Boges Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I warned you about this sort of trash Beave. I swear, you little POS...If I get my mud-hooks on you...I'll send you home in a fcking BOX! Certainly sounds like you value life to me. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted October 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Alternate reality? You mean the one in which man does not tempt a nuclear war? What's the logic here? That not allowing Putin to do what he pleases forces nuclear war? 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Nobody has said the US should engage fully? Do you lie as a matter of course? Can you quote anyone here suggesting that the US and NATO should invade Russia? I'll wait. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Boges said: Certainly sounds like you value life to me. ? Do NOT insult my wife and family. THAT reduces one to the level of a DOG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Boges said: The Azov regiment are good fighters. Certainly not emblematic of the Ukrainian power structure as a whole however. The Ukrainians named the main drag in Kiev (and other cities like Lvov) to Stephan Bandera Street/Blvd/etc. That would seem to me to be rather indicative of the Ukrainian power structure's feelings about the fellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: I really don't care about your war. I do note, however, that you're not fighting it. Content to let others do the killing and dying. Not my war. Putin's war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 43 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Don’t try to gaslight me. I didn’t accuse you of saying nukes are ok. I’m pointing put that you’re saying Putin’s actions, up to and including using nuclear weapons, are the west’s fault and not Putin’s fault, which is ridiculous. I'd say NATO holds the majority of the blame for this conflict. I realize that to you, Ukraine and NATO can do no wrong. But not everybody shares your glowing ideals about the corrupt Zelensky and his equally corrupt NATO chums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Just now, Aristides said: Not my war. Putin's war. Your war. You want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: I'd say NATO holds the majority of the blame for this conflict. I realize that to you, Ukraine and NATO can do no wrong. But not everybody shares your glowing ideals about the corrupt Zelensky and his equally corrupt NATO chums. Yes, Ukraine was such a threat to Russia. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Your war. You want it. Bullshit. You support the guy who started it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Just now, Aristides said: Yes, Ukraine was such a threat to Russia. ? As a proxy for NATO's dirty work, they most certainly are. Who knows what viruses & bacteria they're cooking-up in their 'research laboratories'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Aristides said: Bullshit. You support the guy who started it. I don't support either of the players. But you do support the Ukrainians. Nazis and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, Moonbox said: What's the logic here? That not allowing Putin to do what he pleases forces nuclear war? Can you quote anyone here suggesting that the US and NATO should invade Russia? I'll wait. ? Why do you warp the discussion to include an invasion of Russia? Ran out of real and relevant arguments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted October 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I'd say NATO holds the majority of the blame for this conflict. No doubt you do, Putin lickspittle that you are. The problem is that you can't form a coherent explanation for that, beyond a balogna Kremlin narrative about NATO "encroachment" and made-up NATO promises that Gorbachev discredited years ago. After 15-20 years of Russian military adventurism and border-redrawing, it's fascinating that you somehow can't understand why small neighbor states would feel threatened and want assurances of protection. buuut whaaaatabout HUnter Biiiiden! ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I don't support either of the players. But you do support the Ukrainians. Nazis and all. You continually justify Putin's invasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: I warned you about this sort of trash Beave. I swear, you little POS...If I get my mud-hooks on you...I'll send you home in a fcking BOX! Ooooh internet tough guy having a meltdown! Temper temper ? Edited October 4, 2022 by BeaverFever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Aristides said: You continually justify Putin's invasion. …While denying Ukrainian right to sovereignty or self defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 37 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: As a proxy for NATO's dirty work, they most certainly are. Who knows what viruses & bacteria they're cooking-up in their 'research laboratories'? Total 100% fabricated BS. Plus please walk us through you “logic” (if you can even call it that) on how annexing Ukrainian territory would stop these mythical “viruses and bacteria” anyhow. What’s that, you have no idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 34 minutes ago, Moonbox said: No doubt you do, Putin lickspittle that you are. The problem is that you can't form a coherent explanation for that, beyond a balogna Kremlin narrative about NATO "encroachment" and made-up NATO promises that Gorbachev discredited years ago. After 15-20 years of Russian military adventurism and border-redrawing, it's fascinating that you somehow can't understand why small neighbor states would feel threatened and want assurances of protection. buuut whaaaatabout HUnter Biiiiden! ? Fanatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, Aristides said: You continually justify Putin's invasion. Your idea of justifying is not agreeing with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 44 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I'd say NATO holds the majority of the blame for this conflict. I realize that to you, Ukraine and NATO can do no wrong. But not everybody shares your glowing ideals about the corrupt Zelensky and his equally corrupt NATO chums. 1) First of all the claim that Putin was provoked is total bullshit 2) Second of all even when someone is provoked into committing an unspeakable crime, the person who commits the crime is ALWAYS more responsible that the person who allegedly “provoked” them 3) Thirdly, See #1 because it bears repeating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, BeaverFever said: 1) First of all the claim that Putin was provoked is total bullshit 2) Second of all even when someone is provoked into committing an unspeakable crime, the person who commits the crime is ALWAYS more responsible that the person who allegedly “provoked” them 3) Thirdly, See #1 because it bears repeating. Whatever you need to tell yourself in order to rationalize your support for Nazis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Whatever you need to tell yourself in order to rationalize your support for Nazis. That’s not really a rebuttal that’s just name calling. You do know that Zelensky is Jewish right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: I'd say NATO holds the majority of the blame for this conflict. I realize that to you, Ukraine and NATO can do no wrong. But not everybody shares your glowing ideals about the corrupt Zelensky and his equally corrupt NATO chums. Says a fan of Putin. Keep pumping out those Kremlin talking points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted October 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: Whatever you need to tell yourself in order to rationalize your support for Nazis. Says the guy rationalizing Putin's direct copycatting of pre-WW2 Hitler. The projection and reversal of logic here is truly baffling to behold. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: …While denying Ukrainian right to sovereignty or self defence. They can have all the sovereignty and self defence...THEY can muster...ON THEIR OWN! NATO has no business in this. ZERO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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