Secret Police, the people with the lists

[Contrarian]

This is a topic dedicated to the Secret Police, the people with the lists.

Topic will be updated on a regular basis. I will start with the ruthless ones first. 

1. KGB -> Soviet Union's Secret Police. 

2. Okhrana -> Russian Tsar's Secret Police.



3. Stasi -> Easter German Communist Secret Police.

4. SS -> Nazi Germany's Secret Police.

5. Savak -> Iran's Royal Secret Police.

6. IRGC -> Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard.

 

 

Edited August 22, 2022 by Contrarian

[herbie]

strategically cropped photo of CSIS agents, so you can't see their shoelaces are all tied together...

CSIS photo

[Contrarian]

7. Securitatea -> Romanian Communist secret police.

8. Iron Guard -> Romanian Fascist militia.

Edited August 24, 2022 by Contrarian

[Contrarian]

9. KGB Codename: "Mikhailov"

Now Patriarch Kirill of Moscow.

A close ally of Russian leader Vladimir Putin, Kirill has described Putin’s rule as "a miracle of God."

During his tenure as Patriarch of Moscow Kirill has brought the Russian Orthodox Church closer to the Russian state.

According to material from the Soviet archives, Kirill was a KGB agent. This means he was more than just an informer, of whom there were millions in the Soviet Union. He was an active officer of the organization.

Sources: Internet

Edited August 28, 2022 by Contrarian

[Nationalist]

What is this thread supposed to accomplish?

Will we discuss all secret police or just the Soviet ones?

Shall we discuss the FBI or the CIA? Maybe the DOJ? How about the RCMP?

[Contrarian]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

What is this thread supposed to accomplish?

Will we discuss all secret police or just the Soviet ones?

Shall we discuss the FBI or the CIA? Maybe the DOJ? How about the RCMP?

Yes, why don't you do some work and add your piece. 

I added the ones i despise most,  I am BIAS, the CIA are like the Messiah where I am from after what the KGB did. 

[Nationalist]

Lol...well, I'm not gonna spend my time looking for pics. But here's my opinion of "secret police".

Espionage is an abhorrent practice. Whether directed internally or externally. 

Soviet secret police were notorious liars. The FBI have become notorious liars. Our own RCMP refused to charge Pixie-Dust for national security reasons.

We have laws. Today in The West, these supposed police agencies ignore the law they're supposed to uphold. They are nothing more than a modern extension of Stalin's KGB. A gross deformity of civil management. 

Edited August 30, 2022 by Nationalist

[DogOnPorch]

Trudeau arrives to inspect the new facilities to house Canadians who disagree with him.

 

Edited August 30, 2022 by DogOnPorch

[DogOnPorch]

1 hour ago, Contrarian said:

Yes, why don't you do some work and add your piece. 

I added the ones i despise most,  I am BIAS, the CIA are like the Messiah where I am from after what the KGB did. 

 

CIA...originator of Phoenix Program in South Viet-Nam. For the good guys, they ended-up killing a lot of innocent people.

 

[Contrarian]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

They are nothing more than a modern extension of Stalin's KGB. A gross deformity of civil management. 

Are you serious? You have no idea what the KGB, FSB, and the rest of the Eastern European secret police was doing or still doing today. To compare this to our western "excesses" is an insult. 

Do you think if you would have worked in East Germany and someone would have approached on a forum to work for the good of the country, you would have said no? Come on. I can guarantee you if there is a nationalistic revolution in this country and let us imagine you even defeat the loyalists 😆, you would not work in the secret police for nationalism?

In my opinion you probably would. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Contrarian said:

Are you serious? You have no idea what the KGB, FSB, and the rest of the Eastern European secret police was doing or still doing today. To compare this to our western "excesses" is an insult. 

Do you think if you would have worked in East Germany and someone would have approached on a forum to work for the good of the country, you would have said no? Come on. I can guarantee you if there is a nationalistic revolution in this country and let us imagine you even defeat the loyalists 😆, you would not work in the secret police for nationalism?

In my opinion you probably would. 

I would not soil my soul.

BTW...I married a defector and worked for Canadian External Affairs abroad. I know quite a bit about both the soviet secret service and the RCMP.

[Contrarian]

On 8/30/2022 at 11:41 PM, Nationalist said:

I know quite a bit about both the soviet secret service and the RCMP.

You were a tourist in Eastern Europe. I can guarantee you it is different when you are a regular person living there daily with the KGB brethern watching your every move. 

To compare such a system to the RCMP it is lack of perspective in my opinion. This is what happens when you were there like a tourist.

Can your significant other keep a straight face when you start saying that you know about the Soviet Secret Service? How about the empty markets? Or like adapting your stomach like a wolf because of lack of food? So until you go through these things in real life scenario then we will talk about equating a KGB system to the RCMP. 

This is heaven here in Canada. You just can't value it. Some have seen the other side and we do. 

Edited September 2, 2022 by Contrarian

[Nationalist]

On 9/1/2022 at 10:51 PM, Contrarian said:

You were a tourist in Eastern Europe. I can guarantee you it is different when you are a regular person living there daily with the KGB brethern watching your every move. 

