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13 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Under a dictatorship such as soviet Russia, the illegal occupiers would have been loaded into trucks and taken away on day one. They would have been driven into the forest, shot, and buried in a mass unmarked grave. No debate in Parliament, no media reports, and no inquiry,

That's what Trudeau wanted to do. Instead he resorts to starving people out until they take his faulty vaxx and cuts access to their bank accounts in the middle of winter.. an act of war tolerated and promoted by his vile cult worshippers

Dictatorships also imprisson political adversaries such as what Trudeau and his ilk did.. something you support which is disgusting 

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1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

The scandals were buried by our media.

They harped on the 2012 Duffygate ($90k in travel claims by a senator) thing for 3 full years. They called it an election issue in 2015. 

The SNC scandal happened in an election year and it wasn't "an election issue". Trudeau even blocked the RCMP's investigation into it. He fired JWR, our first indigenous female cabinet minister. Nope, nothin' to see here. 

Then the media let Trudeau say "I shoulda recused myself" about We and they just stopped talking about it, forever. 

FYI the We scandal involved 10,000 times as much money, it was a real scandal, and had 10,000 times less coverage. 

The debate moderators steered clear of scandal questions, they just kept the focus on the environment and other leftist gibberish. It was embarrassing. 

Who is "they"? Harper made Duffy a senator.

Lavalin and WE may not have been in the debates but they sure were used by oppositions.  No one forgot about them and they were talked about.

Justin still won the elections.

The G7 debacle was under Harper rule.

Regardless, all irrelevant to this EMA hearing.

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31 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Under a dictatorship such as soviet Russia

How deceptively naive! There are more than one kind of dictatorship, way more and look where Russia started just over two decades back. And what will we have here, in three decades down this emergency path? Anybody could promise?

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1 hour ago, West said:

You are disgusting. 

The fact you think the government was in the right to freeze a father of 13s Bank account in the middle of winter for daring to voice displeasure about vile segregation policies shows all we need to know about you

You and your "coerced vaccinations" and freezing of bank accounts. LOL

253 accounts out of how many participants??? And if a father of 13 was going to be one of the leaders, he was more into himself than the 13 kids and his kids suffered the consequences of his actions. The accounts were unfrozen very quickly anyway.

Where did you get the father of 13 info anyway??

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20 minutes ago, myata said:

How deceptively naive! There are more than one kind of dictatorship, way more and look where Russia started just over two decades back. And what will we have here, in three decades down this emergency path? Anybody could promise?

It's only a dictatorship because they won a plurality of the seats. The Conservatives have no say until the next election. 

Is a preferable system one where only things get done with 60% support like in the US Senate? 

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All of the problems for the occupiers could have been avoided if, when the Courts ordered them to leave, they complied. The truckers would not have been prevented from entering the US if they had been vaccinated like the overwhelming majority of their fellow truckers. It was a requirement by the Trump administration that entry into the US was restricted to vaccinated truckers. The Public Health restrictions by Provincial and Federal authorities worked as shown by the fact that the per capita death rate in Canada was one-third that of the US.

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52 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

You and your "coerced vaccinations" and freezing of bank accounts. LOL

253 accounts out of how many participants??? And if a father of 13 was going to be one of the leaders, he was more into himself than the 13 kids and his kids suffered the consequences of his actions. The accounts were unfrozen very quickly anyway.

Where did you get the father of 13 info anyway??

They froze the account of the guy who was offering accounting services to the convoy fund to ensure it met government requirements.. the guy had 13 kids. 

He has nothing to do with parking any trucks.. that was the police who directed traffick. If they fd up that's on them. Don't take it out on a 5 year old just to save face.. that's sick

Alot like the Democrats targeting lawyers in the US to ensure the people they want to make an example of don't have access to legal council which is what they do in Venezuela or Russia

The fact you support that is disgusting

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13 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

All of the problems for the occupiers could have been avoided if, when the Courts ordered them to leave, they complied. The truckers would not have been prevented from entering the US if they had been vaccinated like the overwhelming majority of their fellow truckers. It was a requirement by the Trump administration that entry into the US was restricted to vaccinated truckers. The Public Health restrictions by Provincial and Federal authorities worked as shown by the fact that the per capita death rate in Canada was one-third that of the US.

