Zeitgeist Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 58 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Appealing to minority does not make you right either. There are lots of conspiracy theories that are just not right.... period Your arguments suck Tit for tat You don’t understand that the constitution protects minority rights. Hitler was elected by a majority. You don’t value rights and you think there’s something admirable about belabouring your lame argument. There isn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 21 hours ago, Contrarian said: Da, Tovarish. Proletarier aller Länder, vereinigt Euch!"Proletarians of all countries, unite!" First seek to understand before you pipe up. Stakeholder capitalism is a bad brand of capitalism that uses the cover of “progressive” government policy to reinforce the power of government. In exchange, government gives corporations outsized power. The result is supposedly virtuous policies paid for on the backs of low paid workers and consumers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Irks the crap out of you when i disagree with you and point out you cannot leave well enough alone eh? LMAFO I cannot lose, I always have you to compare with and fall back on projection is a helluva drug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: First seek to understand before you pipe up. Stakeholder capitalism is a bad brand of capitalism that uses the cover of “progressive” government policy to reinforce the power of government. Where did you learn about this? "Stakeholder capitalism"? Or is it your idea ? It's interesting but anti-corporate ideas have been the sole domain of the left, I think, since the days of Standard Oil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: You don’t understand that the constitution protects minority rights. Hitler was elected by a majority. You don’t value rights and you think there’s something admirable about belabouring your lame argument. There isn’t. WTF??? I don't argue, I state my opinion. ..... which seems to bug the shit out of you. Don't like it, stop responding and I will too, but you keep on keeping on so, you must agree? Edited August 28, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: projection is a helluva drug Ha!! There you are again..... with nothing...again Ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: First seek to understand before you pipe up. Stakeholder capitalism is a bad brand of capitalism that uses the cover of “progressive” government policy to reinforce the power of government. In exchange, government gives corporations outsized power. The result is supposedly virtuous policies paid for on the backs of low paid workers and consumers. I would suggest that the poison pill in Canada is rather more cultural Canadian culture is really just 19th century Victorian colonial frozen in time, as a reaction to the much more disorderly America at the gates so the corporations in Canada don't have to impose this agenda upon Canadians in Canada, it's the other way round the Victorian missionary impulse runs amok in Canada the corporations here are simply giving Canadians what Canadians demand the low paid workers & consumers in Canada are not opposed to centrally planned do gooderism Canadians are utterly enthralled by centrally planned finger wagging moralizing missionary intervention most Canadians are falling over themselves to self congratulate for being holier than thou priggish self righteousness is the main driver of all social behaviour in Canada like Victorian Temperance Ladies from the 19th century, forever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Where did you learn about this? "Stakeholder capitalism"? Or is it your idea ? It's interesting but anti-corporate ideas have been the sole domain of the left, I think, since the days of Standard Oil. It’s been mentioned before and is NOT my idea. Okay we need backgrounders posted for people.: UN Sustainabile Development Goals and goals under the categories of Social, Governmental, Environmental (SGE’s) are used to push companies, governments, and consumers. They’re the result of international central planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, WestCanMan said: That goes back to dec 14 2020, when 100% of the population was unvaccinated. There were zero dbl-vaxed people until the flu season of '20-20 was over. If you compare the number of deaths from 2022 it's almost 90% fully vaxxed. You're obviously to retarded to realize that's because the vast majority of us are vaccinated. Quote An additional factor to consider is that as the pandemic wears on and a disproportionate number of unvaccinated people die from COVID, the unvaccinated population shrinks. This leaves a comparatively larger vaccinated group, leading to an increase in total deaths despite the lower death rate among vaccinated people. No vaccine is 100 percent effective, but immunization reduces the risk of dying from COVID substantially. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-compare-covid-deaths-for-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people/ Stupidity has always been COVID's favourite vector. Edited August 28, 2022 by eyeball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 11 hours ago, James99 said: Terms of employment?? These people do not work for the government. Many even own independent businesses. Terms of employment I agree with as that is a private business. They can do what they want. This is a government overstepping by mandating a vaccine or lose the livelihood that you have built. I do not need to answer and question that is as ignorant as yours. You clearly don't respect working people and their jobs. Any that do will understand what is meant by force in this context. It's anti-vaxxing retards that I have no respect for. I don't like being forced to accommodate them in my life, or my workplace. Screw every last one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Where did you learn about this? "Stakeholder capitalism"? Stakeholder capitalism is a system in which corporations are oriented to serve the interests of all their stakeholders. Among the key stakeholders are customers, suppliers, employees, shareholders and local communities. Under this system, a company's purpose is to create long-term value and not to maximize profits and enhance shareholder value at the cost of other stakeholder groups. https://www.investopedia.com/stakeholder-capitalism-4774323 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, dialamah said: Stakeholder capitalism is a system in which corporations are oriented to serve the interests of all their stakeholders. Among the key stakeholders are customers, suppliers, employees, shareholders and local communities. Under this system, a company's purpose is to create long-term value and not to maximize profits and enhance shareholder value at the cost of other stakeholder groups. https://www.investopedia.com/stakeholder-capitalism-4774323 politicized representatives of stakeholders with no skin in the game get to dictate to shareholders how the business they own runs with their ESG bullshit what could possibly go wrong? centrally planned committees of vanguards of the proletariat run the economy, sound familiar? stakeholder capitalism is just a nice sounding label for communism Edited August 28, 2022 by Yzermandius19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Ha, I wish LOL Yet, here you are, taking the bait..... again and again and again. Been there, done that and love waiting guys like you failing to do so Grow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 39 minutes ago, eyeball said: It's anti-vaxxing retards that I have no respect for. I don't like being forced to accommodate them in my life, or my workplace. Screw every last one of them. Grab a dictionary and see what a vaccine actually does ffs. FYI there's no such thing as a covid vaccine. