Biden's DOJ, KGB Bullying a Pro-Life Activist

[WestCanMan]

A pro-life activist named Mark Houck likes to pray for people outside of an abortion clinic in Philadelphia. Scary, right?

Last October he was outside of an abortion clinic doing his thing when a 72-yr-old man, who was escorting someone from the clinic, allegedly verbally abused his son. Houck allegedly pushed the man, and the man tried to have him charged. Police responded but they didn't arrest him and they didn't charge him. The Philadelphia DA also declined to prosecute Houck for the alleged push.

But wait, isn't there something that can be done to a man for allegedly pushing a man who allegedly verbally abused his son? Not really. A push isn't usually a good enough reason to charge someone criminally unless there's a train track, speeding car or a cliff nearby, and in this case there wasn't. It wasn't done with intent to injure and the "victim" wasn't injured. There's also the issue of consenting to violence by verbally abusing a child.  

Luckily for the man who was pushed, Biden's DOJ and FBI aren't accountable to any laws or ethical standards. 

Biden's FBI showed up at the man's home earlier this month, almost a full year after the incident, in force. Between 20-30 officers with shields and loaded assault rifles pounded on his door and dragged him out of his home in shackles, in front of his kids. 

Was that really necessary for a push from a year ago, you ask?

That's not even the bad part. The bad part is what he was arrested for:

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violating the Freedom of Access Clinic Entrances Act, or FACE Act, which makes it a federal crime to use force with the intent to injure, intimidate and interfere with anyone because that person provides reproductive health care.

The use of the word "and" there is curious, because it implies that you need all 3, as opposed to or, which would require just 1 of the 3. It's probably more of an "or" situation anyways, because intimidating and interfering are probably not allowed.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/252385/mark-houck-fbi-arrest-abortion-clinic

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If convicted, Houck could face up to 11 years in prison, three years of supervised release, and a fine of up to $350,000, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office. 

If he had just assaulted a cashier, looted a store, and then burned it down, would Biden's FBI treat him like this? 

This is just more evidence of how low the FBI has sunk, and the extent to which Biden has weaponized the DOJ and FBI to enforce his repugnant, divisive politics. 

Edited September 30, 2022 by WestCanMan

[traveler52]

So some anti-choice/anti-woman cry baby suffered.  Remind me to cry.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, traveler52 said:

So some anti-choice/anti-woman cry baby suffered.  Remind me to cry.

"Suffered". 

You're a joke, dude.

If you pushed someone who was yelling at your kid, didn't hurt them or even have the intent to injure them, and then cops pounded on your door, about 25 of them were playing army on your front lawn, and then 5 of them pointed guns in your face and at your family, and then removed you in shackles, would that be considered part of a healthy, functioning democracy? 

Remind me to cry if you're ever the victim of something like that. 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

"Suffered". 

You're a joke, dude.

If you pushed someone who was yelling at your kid, didn't hurt them or even have the intent to injure them, and then cops pounded on your door, about 25 of them were playing army on your front lawn, and then 5 of them pointed guns in your face and at your family, and then removed you in shackles, would that be considered part of a healthy, functioning democracy? 

Remind me to cry if you're ever the victim of something like that. 

I'll betcha this ain't Houck's first rodeo. He probably has a long history of provocations and is WELL KNOWN to the FBI.

IOW, CONTEXT is MISSING. And he (finally) stepped over the line and gave them something with which he could be charged.

If you don't like US laws WCM, stay the f out of this country.

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

If you don't like US laws WCM,

US laws are just fine. Biden and the KGB aren't.

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stay the f out of this country.

I have a phobia of little prissy bitches. Maybe I better stay outta your country lol.  

[traveler52]

First off, in case you're not aware, there is no KGB.  It died years ago.  Next. the only party that running toward a former KGB Officer (Putin) is Republican. 

So what if one anti-choice sissy got his frillies in twist.  Grow up.

Edited October 1, 2022 by traveler52

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, traveler52 said:

First off, in case you're not aware, there is no KGB.  It died years ago.  Next. the only party that running toward a former KGB Officer (Putin) is Republican. 

So what if one anti-choice sissy got his frillies in twist.  Grow up.