The courts never ordered them to leave. You are a liar

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What it boils down to is a corrupt police force protecting a corrupt politician by using fake stories, such as the convoy being accused of trying to burn down an apartment building, to invoke the Emergencies Act illegally. Nothing to do with safety. Everything to do with protecting Trudeau's fragile ego and doing irreparable harm to the legal system, foreign investment (governments freezing accounts of legal protesters makes people think twice) and further divided society. Played to people's fear for power.. takes a special type of psychopath to do that

Trudeau peddled division and hate to hold onto power. He's a little boy who's a sad excuse for a prime minister. His enablers are just as disgusting 

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21 minutes ago, West said:

They froze the account of the guy who was offering accounting services to the convoy fund to ensure it met government requirements.. the guy had 13 kids. 

He has nothing to do with parking any trucks.. that was the police who directed traffick. If they fd up that's on them. Don't take it out on a 5 year old just to save face.. that's sick

Alot like the Democrats targeting lawyers in the US to ensure the people they want to make an example of don't have access to legal council which is what they do in Venezuela or Russia

The fact you support that is disgusting

So, who is this guy?? Never heard of him. And if he was doing the accounting, he was part of the team. I think you made that up, like so much of the stuff you post.

Take it out on a 5 year old??? Who is that?

If you do something stupid and has consequences, it is you that is stupid, not the children or the cops.

Democrats targeting lawyers? What BS is that??

 

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17 minutes ago, West said:

The courts never ordered them to leave. You are a liar

Yes the court told them to stop and remove the blockade.

 

"Protesters are still occupying a main crossing at Canada's border with the United States, despite a court ruling ordering them to leave.

The injunction came into effect at 19:00 local time (midnight GMT) on Friday to end days of protests."

"Following the court order, Windsor Police put out a statement to "make demonstrators clearly aware that it is a criminal offence" to block the border crossing. The police added that a criminal conviction could lead to the seizure of vehicles and the inability to enter the US. "

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60356461

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12 minutes ago, West said:

What it boils down to is a corrupt police force protecting a corrupt politician by using fake stories, such as the convoy being accused of trying to burn down an apartment building, to invoke the Emergencies Act illegally. Nothing to do with safety. Everything to do with protecting Trudeau's fragile ego and doing irreparable harm to the legal system, foreign investment (governments freezing accounts of legal protesters makes people think twice) and further divided society. Played to people's fear for power.. takes a special type of psychopath to do that

Trudeau peddled division and hate to hold onto power. He's a little boy who's a sad excuse for a prime minister. His enablers are just as disgusting 

Man, you are getting more and more paranoid each time you post.

The apartment burning issue was reporting problem. It was debunked the same or next  day.

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22 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

So, who is this guy?? Never heard of him. And if he was doing the accounting, he was part of the team. I think you made that up, like so much of the stuff you post.

Take it out on a 5 year old??? Who is that?

If you do something stupid and has consequences, it is you that is stupid, not the children or the cops.

Democrats targeting lawyers? What BS is that??

 

Something stupid like setting up a non profit? Listen to yourself trying to make setting up a non profit illegal because you don't like the views. Sick person. 

By the way he has never been charged with any crime. 

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11 minutes ago, West said:

Something stupid like setting up a non profit? Listen to yourself trying to make setting up a non profit illegal because you don't like the views. Sick person. 

By the way he has never been charged with any crime. 

