu shots and take other precautions, such as screening for respiratory symptoms before attending work or school and practicing good hand hygiene.

(Trending via the website CP24). 

https://www.cp24.com/news/ontarians-are-now-being-asked-to-resume-masking-indoors-here-is-what-you-need-to-know-about-when-to-mask-up-1.6151932

Edited November 14, 2022 by Contrarian

[Boges]

This is not the crowd to have a lively debate about this. 

I'm sure a vast majority of posters on this site are sick of COVID measures. 

I was an advocate for some lockdowns and vaccines during COVID, but this is too much. We're not even talking about COVID, it's Cold and Flu in children. Children who have had their exposure to viruses completes stunted over the last two years. 

Edited November 14, 2022 by Boges

[Contrarian]

5 minutes ago, Boges said:

I'm sure a vast majority of posters on this site, are sick of COVID measures. 

Yah, me included. I don't agree with the cultism that is rising on the other side. 

I posted this before, this is how the "enforcement" crowd is becoming: 

[TreeBeard]

I like how Japan and S. Korea handle masks…. They know it helps, so most people do it.  Not sure why it’s so difficult or controversial. 

[Dougie93]

Canada is a bottomless pit of hysterical moral panic

[OftenWrong]

Moore is a coward, and he knows it.

Take a look at the situation around us now, you covid fanatics. This is the outcome of our policies. This is our fault. Specifically the fault of our government and their so-called health experts, Doctors Tam and Moore. And now they want to take the children further down the dead-end road they've put them on.

Edited November 15, 2022 by OftenWrong

[herbie]

It's because of the hospitals being overcrowded, and it's absolutely the least thing you can do to help.

Diseases don't go away because you're sick of hearing about them. If you won't even do the least you can about something don't bother to offer that opinion to others.

[OftenWrong]

5 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

I like how Japan and S. Korea handle masks…. They know it helps, so most people do it.  Not sure why it’s so difficult or controversial. 

You want to follow totalitarian Asian society over a cliff, go right ahead. I'll go with the UK, who removed their mandates months before Canada and most other nations. They are not reporting this huge outbreak in children's RSV.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health
https://www.bbc.com/news/coronavirus

Fill your boots.

And while you people are distracted by debilitating Covid fear, no one will address the real problem- a lack of care beds, and a lack of medicine.

 

[OftenWrong]

5 minutes ago, herbie said:

It's because of the hospitals being overcrowded, and it's absolutely the least thing you can do to help.

Help? It could also be harmful. Unprecedented outbreak of disease amongst children following a two-year unprecedented masking and isolation campaign.

During that time their immune system did not get the low-level exposure that is needed to maintain immune health, as per natural immunity.

 

[Contrarian]

19 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

You want to follow totalitarian Asian society over a cliff, go right ahead.

Japan and South Korea have open societies. I believe the mask wearing there it is cultural. That is how they are raised to show respect for the elderly. Mask wearing was common even before the Covid-19 pandemic hit. 

@TreeBeardWhen someone is raised with this, of course is easier to implement it. To implement this in the West, people might react differently, especially when is back and forth in my view. 

For me, where there are crowds/public transit, I will wear a mask for the minutes that I am there, not a crowds person anyhow, but please don't ask me to wear a mask in the car, or in an office setting if I have my own space. How about when I go and pick-up my food outside if Uber drops it? should I go out with a mask even if the gentleman that delivered is not there? maybe someone pop-ups from the corner?  

Edited November 14, 2022 by Contrarian

[OftenWrong]

25 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Japan and South Korea have open societies. I believe the mask wearing there it is cultural. That is how they are raised to show respect for the elderly. Mask wearing was common even before the Covid-19 pandemic hit. 

@TreeBeardWhen someone is raised with this, of course is easier to implement it. To implement this in the West, people might react differently, especially when is back and forth in my view. 

