The Elon Musk Movement = )

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Yes, conspiracy theories. YOUR theory that someone like me who criticizes Musk must be on Twitter (afraid of losing a megaphone).

Have you already forgotten YOUR posted theory? LMAO

 

That's urgent great conspiracy theory? That I figured you are on Twitter? Hilarious 

[robosmith]

26 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

That's urgent great conspiracy theory? That I figured you are on Twitter? Hilarious 

^Your STRAWMAN: I never said it is urgent OR great. It is however YOUR conspiracy theory. AKA, FALSE.

[Infidel Dog]

5 hours ago, Hodad said:

Of course calling hypocrisy hypocrisy isn't question begging. But arguing that a certain viewpoint is hypocrisy by assuming the hypocrisy in the premise of the argument is *exactly* what it means to beg the question. 

It would be if that was what happened but it wasn't. As it is your statement is begging the question. It assumes a truth that isn't there.

By reason and definition I proved to anybody who paid attention or had attention to give that the hypocrisy was there, blatantly, objectively, obviously. It's not an assumption when it's a proven fact.

I think this might have to with the prog inability to observe the obvious. How do they train that into you guys anyway? It's almost religious in its indoctrination.

Edited December 22, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[Contrarian]

Elon Musk said on Monday that SpaceX has now close to having 100 active Starlinks, the firm’s satellite internet service, in Iran, three months after he tweeted he would activate the service there amid protests around the Islamic country.

Musk said, “approaching 100 starlinks active in Iran”, in a tweet on Monday.

@CITIZEN_2015

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/international-business/article-elon-musk-says-around-100-starlinks-now-active-in-iran/

Edited December 26, 2022 by Contrarian

[Goddess]

On 12/5/2022 at 12:37 PM, Hodad said:

You mean, except those Furin cleavage sites that occur naturally in coronaviruses? 

Here's a guy who can explain it better than you or I can:

 

[Rebound]

On 12/22/2022 at 12:01 AM, Infidel Dog said:

It would be if that was what happened but it wasn't. As it is your statement is begging the question. It assumes a truth that isn't there.

By reason and definition I proved to anybody who paid attention or had attention to give that the hypocrisy was there, blatantly, objectively, obviously. It's not an assumption when it's a proven fact.

I think this might have to with the prog inability to observe the obvious. How do they train that into you guys anyway? It's almost religious in its indoctrination.

What’s wrong with religion?

[sharkman]

Let’s face it folks.  Elon Musk has shown that almost every conspiracy theory regarding Twitter is true.

The question is, are you naive enough to think that Twitter was the only platform that was doing it.

[Contrarian]

Elon Musk taunted incendiary influencer and alleged sex trafficker Andrew Tate.

“Sometimes it’s just better to make pizza at home,” the Twitter boss tweeted on New Year’s Eve.

--> Romanian police however did specify the pizza had no role in this though, as the men were under surveillance for a longer time. 

---> A theory which is popular now is that Romanian police got pissed off with his social media postings. It was an insult to their work to watch a criminal in their own country assuming this role of an internet guru. 

He is a guru now, in prison. He can preach there all he wants, Romanian bail i heard is hard to get. 

---> As for the theory that Greta somehow told Romanian authorities what to do, I can tell you Westerns such as Greta's team are not that popular either there, all you have to do is translate a comment's page. 

A long prison term awaits them. Romania is not North Korea, they will be allowed letters. 😃

Edited January 2 by Contrarian

[Contrarian]

Twitter reverses longstanding ban on political advertising.

(The Washington Post). 

Edited January 4 by Contrarian

[Contrarian]

Elon Musk says Kevin McCarthy should be Speaker. 

(Twitter).

 

[Contrarian]

Elon Musk has urged a federal judge to shift a trial in a shareholder lawsuit out of San Francisco because he says negative local media coverage has biased potential jurors against him.

(ABC News)

[sharkman]

On 1/5/2023 at 5:00 AM, Contrarian said:

Elon Musk says Kevin McCarthy should be Speaker. 

(Twitter).

 

“Let’s face it folks.  Elon Musk has shown that almost every conspiracy theory regarding Twitter is true.

The question is, are you naive enough to think that Twitter was the only platform that was doing it.”

Edited January 8 by sharkman

[Contrarian]

2 hours ago, sharkman said:

“Let’s face it folks.  Elon Musk has shown that almost every conspiracy theory regarding Twitter is true.

The question is, are you naive enough to think that Twitter was the only platform that was doing it.”

 

so what is the bottom line? Trump was supposed to be President and therefore we shall have the elections again?

That is what he was raging a few weeks ago on his social media. Did you get the e-mail late with the main points?

This is old news.

= )

Edited January 8 by Contrarian

[sharkman]

41 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

so what is the bottom line? Trump was supposed to be President and therefore we shall have the elections again?

That is what he was raging a few weeks ago on his social media. Did you get the e-mail late with the main points?

This is old news.

= )

It’s strange how you won’t simply address the subject matter of mine that you quoted.