Says you and you know what that is worth. (does not need an accountant for so little LOL)

BTW, who is this person?? That jeopardizes his 13 children? He is the sick person

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Every Canadian is innocent until proven guilty, seizing one's bank accounts is assuming one is guilty. And has far reaching consequences, when else has this been used in Canadian history, the Omar family never had their accounts frozen, and he was as close to a treason charge as you can get, come to think of it we paid him.

To be fair it got carried away on all sides, and this commission is a farce whose outcome will play very little in the real world it will just be another folly for Justin on a very long list. And forgotten news come election time. It will do nothing to convince liberal voters to change their votes. so, what is the point, well it is entertainment, and a waste of tax dollars. 

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12 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Every Canadian is innocent until proven guilty, seizing one's bank accounts is assuming one is guilty. And has far reaching consequences, when else has this been used in Canadian history, the Omar family never had their accounts frozen, and he was as close to a treason charge as you can get, come to think of it we paid him.

To be fair it got carried away on all sides, and this commission is a farce whose outcome will play very little in the real world it will just be another folly for Justin on a very long list. And forgotten news come election time. It will do nothing to convince liberal voters to change their votes. so, what is the point, well it is entertainment, and a waste of tax dollars. 

210 accounts were not "seized" but "frozen" by the banks using names provided by the RCMP. I realize the line between "seized" and "frozen" is fine, but it is a line. Seizure normally implies criminality and court action to recover.

The accounts were frozen several days after the EMA was enacted on 15 Feb.

Accounts were released on 22 Feb.  https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2022/02/23/canada-begins-to-release-frozen-bank-accounts-of-freedom-convoy-protestors/?sh=1810070d6364

For sure it got out of hand on all sides.

The report, as opposed to outcome,  will be interesting as it is not there to make judgment or a witch hunt. No one will be charged. It gives every side an opportunity to vent and have their displeasure recognized.

For sure, it will be forgotten by election time. Just as Lavllin and WE and Aga Kahn vacations and black face and other multitude scandals were.

The inquiry is mandated so, it must be held.

 

 

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When the police find an impaired driver with a reading over a certain limit, they are authorized to seize the vehicle on the spot.  The same happens when they find a large quantity of illegal drugs and cash, they seize it. 
Blockading a public road is illegal.

Harassment is illegal.

violation of public health orders is illegal.

Violation of a court order is illegal.

Mischief is illegal. 
The behaviour of the participants in the occupation, if found legal by the court, is still bad manners. It was not the kind of courtesy we should expect from Canadians.

As for the justification for the EMA, we have to wait for the report of the Commission. 

 

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2 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

All of the problems for the occupiers could have been avoided if, when the Courts ordered them to leave, they complied. The truckers would not have been prevented from entering the US if they had been vaccinated like the overwhelming majority of their fellow truckers. It was a requirement by the Trump administration that entry into the US was restricted to vaccinated truckers. The Public Health restrictions by Provincial and Federal authorities worked as shown by the fact that the per capita death rate in Canada was one-third that of the US.

You’re wrong.  There was no vaccination requirement of truckers under Trump.  Vaccine fascism for truckers started in the new year under Biden, following its initiation by Trudeau.

The disgusting treatment of peaceful protesters by this PM and his misuse of martial law against people who opposed mandates was witnessed internationally and will never be forgotten.  The inquiry’s attempt to whitewash the government’s totalitarian denial of Charter rights will never be forgotten.

Musk said, “Not even Hitler froze bank accounts.”  Democrat influencer Maher said, “That does sound like Hitler”, when Trudeau said, “These people (protesters of mandates) are racists and misogynists.  Do we make a space for these people?” and “They have unacceptable views.”

We saw the footage of police beating a man on his knees with his hands behind his back.  We saw the Indigenous older lady trampled by the mounted police.

We know that the honking had stopped after the court injunction and that the Emergencies Act was imposed after the border blockades were removed.

We saw Trudeau’s attempt to extend the Emergencies Act, only to rescind it when he saw that the Senate wouldn’t support it.