For me, where there are crowds/public transit, I will wear a mask for the minutes that I am there, not a crowds person anyhow, but please don't ask me to wear a mask in the car, or in an office setting if I have my own space. How about when I go and pick-up my food outside if Uber drops it? should I go out with a mask even if the gentleman that delivered is not there? maybe someone pop-ups from the corner?  

Obviously I am talking about those countries who follow a zero-covid policy.

Now get back in your cage.

[Contrarian]

23 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Now get back in your cage.

Some people think they are free and are still in cages. Is just a state of mind, depending on how you look at it. Who is really free?!

Edited November 15, 2022 by Contrarian

[OftenWrong]

49 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Some people think they are free and are still in cages. Is just a state of mind, depending on how you look at it. Who is really free?!

Esoteric. In this case I'll stick with the British. The bastion of liberty and progress, and with the best medical universities in the world. 

[OftenWrong]

Here's what should happen to Ontario's "top" doctor. The same fate as Hinshaw.

Hinshaw fired as Alberta’s chief medical health officer

Let her be only the first of these types to fall. But they won't, because Doug Ford is an ignorant coward also.

[herbie]

Change your name to alwayswrong FFS, you're just never going to "get it" about S.F.A. ever.

[Zeitgeist]

I strongly recommend that shrill Marxist-Nihilist activists stuff a sock in their mouths, but I wouldn’t mandate it at this point.  We’re monitoring the situation closely.

[OftenWrong]

33 minutes ago, herbie said:

Change your name to alwayswrong FFS, you're just never going to "get it" about S.F.A. ever.

That's ok little herbie. You can still wear a mask and cower in your safe space, whenever big strong men are around.

 

[West]

Ramping up the propaganda again.. pretty disgusting

[eyeball]

14 hours ago, Boges said:

I was an advocate for some lockdowns and vaccines during COVID, but this is too much. We're not even talking about COVID, it's Cold and Flu in children. Children who have had their exposure to viruses completes stunted over the last two years. 

I'm pretty sure we're talking about protecting our health system again.

Apparently the reason why that's important didn't sink in the first time.  Now we have an added reason, it's on the verge of complete collapse.

Anyway, I'm masking up for the simple sake of social courtesy.

[Contrarian]

7 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

We’re monitoring the situation closely.

I just got up and will skip coffee today, instead I will answer to you: 😎

"We" have no power. Your just a man on a forum, not part of a revolution. The parallel force that you claim to be part of was defeated in Ottawa. 

There is truth in that the ways of defeating this force might have been with the government flexing their muscles (EA/freezing bank accounts), hey, but this is why we have a legal hearing in place which is happening now. I think you know what CSIS said yesterday. Then there is elections, Ontario spoke already, soon they will speak at a federal level with conservatives assuming leadership. 

Don't you like our system? This is why I came here for. To penalise politicians via the vote.  Of course you don't, maybe you want to implement a military court probably, with Goddess as the judge so she can repeat daily: "No Amnesty", "No Amnesty" and march people for some jail time that you perceive to be Stalinist agents? Is just a theory. If only you had the power, the world would be a perfect place. 

But on a serious note, I tried going through @Goddess thread and still read what is there, some information might be/is useful, but is hard for it to stick in my mind, when the other comments talk about doomsday, Nazis, equating the party in Ottawa with the Romanian revolutionaries/Jewish people struggles, communists doctors, etc, etc, etc. There is work to be done on your marketing, is same in business.

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Until then -> my decision, as I can only control myself, I will wear masks in crowded places for a few minutes when I use the public transit, if they "mandate" it at work while doing the work (includes outside buildings too), then maybe I will ask again to work from home only. If working from home is N/A, then refocus. Maybe will post here even more, for free, to annoy you with mainstream links. 😁

Edited November 15, 2022 by Contrarian

[Nationalist]

18 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

I like how Japan and S. Korea handle masks…. They know it helps, so most people do it.  Not sure why it’s so difficult or controversial. 

So move there and leave normal folks alone.

As for me and those stupid masks...