The KGB would definitely be all over something like an "American collusion" witch hunt back in the day - "You show me the man and I'll show you the crime" was invented by the KGB. 

Would the KGB lie to a judge to get a warrant to spy? Of course. Would their agent go to jail if they were caught? No. Would they remain "a lawyer in good standing". Probably. 

Would the KGB call Putin's son's laptop "American disinformation"? Of course they would. 

They'd show up at the home of a clergyman and arrest him with guns drawn, right in front of their family, and drag him away in shackles no problem. 

They'd get people high and entrap them into a kidnapping scheme which they could "coincidentally" unravel right before an election. 

Eventually the KGB went too far, and it was abolished, so there's still hope for America. 

Edited October 1, 2022 by WestCanMan

[Oliverson]

It's unfortunate to hear about incidents where politics and personal beliefs lead to bullying and unfair treatment. Many people have faced similar challenges, and it's definitely no fun.

[Rebound]

On 9/30/2022 at 1:01 PM, WestCanMan said:

A pro-life activist named Mark Houck likes to pray for people outside of an abortion clinic in Philadelphia. Scary, right?

Last October he was outside of an abortion clinic doing his thing when a 72-yr-old man, who was escorting someone from the clinic, allegedly verbally abused his son. Houck allegedly pushed the man, and the man tried to have him charged. Police responded but they didn't arrest him and they didn't charge him. The Philadelphia DA also declined to prosecute Houck for the alleged push.

But wait, isn't there something that can be done to a man for allegedly pushing a man who allegedly verbally abused his son? Not really. A push isn't usually a good enough reason to charge someone criminally unless there's a train track, speeding car or a cliff nearby, and in this case there wasn't. It wasn't done with intent to injure and the "victim" wasn't injured. There's also the issue of consenting to violence by verbally abusing a child.  

Luckily for the man who was pushed, Biden's DOJ and FBI aren't accountable to any laws or ethical standards. 

Biden's FBI showed up at the man's home earlier this month, almost a full year after the incident, in force. Between 20-30 officers with shields and loaded assault rifles pounded on his door and dragged him out of his home in shackles, in front of his kids. 

Was that really necessary for a push from a year ago, you ask?

That's not even the bad part. The bad part is what he was arrested for:

The use of the word "and" there is curious, because it implies that you need all 3, as opposed to or, which would require just 1 of the 3. It's probably more of an "or" situation anyways, because intimidating and interfering are probably not allowed.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/252385/mark-houck-fbi-arrest-abortion-clinic

If he had just assaulted a cashier, looted a store, and then burned it down, would Biden's FBI treat him like this? 

This is just more evidence of how low the FBI has sunk, and the extent to which Biden has weaponized the DOJ and FBI to enforce his repugnant, divisive politics. 

THAT IS BECAUSE YOU READ FAKE NEWS AND THEY TELL YOU LIES!!!  THEY LIE TO YOU!!!

It’s very simple:  Simply read the actual law for yourself. It says OR, not AND.   You’re being lied to. You’re being used. BECAUSE THEY THINK YOU’RE STUPID.  
 

Whoever—

(1)

by force or threat of force or by physical obstruction, intentionally injures, intimidates or interferes with or attempts to injure, intimidate or interfere with any person because that person is or has been, or in order tointimidate such person or any other person or any class of persons from, obtaining or providing reproductive health services;

(2)

by force or threat of force or by physical obstruction, intentionally injures, intimidates or interferes with or attempts to injure, intimidate or interfere with any person lawfully exercising or seeking to exercise the First Amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship; or

(3)

intentionally damages or destroys the property of a facility, or attempts to do so, because such facility provides reproductive health services, or intentionally damages or destroys the property of a place of religious worship,

shall be subject to the penalties provided in subsection (b) and the civil remedies provided in subsection

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/248

[WestCanMan]

14 minutes ago, Rebound said:

THAT IS BECAUSE YOU READ FAKE NEWS AND THEY TELL YOU LIES!!!  THEY LIE TO YOU!!!It’s very simple:  Simply read the actual law for yourself. It says OR, not AND.   You’re being lied to. You’re being used. BECAUSE THEY THINK YOU’RE STUPID.  

If you read my post you can see that I surmised that it should say "or" instead of "and". 