Twitter was suppressing and censoring conservatives, and they weren’t the only ones doing it.  You should be alarmed at how eerily similar this is to communist governments.

in fact, I am puzzled as to how you fled a communist country back in the day, yet won’t decry this Twitter censorship which is what Russia and China are currently doing to their ciizenry.

Sometimes a an issue is black and white.  Quit making everything about Trump, this is much larger than who’s in the White House.

[Contrarian]

7 minutes ago, sharkman said:

It’s strange how you won’t simply address the subject matter of mine that you quoted.

Twitter was suppressing and censoring conservatives, and they weren’t the only ones doing it.  You should be alarmed at how eerily similar this is to communist governments.

in fact, I am puzzled as to how you fled a communist country back in the day, yet won’t decry this Twitter censorship which is what Russia and China are currently doing to their ciizenry.

Sometimes a an issue is black and white.  Quit making everything about Trump, this is much larger than who’s in the White House.

What do you mean I did not decry it? I was the first one here to post the links when the first Tweets leaks were going live by Musk. 

You mean decry it, your way? go into deep conspiracies about the one world government? 

I will decry it my way and stay on reasonable terrain. Power structure has changed at Twitter, Musk is tweeting for people to vote Republican. You like that? If Jack Dorsey was tweeting (He probably did, I don't know) for people to vote Democrat what would you have said then? 

Edited January 9 by Contrarian

[sharkman]

2 hours ago, Contrarian said:

What do you mean I did not decry it? I was the first one here to post the links when the first Tweets leaks were going live by Musk. 

You mean decry it, your way? go into deep conspiracies about the one world government? 

I will decry it my way and stay on reasonable terrain. Power structure has changed at Twitter, Musk is tweeting for people to vote Republican. You like that? If Jack Dorsey was tweeting (He probably did, I don't know) for people to vote Democrat what would you have said then? 

Okay, I’ll try again.

You quoted my post.  You quoted my post, that means you address the subject matter that you quote.  

Also, prior to my post today in this thread, you were talking to yourself all last week, with 4 posts in a row from you.  What’s that all about, are you trying to keep this thread bumped up to the top, or are you simply trying to run up your post count?

Other than that, the majority of your posts on this forum are attacking conservative issues, Trump and Trump allies(Trump is a through and through capitalist, a pro democracy/freedom defender), and the like.

Thats how a communist thinks, I guess old habits die hard.  Keep up the good work, comrade contrarian.

 

[Contrarian]

1 hour ago, sharkman said:

Also, prior to my post today in this thread, you were talking to yourself all last week, with 4 posts in a row from you.  What’s that all about, are you trying to keep this thread bumped up to the top, or are you simply trying to run up your post count?

😄 😄 😄 😄 😄 😄

You are so far gone the void that you honestly think I am here for an ulterior motive, I seen the other day you were accusing another member of having business relations with the admin. 

Yes, I post updates to every thread when new information comes and will keep doing it daily, granted new information, I know who the current chancellor of Germany is, I know I don't have secret sources inside the CIA/FBI and I do not use such fake agents/reports to post propaganda, lies and to fit my own narrow minded twisted view of the world. "insider at the CIA says" 🤣

The above is you, in case you are confused old sport. 

and let me tell you about old habits die hard, you know what the difference between you, a native born spoiled populist and me?

I know what freedom is about because I had it taken away. You have no idea what you are talking about, brat. You enjoyed comfort your entire life here with no worry for food the next day and you talk about people that ran away from communism. The nerve.

By the way -> with your type of mind and your ability to follow a man (Trump), under communism, rest assured you would be at the top, a member of the party, they like people like you, feeble minds. 

---> Also most of your posts here are asking for "the people" to rise up against a perceived "elite" so in a way you are talking like Lenin, you are the communist. 😄

Edited January 9 by Contrarian

[Aristides]

Tesla drops US and European prices up to 20%

 

The shine seems to be off Tesla.

Musk buying Twitter may go down as one of the worst business decisions ever.

Edited January 13 by Aristides

[Contrarian]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Musk buying Twitter may go down as one of the worst business decisions ever.

Do you want Jack Dorsey and the team back at Twitter? 

He was closer to being a real "comrade" if you ask me. 

Jack's team to the government:   "Handled."

---> Short term damages with Tesla, I think is too early to tell how buying Twitter turned up. 

Edited January 13 by Contrarian

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Tesla drops US and European prices up to 20%

 

The shine seems to be off Tesla.

Musk buying Twitter may go down as one of the worst business decisions ever.

Tesla’s market capitalization has fallen by over 66% this year.  That’s a LOT of lost wealth, from over $1 trillion to $384 billion.  That impacts a business’ operation dramatically.  

[Rebound]

3 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Do you want Jack Dorsey and the team back at Twitter? 

He was closer to being a real "comrade" if you ask me. 

Jack's team to the government:   "Handled."

What is your opinion?

I don’t think that promoting objectively falsehoods as facts benefits anyone.  We say that big social media has a responsibility, and if they permit hostile foreign governments such as North Korea, China and Russia, for example, to disguise themselves and widely promote falsehoods, is that a benefit to America? 
 

Does the right to free speech extend to concealing your identity for the purpose of spreading objective lies? 

[Contrarian]

16 minutes ago, Rebound said:

What is your opinion?