NOT EVEN ON A COLD DAY IN HELL!!!

Edited November 15, 2022 by Nationalist

[Zeitgeist]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

I'm pretty sure we're talking about protecting our health system again.

Apparently the reason why that's important didn't sink in the first time.  Now we have an added reason, it's on the verge of complete collapse.

Anyway, I'm masking up for the simple sake of social courtesy.

Masking has removed our natural immunity and turned us into fearful twits.  So what now, put the population in masks every flu season?   This is irrational and hysterical behaviour.  I have no interest pretending that masking is somehow safeguarding our dysfunctional “overwhelmed healthcare system”.  It’s like deciding that the easiest way to solve crime is to take away everything from everyone so there’s nothing to steal.  Canada is now always the first western country to use oppressive measures as the go to solution for solving poorly managed institutions and services.

This government is grossly incompetent on passports, Nexus, oil and gas development, natural resources, overspending and inflation, carbon taxes and the green economy… You want to make people wear masks?  Wear your own damn masks.  Wear four at once.  Wear a visor.  

Edited November 15, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Zeitgeist]

3 hours ago, Contrarian said:

I just got up and will skip coffee today, instead I will answer to you: 😎

"We" have no power. Your just a man on a forum, not part of a revolution. The parallel force that you claim to be part of was defeated in Ottawa. 

There is truth in that the ways of defeating this force might have been with the government flexing their muscles (EA/freezing bank accounts), hey, but this is why we have a legal hearing in place which is happening now. I think you know what CSIS said yesterday. Then there is elections, Ontario spoke already, soon they will speak at a federal level with conservatives assuming leadership. 

Don't you like our system? This is why I came here for. To penalise politicians via the vote.  Of course you don't, maybe you want to implement a military court probably, with Goddess as the judge so she can repeat daily: "No Amnesty", "No Amnesty" and march people for some jail time that you perceive to be Stalinist agents? Is just a theory. If only you had the power, the world would be a perfect place. 

But on a serious note, I tried going through @Goddess thread and still read what is there, some information might be/is useful, but is hard for it to stick in my mind, when the other comments talk about doomsday, Nazis, equating the party in Ottawa with the Romanian revolutionaries/Jewish people struggles, communists doctors, etc, etc, etc. There is work to be done on your marketing, is same in business.

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Until then -> my decision, as I can only control myself, I will wear masks in crowded places for a few minutes when I use the public transit, if they "mandate" it at work while doing the work (includes outside buildings too), then maybe I will ask again to work from home only. If working from home is N/A, then refocus. Maybe will post here even more, for free, to annoy you with mainstream links. 😁

Why not move to China with homicidal Eyeball?  Really safe there.  Very compliant population.  Then again, Canada resembles China more every day, so just join the Liberal party instead.

[Contrarian]

28 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Why not move to China

Can guarantee you, if I would have been in China it would have been a different story, probably in the streets to protest.

I might be wrong but the difference between rights and responsibility -> I know. You just have not seen a real oppressive system that's all or the effects of it directly. 

and Chinese people are not obedient, as this breaking news is showing, brought to you by Sky News: 

China's zero-COVID rules spark violent protests in Guangzhou

Protesters have clashed with police in China's industrial metropolis Guangzhou over strict COVID-19 measures, which have seen residents placed in lock down.

https://news.sky.com/story/chinas-zero-covid-rules-spark-violent-protests-in-guangzhou-12748053

Edited November 15, 2022 by Contrarian

[Boges]

14 hours ago, herbie said:

It's because of the hospitals being overcrowded, and it's absolutely the least thing you can do to help.

Diseases don't go away because you're sick of hearing about them. If you won't even do the least you can about something don't bother to offer that opinion to others.

Diseases like this don't go away, full stop. 

I'm not even sure in these instances if masking will do much, because in most cases we're talking about kids who won't wear the mask properly anyway. 

Lockdowns have proven effective at lowering Hospitalization but with a myriad of other consequences that no one wants anymore.