Still not a big deal though, the important part is that an 'alleged' shove from a year ago ended up with a military raid against a non-violent man in front of his children. The alleged shove was allegedly a reaction to someone verbally abusing a child. 

This was clearly not an incident which required a military-style raid.

 

It's odd that after reading this thread, you had such an emotional reaction to the use of the word 'and', but you don't care about the bizarre details of the arrest. 

[Rebound]

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If you read my post you can see that I surmised that it should say "or" instead of "and". 

Still not a big deal though, the important part is that an 'alleged' shove from a year ago ended up with a military raid against a non-violent man in front of his children. The alleged shove was allegedly a reaction to someone verbally abusing a child. 

This was clearly not an incident which required a military-style raid.

 

It's odd that after reading this thread, you had such an emotional reaction to the use of the word 'and', but you don't care about the bizarre details of the arrest. 

The same “news” outlet that told you it’s a “and” told you it was 20 to 30 FBI agents who arrested one man, and you believe it?  
 

You say the shove was “alleged” but the number of FBI agents was “fact”. You choose your “facts” with irrationality.  

[Deluge]

On 9/30/2022 at 11:30 AM, traveler52 said:

So some anti-choice/anti-woman cry baby suffered.  Remind me to cry.

Nobody cries for freedom hating socialists, but we all should cry for pro-abortion mothers because they're too ignorant to understand what they are doing. 

Edited July 6, 2023 by Deluge

[Deluge]

On 9/30/2022 at 3:07 PM, robosmith said:

If you don't like US laws WCM, stay the f out of this country.

That goes double for illegal alien supporters. 

Shall I help you pack your bags? 

[Nationalist]

A religious guy sets down to prey for people at an abortion clinic. He was not blocking the doorway...not was he addressing anyone in particular.

Another person sees this and gets his panties in a knot. So he proceeds to insult the man's kid...and gets pushed.

2 things here:

1. This arrest is very much an abuse of power.

2. The little shit is luck the religious guy wasn't more like me. Had this POS torn into my kid...the local police might just have had ample cause to arrest me.

[Rebound]

19 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

A religious guy sets down to prey for people at an abortion clinic. He was not blocking the doorway...not was he addressing anyone in particular.

Another person sees this and gets his panties in a knot. So he proceeds to insult the man's kid...and gets pushed.

2 things here:

1. This arrest is very much an abuse of power.

2. The little shit is luck the religious guy wasn't more like me. Had this POS torn into my kid...the local police might just have had ample cause to arrest me.

Why is the arrest an abuse of power? It appears that this man broke a Federal law.

[Nationalist]

34 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Why is the arrest an abuse of power? It appears that this man broke a Federal law.

Which one? Was he stopping anyone from entering? No.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

That goes double for illegal alien supporters. 

Shall I help you pack your bags? 

PM me your name and address for the slander suit I'm going to file against you for LYING ABOUT ME.

[robosmith]

58 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

A religious guy sets down to prey for people at an abortion clinic. He was not blocking the doorway...not was he addressing anyone in particular.

Another person sees this and gets his panties in a knot. So he proceeds to insult the man's kid...and gets pushed.

2 things here:

1. This arrest is very much an abuse of power.

2. The little shit is luck the religious guy wasn't more like me. Had this POS torn into my kid...the local police might just have had ample cause to arrest me.

Thanks for admitting you're prone to illegal violence on top of being a fraud. You really have no respect for the law.

IF the arrest was an abuse of power, the judge will sort it out, IF the prosecutor does not drop the charges.

 

[Nationalist]

28 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for admitting you're prone to illegal violence on top of being a fraud. You really have no respect for the law.

IF the arrest was an abuse of power, the judge will sort it out, IF the prosecutor does not drop the charges.

 

Ya I have a "thing" for my kids. You wouldn't understand.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

The same “news” outlet that told you it’s a “and” told you it was 20 to 30 FBI agents who arrested one man, and you believe it?  
 

You say the shove was “alleged” but the number of FBI agents was “fact”. You choose your “facts” with irrationality.  

Grow up Rebound. The difference between putting "and" or "or" there is completely trivial and makes no meaningful difference in the story. The story is about what happened to those people, not "what legal conditions or combination of conditions must be proven to have been met in court in order for the accused to be found guilty", do you get it? 

