Moonbox Posted October 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: They can have all the sovereignty and self defence...THEY can muster...ON THEIR OWN! NATO has no business in this. ZERO! Donkey-logic. This would have us believe that sovereignty only matters if you can defend it by yourself, which would mean that any smaller nation has no sovereignty in the face of larger aggressors. That's a mind-melting set of rules you've constructed - more copium to treat the discomfort of watching Great Leader's magnificent faceplant. Maybe you should consider keeping a diary of your feelings.Dear Diary: This is so UNFAIR! Big Brave Vlad was "liberating" Ukraine from those awful "Nazis" and they DARED to seek outside help! Those COWARDS! They were supposed to either fight and lose against against a country with 10x the resources and 3x the population, or surrender and let Big Brave Vlad have what he wanted! They're not allowed to do this! ? -Nationalist Edited October 4, 2022 by Moonbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: They can have all the sovereignty and self defence...THEY can muster...ON THEIR OWN! NATO has no business in this. ZERO! NATO has a huge interest, one of them would be next but for NATO membership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: They can have all the sovereignty and self defence...THEY can muster...ON THEIR OWN! NATO has no business in this. ZERO! The implications of Russia invading and conquering a European country that borders multiple NATO countries means NATO absolutely has business in this. Stop defending and apologizing for your murderous dictator hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Moonbox said: Says the guy rationalizing Putin's direct copycatting of pre-WW2 Hitler. The projection and reversal of logic here is truly baffling to behold. ? Seeing that I haven't done that, it would be baffling to behold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Seeing that I haven't done that, it would be baffling to behold. That’s exactly what you’ve done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Ukraine was just sitting there all innocent-like...just chilling...when along comes Russia for absolutely no reason what-so-ever and invades. 1 minute ago, BeaverFever said: That’s exactly what you’ve done. Uh...in your war addled brain, anybody not jumping up and down for nuclear war with the Russians is your enemy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) Let’s recap today’s headlines about the incompetent and brutal regime that the worst of the worst of the MAGA supporters are in live with: 1). Miss Crimea fined and her friend jailed for singing a patriotic Ukrainian song on social media https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/04/miss-crimea-fined-for-singing-patriotic-ukrainian-song 2) The number of men who have fled Russia is larger than Russia’s entire invasion force https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-putin-mobilization-russia-ukraine-nato/ 3) Russian army leaves bodies of its own dead soldiers lying in the streets during desperate retreat https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bodies-of-russian-soldiers-lie-dead-in-the-streets-of-key-liberated-ukrainian-city-01664879540 Edited October 4, 2022 by BeaverFever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Those nasty Iraqis tore those poor underweight babies right from their incubators and threw them on the floor. Can you imagine??? We should perhaps invade them. Oh?? We've already started? Cool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Ukraine was just sitting there all innocent-like...just chilling...when along comes Russia for absolutely no reason what-so-ever and invades. Uh...in your war addled brain, anybody not jumping up and down for nuclear war with the Russians is your enemy. 1)Yeah, Ukraine was basically sitting there all innocent-like. 2) Russia invaded not for no reason, its aggression against Ukraine goes back 20 years and Putin has reasons that we’ve explained repeatedly here. Are you intentionally being ignorant or what??? Don’t worry I know you won’t answer or acknowledge this point at all 3) Its Funny that you would even dare to say “for no reason whatsoever” because your whole lame Ukraine-blaming is totally based on Ukraine being the agressor for no reason. In your despot -addled brain, murderous dictators should be rewarded for invading neighbouring countries and countries who get invaded should be blamed for defending themselves and not rewarding the invader Edited October 4, 2022 by BeaverFever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Those nasty Iraqis tore those poor underweight babies right from their incubators and threw them on the floor. Can you imagine??? We should perhaps invade them. Oh?? We've already started? Cool... The unjustified invasion of Iraq is another one of Republican’s greatest despicable hits. Now we can add supporting Putin’s invasion of a European democracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: The unjustified invasion of Iraq is another one of Republican’s greatest despicable hits. Now we can add supporting Putin’s invasion of a European democracy Here's a good demonstration as to how mixed-up your history is. Baby incubators were from the Gulf War...not the post 9-11 Invasion of Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted October 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 32 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Seeing that I haven't done that, it would be baffling to behold. That's exactly what you've done, blaming Ukraine and NATO for getting invaded by Russia. Stupendous