1. I don’t think that promoting objectively falsehoods as facts benefits anyone.  We say that big social media has a responsibility, and if they permit hostile foreign governments such as North Korea, China and Russia, for example, to disguise themselves and widely promote falsehoods, is that a benefit to America? 
 

Does the right to free speech extend to concealing your identity for the purpose of spreading objective lies? 

Not sure what the last sentence means but I will give you an example which describes my opinion and thinking: 

While a column of Russian cars was going around Berlin in Germany to support criminal Putin, a lot of people were infuriated how can we have such garbage in 2022, when someone invades another country like hordes from medieval times invaded, how do we allow such people to drive around with the Russian flag in Berlin? 

Someone's response was brilliant: 

They said, it is a small price to pay in democracy, to put up with people that we don't agree with. Debate them yes, laugh at them yes, but don't shut them down. And you know, I am double vaccinated, but lots of things in science were believed certain way at one point, and later were found out opposite. Sometimes science is to question science. 

Granted, some people go all in and into Q, conspiracy theories, extremism, being paranoid that Soros controls the world, but I'm sorry if you can't filter data enough and want to listen only to Twitter doctors, the person making the decision has some responsibility too. 

For more serious cases, this is why there is an intelligence service to watch over such things, to not allow foreign enemies such as Russia or China to manipulate the information. 

My main critique is towards the answer that the former Twitter employee provided to the government: "Handled". Who talks like that? 

Your country should not be like China in my opinion to have the politicians dictate over the tech sector.

Edited January 13 by Contrarian

[robosmith]

What the Twitter Files Reveal About Free Speech and Social Media

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The Twitter Files, a serial investigation into the way the company has managed sensitive public issues, commissioned by its new owner, Elon Musk. Not long after Musk bought Twitter, in October, he reached out to a few prominent journalists, each of them at least broadly sympathetic to Musk’s view that Twitter’s past moderation decisions reflected its own entrenchment in the liberal establishment, and were therefore effectively suppressing conservative and other dissenting views.

If the problem were a runaway progressive corporate culture, then it should have ended with Musk’s takeover. The billionaire came in, late last fall, with guns blazing: Twitter’s internal bureaucracy was going down. Agrawal, Roth, and Gadde were all out; he fired half its staff and started making decisions with a “war room” of a half-dozen longtime allies and friends. But pretty quickly the Musk experience, which began with promises of a less censorious approach to speech and a more robust public square, turned hypocritical. Musk tweeted an excerpt of an academic paper of Roth’s that concerned underage access to apps like Grindr; a wave of threats accusing Roth of being a “pedo” forced the former Twitter executive and his husband to flee their home. Not only did Musk suspend a Twitter account, operated by a college student, that published public data tracking Musk’s private plane; he also briefly suspended the accounts of a half-dozen or so journalists who reported on the suspension. This week, the billionaire publicized a new edition of the Twitter Files, by the covid-conspiracist journalist Alex Berenson. This installment focussed on the efforts of a prominent public doctor, Scott Gottlieb, to lobby Twitter to limit anti-vaccine propaganda. Musk tweeted about the series, “Some conspiracies are actually true.” Even if you believe—and I don’t—that Musk took a progressive thumb off the scale when he acquired the company, all he has done since is stick his own thumb—bigger and clumsier—on it.

Musk could have made different choices. He could have opened the files to more journalists, with broader perspectives, rather than a group that largely shared his view. They, in turn, could have taken the time to write as investigative reporters rather than commentators, and might have begun with material other than the company’s response to the Hunter Biden story—a preoccupation of Republican politicians but far from the most compelling element of the archives. Rather than try to handle suspensions with a small group of allies, Musk might have appointed an independent body to assess such sensitive matters. The choices Musk did make suggest another aim—not neutrality, but counterbalance. If progressive ideas had been too amplified, he would now amplify conservative ones. Everything in the Twitter Files has had this see-saw quality, in which the only response to excessive partisanship is partisanship on the other side. In this way, the Twitter Files have been trapped in the style of Twitter itself. 

[Contrarian]

On 1/13/2023 at 10:26 AM, Aristides said:

Tesla drops US and European prices up to 20%

 

The shine seems to be off Tesla.

Musk buying Twitter may go down as one of the worst business decisions ever.

You are thinking short term because you don't like him. 

But now, a few more days after, trending on Agence France Presse: 

Tesla beats expectations to report record profits!

[robosmith]

Twitter Reinstates Nick Fuentes, Kanye’s Hitler-Loving Muse

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Twitter has reinstated the account of white nationalist Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes. Fuentes was permanently banned from the platform in July 2021, and attempted to skirt the ban following Elon Musk’s October takeover of the social media platform. The decision to reinstate Fuentes is the latest digital pardon the billionaire has granted to extremist figures looking to re-establish themselves on Twitter.

The return of extremist figures to Twitter has been a hallmark of Musk’s early tenure at the platform. He has granted near-blanket amnesty to prominent neo-Nazi’s, white nationalists, and conspiracy theorists.

How many right wingers here defend Fuentes Holocaust denial and believe he should be able to promote those lies on Twitter?