The guy allegedly pushed someone a year ago, local police didn't think anything of it, and then a small army of FBI agents came to their home with 'assault rifles' drawn and pointed them at him and his family. 

Yes, I do believe that it was 20-30 agents, but if I'm wrong and it was only 16, does it make the story somewhat less poignant in your eyes? 

The man's wife said:

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“A SWAT team of about 25 came to my house with about 15 vehicles and started pounding on our door,” Houck’s wife, Ryan-Marie Houck, told CNA on Friday, just hours after her husband’s arrest.

That's good enough for me. I have no doubt that there were a lot of them: enough to cause no small amount of fear and distress to a family of completely non-violent people. 

If you want to, you can choose to believe that she's a lying whore and only 17 FBI agents were there. YAY, democracy is saved if it was only 17!

Maybe there were only 4 guns pointed at her and her husband. Does that make it better? YAY, democracy is saved if there were only 4 assault rifles pointed at her family!

FYI the FBI challenged her facts but refused to say how many officers were there so the number 25 is all we have to go by. And even if they did say, that would just be their side of the story anyways, and we have no reason to believe the FBI.

 

I said the shove was alleged, and it absolutely does remain alleged until it's proven in court or there's a video released. I also said that the verbal assault on his child is also only alleged, because that hasn't been proven either. 

The number of FBI agents was 25 according to the woman, and I never used her number as a "fact", I said "20-30" which leaves intelligent humans with the impression that the number is merely a ballpark figure. 

 

Dude, you really need to grow up now. Your confirmation bias is at a sickening level. You take everything that you see on CNN on hear from Fauci or Biden as 100% gospel truth after they've been busted for outright lying hundreds of times, and at the same time you wanna nitpick me because I correctly pointed out that the wording should probably say "or" instead of "and" and I correctly portrayed the woman's quoted approximate number of the number of FBI agents as being just a ballpark figure. 

FYI I never overstated or understated anything. Literally every single thing that I said there can be taken at face value and every bit of it paints a very accurate portrayal of what happened as described in the article. The FBI won't even confirm that the number of people was significantly less than 25. They won't release a number because that information is some kind of secret, but there were 17 at Roger Stone's house. If it was 17 are you still butthurt? Does it make her account of the story invalid? 

Speaking to leftards is honestly a revolting experience. You're a twisted little piece of garbage, Rebound. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Why is the arrest an abuse of power? It appears that this man broke a Federal law.

1) "a federal law" lol. He's a peaceful protester. The fact that the US gov't is calling that a "federal matter" and resorting to high-level violence to police it is disgusting. 

2) The police use of force is supposed to be a measured response to the level of threat that they are facing. They could have sent him a letter, called him on the phone, emailed him, or did any number of less violent things to get him into custody. 

It's hilarious that leftards think that police shouldn't have investigated Breonna Taylor's home, and they shouldn't have returned fire when they were shot by her BF, but sending a military raid to someone's home a year after a 'shove' which the local police found trivial is A-OK! 

You have less credibility on this forum than tea leaves have at the Pentagon.

[Hodad]

A guy who brings his kid to antagonize and shame other people who are exercising their rights is sad about being antagonized and shamed in front of his kids?

It's time to call the irony police!

[robosmith]

11 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Ya I have a "thing" for my kids. You wouldn't understand.

You're right. Resorting to a futile display of violence over next to nothing makes NO SENSE to me.

Nor does defending a HUGE FRAUD like Trump.

It says you may be a dry drunk who lashes out nonsensibly.

Like I said, you have no respect for the law.

[CdnFox]

On 9/30/2022 at 10:01 AM, WestCanMan said:

A pro-life activist named Mark Houck likes to pray for people outside of an abortion clinic in Philadelphia. Scary, right?

Depends who hes' praying to. God? No.  Joe Pesci? Yes.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

You're right. Resorting to a futile display of violence over next to nothing makes NO SENSE to me.

Nor does defending a HUGE FRAUD like Trump.

It says you may be a dry drunk who lashes out nonsensibly.

Like I said, you have no respect for the law.

Lol...nor am I a coward.