bass ackward logic. It's not the rapists invader's fault, it's the rapee's invadee. Ukraine should not have been flirting with NATO or dressed so provocatively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Moonbox said: That's exactly what you've done, blaming Ukraine and NATO for getting invaded by Russia. Stupendous bass ackward logic. It's not the rapists invader's fault, it's the rapee's invadee. Ukraine should not have been flirting with NATO or dressed so provocatively. I can see you've reached the demented stage of your war lust. There will be no reasoning with the likes of you until a few nuclear weapons are used...perhaps. No guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Here's a good demonstration as to how mixed-up your history is. Baby incubators were from the Gulf War...not the post 9-11 Invasion of Iraq. So? That was also a Republican invasion, dummy Edited October 4, 2022 by BeaverFever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: I can see you've reached the demented stage of your war lust. There will be no reasoning with the likes of you until a few nuclear weapons are used...perhaps. No guarantee. The quickest and easiest route to peace is for Putin to call off his invasion and bring his troops home. They could all be back in Russia in a matter of hours. Anyone who demands anything different are the ones with war lust. That includes you, war monger Edited October 4, 2022 by BeaverFever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Moonbox said: Donkey-logic. This would have us believe that sovereignty only matters if you can defend it by yourself, which would mean that any smaller nation has no sovereignty in the face of larger aggressors. That's a mind-melting set of rules you've constructed - more copium to treat the discomfort of watching Great Leader's magnificent faceplant. Maybe you should consider keeping a diary of your feelings.Dear Diary: This is so UNFAIR! Big Brave Vlad was "liberating" Ukraine from those awful "Nazis" and they DARED to seek outside help! Those COWARDS! They were supposed to either fight and lose against against a country with 10x the resources and 3x the population, or surrender and let Big Brave Vlad have what he wanted! They're not allowed to do this! ? -Nationalist Hilarious...more effeminate logic. Yoy think this qar is worth American blood? Go shed some for you cause. No? A true cowardly panty-waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Aristides said: NATO has a huge interest, one of them would be next but for NATO membership. Oh get over yourself. "Ahhh...Purin is coming for us all!" Only if you corner him Sally... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: The implications of Russia invading and conquering a European country that borders multiple NATO countries means NATO absolutely has business in this. Stop defending and apologizing for your murderous dictator hero. Stop being such an irrational little girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted October 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Hilarious...more effeminate logic. Yoy think this qar is worth American blood? Go shed some for you cause. No? A true cowardly panty-waste. American blood not required. Putin is losing quite spectacularly with no GI boots on the ground, and will continue to do so. Why? Because not even his own soldiers are stupid enough to believe what he's saying, nor are they willing to fight for him. Scream into your pillow some more. Edited October 4, 2022 by Moonbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Stop being such an irrational little girl. Another reply with nothing but silly insults? Dude, how pathetic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 7 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: I don't support either of the players. But you do support the Ukrainians. Nazis and all. To be fair a lot of nations had citizens support Nazi Germany, here is a list of SS units that were made up of different nationalities, yet we do not equate them today with being Nazi states. Waffen-SS foreign volunteers and conscripts - Wikipedia 4Foreign Waffen-SS units recruited by Nazi Germany 4.1Albania 4.2Belgium 4.3Bulgaria 4.4Bohemia and Moravia 4.5Croatia 4.6Denmark 4.7Estonia 4.8Finland 4.9France 4.10Hungary 4.11India 4.12Italy 4.13Latvia 4.14The Netherlands 4.15Norway 4.16Romania 4.17Serbia 4.18Spain 4.19Soviet Union (Russia) 4.20Sweden 4.21Switzerland 4.22Ukraine 4.23United Kingdom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, Moonbox said: American blood not required. Putin is losing quite spectacularly with no GI boots on the ground, and will continue to do so. Why? Because not even his own soldiers are stupid enough to believe what he's saying, nor are they willing to fight for him. Scream into your pillow some more. So...ur OK with proxy-wars? Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: So...ur OK with proxy-wars? Interesting. So…ur OK with Putin-wars? Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: So...ur OK with proxy-wars? Interesting. Proxy wars my ass. Ukraine was attacked and is defending itself on its own soil. That isn't about proxy, it's about survival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: 2) Russia invaded not for no reason, its aggression against Ukraine goes back 20 years and Putin has reasons that we’ve explained repeatedly here. Are you intentionally being ignorant or what??? Don’t worry I know you won’t answer or acknowledge this point at all @DogOnPorch Thanks for proving me right yet again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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