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Grab a dictionary and see what a vaccine actually does ffs. FYI there's no such thing as a covid vaccine. In 1984 world, they just change the definition of vaccine... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, eyeball said: You're obviously to retarded to realize that's because the vast majority of us are vaccinated. Stupidity has always been COVID's favourite vector. Now you're just lying, and you know it. Shocker. The ancestral strain of covid was the strongest, with the worst outcomes. Delta and every subsequent strain thereafter has been weaker. Less people are dying because covid is weaker now. That is true of jabbed and unvaxed alike. FYI if the pseudovax was working then the mortality rate for the vaxed would be lower than that of the unvaxed, but that's not happening. What is happening is that people who never needed the vax in the first place are being injured by it. You're the last person on earth who should be talking about the stupidity of others. Edited August 28, 2022 by WestCanMan too kind to tell the whole truth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Grow up. Good one..... Ha!! And still taking the bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: In 1984 world, they just change the definition of vaccine... they change all the definitions to mean the opposite of what they are supposed to mean anti-racism now means racism stakeholder capitalism means communism inclusion now means segregation diversity now means zero diversity of thought woke now means imposing social injustice to rectify past social injustices the Orwellian word games are out of control Edited August 28, 2022 by Yzermandius19 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 29 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: they change all the definitions to mean the opposite of what they are supposed to mean anti-racism now means racism stakeholder capitalism means communism inclusion now means segregation diversity now means zero diversity of thought woke now means imposing social injustice to rectify past social injustices the Orwellian word games are out of control And the anti-fascists are a group that goes around attacking people to push the Dem's/CNN's false narratives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: And the anti-fascists are a group that goes around attacking people to push the Dem's/CNN's false narratives. the anti-fascists act more like fascists than they people they oppose very orwellian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: the anti-fascists act more like fascists than they people they oppose very orwellian that was always the point Antifaschistische Aktion from the Weimar Republic the concept was that they were going to beat the Nazis at their own game, preemptively then in the Cold War, they flipped over to East Germany as the SED, the founding & ruling East German Communist Party Edited August 28, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Where did you learn about this? "Stakeholder capitalism"? Or is it your idea ? It's interesting but anti-corporate ideas have been the sole domain of the left, I think, since the days of Standard Oil. 1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said: they change all the definitions to mean the opposite of what they are supposed to mean anti-racism now means racism stakeholder capitalism means communism inclusion now means segregation diversity now means zero diversity of thought woke now means imposing social injustice to rectify past social injustices the Orwellian word games are out of control That’s exactly right. The elites expiate their guilt for not actually wanting anything to do with working people by using progressive language. The conservatives are the true liberal-democrats now because they seek to limit oppressive overreach. They’re defending constitutional rights and laissez-faire free markets. The Liberal Party used to share that perspective but have become too interventionist and far left. Much of their current approach is politically correct posturing. They seem to want to remove individual discretion and have the state provide everything, including our viewpoints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougar Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) On 8/27/2022 at 6:56 AM, Aristides said: How many deaths will lifting a skirt prevent? How many deaths will getting a vaccine into a person prevent? Oh, so if there is the slightest change of death prevention let's roll up their skirts ? You will not be "preventing" in this case, you will be making brand new human beings. Don't know how this idea has escaped Trudeau yet. Edited August 28, 2022 by cougar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: That’s exactly right. The elites expiate their guilt for the people who prop these treasonous elites up, who rally around them to defend & be apologists for them that is fear because now the middle class white collar jobs are in peril these Ottawa bureaucrat types lash out at the "convoy" because they are afraid, they are afraid that they will be rendered surplus and reduced to the working classes themselves they cling to the elites, are cronies for the elites, in the hopes that it will save them in the end 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 34 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: They seem to want to remove individual discretion and have the state provide everything, including our viewpoints. on the bright side I would suggest that this is the death throes of the Natural Governing Party the power of the Liberal Party was always that they were the populists the Liberals were the bulwark against the elitist Tories now the Liberals are burning that legacy down it can only be a desperation move and I would say that is related to the financial & economic debt crises for which they have no solutions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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