Canada has declined as a liberal democracy because our rights were violated time and again during the pandemic, especially during the protests.

The lost left-wing quasi-dictatorship under Trudeau that took away jobs and licenses and destroyed the reputations of people who opposed unconstitutional mandates will never be forgotten.

Deny and white wash as much as you want, a significant portion of the population knows exactly how unjustly this government acted.  

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2 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Contrary to some posts above, Mr. Justice Rouleau is a man of integrity. Unlike the US, the Canadian judiciary is not politicized. 

You’re dreaming.  Canada’s judiciary is totally politicized and is actually worse than the American judicial system, because it pretends not to be politicized.  Our courts, media, and institutions are too heavily influenced by one political party, the Liberal Party.  Cuba North.  

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20 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

You’re wrong.  There was no vaccination requirement of truckers under Trump.  Vaccine fascism for truckers started in the new year under Biden, following its initiation by Trudeau.

my error.

The disgusting treatment of peaceful protesters by this PM and his misuse of martial law against people who opposed mandates was witnessed internationally and will never be forgotten.  The inquiry’s attempt to whitewash the government’s totalitarian denial of Charter rights will never be forgotten.

Was it tested in Court? also, Martial Law was not invoked. No military we’re involved.

Musk said, Not even Hitler froze bank accounts.  Democrat Maher said, That does sound like Hitler, 

you must not have heard of the holocaust. They even stole the gold from peoples teeth  from what I’ve heard

We saw Trudeau’s attempt to extend the Emergencies Act, only to rescind it when he saw that the Senate wouldn’t support it.

Gee, bowing to the will of Parliament. Not much of a dictator.

Canada has declined as a liberal democracy because our rights were violated time and again during the pandemic, especially during the protests. 
 

40,000 Canadians died from Covid. If we had followed the American lax policies, it may have been 100,000. The US had over one million deaths

The lost left-wing quasi-dictatorship under Trudeau that took away jobs and licenses and destroyed the reputations of people who opposed unconstitutional mandates will never be forgotten.

When we’re they found unconstitutional?

Sorry. I didn’t know how to use the quote function properly on my iPhone.

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20 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Sorry. I didn’t know how to use the quote function properly on my iPhone.

I really see now how brainwashed Canadians have become about the state of the nation.  They think their judicial system is free of political influence, that their healthcare system is great, and that their constitutional rights are respected.  Years of government funded media rhetoric have had quite an impact.

I remember seeing the country as you do.  I’m not proud of Canada anymore. Whether it’s our most permissive in the world euthanasia (the final solution to saving money on our failed healthcare; even the budgetary officer noted this); our rewriting of history, incorrectly ascribing genocide to Canada as policy; or the total selling out of Canadian economic interests to curry favour with international green zealots, this country is becoming a soulless shell. Marxist-nihilist, woke-green China-light. Gross.

Democracy has declined in Canada.  

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10 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I really see now how brainwashed Canadians have become about the state of the nation.  They think their judicial system is free of political influence, that their healthcare system is great, and that their constitutional rights are respected.  Years of government funded media rhetoric have had quite an impact.

 I remember seeing the country as you do.  I’m not proud of Canada anymore. Whether it’s our most permissive in the world euthanasia (the final solution to saving money on healthcare; even the budgetary officer noted this), our rewriting of history, incorrectly ascribing genocide to Canada as policy, or the total selling out of Canadian economic interest to curry favour with international green zealots, this country is becoming a soulless shell.  Marxist-nihilist, woke green China-light.  Gross.

Then your duty is to run for Parliament and fix things. And West could address the learned Public Health officials such as Dr Tam, show them your credentials and explain why you know more than they do. They are not infallible.

The vaccine is harmless. I’ve had 5 shots and no problems. So has the rest of my family. I don’t know of anyone who has had any problems.

Let me be clear. I respect your views. I make no claims of infallibility. A perusal of my posts clearly demonstrate I am not without error.

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