To compare such a system to the RCMP it is lack of perspective in my opinion. This is what happens when you were there like a tourist.

Can your significant other keep a straight face when you start saying that you know about the Soviet Secret Service? How about the empty markets? Or like adapting your stomach like a wolf because of lack of food? So until you go through these things in real life scenario then we will talk about equating a KGB system to the RCMP. 

This is heaven here in Canada. You just can't value it. Some have seen the other side and we do. 

Actually I lived there for almost a decade and our daughter was born in Prague. 

But you have a point. I got there after the velvet revolution and experienced the anarchy of the aftermath. 

Oh the Czechs were so happy to welcome "The West" that they sold out their own culture and national infrastructure. The EU has fked the Czechs dry. Same with the Poles.

My wife left there for freedom and today says Canada is beginning act like soviet Czech. 

One last thing. I've been in IT for a very long time and if you think you're not being monitored here...you're dead wrong.

[Contrarian]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

My wife left there for freedom and today says Canada is beginning act like soviet Czech. 

One last thing. I've been in IT for a very long time and if you think you're not being monitored here...you're dead wrong.

Yes, I know similar people like your wife. They complain about Canada, take a trip there and after a few weeks they can't wait to come back. 1 person, he did this switch a few times, now he finally settled down here. He rather pay his taxes more but seen by a doctor without paying a bribe.

The second part of your message reminds me of a story when I was with a friend and I told Alexa to turn on the lights. The person beside me said "You think someone is listening on the other side of that device?" and my answer is: 

Of course "they" are listening, everyone is watching, the warfare is cyber, war for information, I just don't take it and spin in a conspiration with aliens or the one world government. Is about power. 

If your nationalism ever comes to power in Canada and they make you into a colonel you are not going to watch what people are saying about your system? That is how you maintain power, control. Everyone does it. 

Edited September 3, 2022 by Contrarian

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Contrarian said:

Yes, I know similar people like your wife. They complain about Canada, take a trip there and after a few weeks they can't wait to come back. 1 person, he did this switch a few times, now he finally settled down here. He rather pay his taxes more but seen by a doctor without paying a bribe.

The second part of your message reminds me of a story when I was with a friend and I told Alexa to turn on the lights. The person beside me said "You think someone is listening on the other side of that device?" and my answer is: 

Of course "they" are listening, everyone is watching, the warfare is cyber, war for information, I just don't take it and spin in a conspiration with aliens or the one world government. Is about power. 

If your nationalism ever comes to power in Canada and they make you into a colonel you are not going to watch what people are saying about your system? That is how you maintain power, control. Everyone does it. 

Not everyone. Not even close. Were I a colonel...as you suggest...I'd be there to protect YOUR freedoms. My wife's freedoms. Our children's freedoms.

Money can buy you a lot of things in this corporeal state...but it cannot buy you a clean soul. The ability to relax knowing you've done what's right by the world...

And by yourself. 

As for your theory about my wife and people like her..."pshaw" I say. My wife's mom was here during the Trump years. Didn't speak a lick o' English. But 'Babi' would watch the news...CNN...CBC...and point at the TV and say in Czech...

"That! That tone! That 'lepsi nes ty.' I know that well. The Germans had it...the Russians had it. Beware of that."

And ya know what? She's right.

Edited September 3, 2022 by Nationalist

[Contrarian]

30 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I'd be there to protect YOUR freedoms. My wife's freedoms. Our children's freedoms.

I can guarantee you in the pictures above, aside from the pshychopaths, you will find humans that at the time this is what they said to themselves too. 

In the name of "protecting others" the KGB and SS created a terror system in Europe. 

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Edited September 3, 2022 by Contrarian

[Nationalist]

42 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

I can guarantee you in the pictures above, aside from the pshychopaths, you will find humans that at the time this is what they said to themselves too. 

In the name of "protecting others" the KGB and SS created a terror system in Europe. 

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Yes well...our nation was built and is based on certain ideals. These ideals proved to produce the most affluent society ever. All new...all functional...all possible. Granted...within our new society, we've developed our own sort of "royalty", but hard work can still elevate the commoner to dizzying heights.

The more governments try to harness free enterprise...the more they hurt the commoner. We have a Charter of Rights. That is what needs to be protected and adhered to. That is what our leaders our supposed to protect.

Yet Pixie-Dust has deficated on it. 

[Contrarian]

CASE: North Korean Secret Police acting on orders from Kim-Jong-Un

After finding out that his brother, Kim Jong-nam, was working with the CIA Kim-Jong-Un had him assassinated while traveling through an airport in Malaysia. 

As the attack was carried out, in scenes that would not be out of place in a James Bond film, at least four North Korean agents were hiding nearby.

In the hours after the attack, those agents passed through immigration checkpoints and boarded flights out of the country, accompanied by a North Korean diplomat. Their flight routes back to Pyongyang were carefully calculated to avoid countries that may ground their planes and arrest the men.

Edited September 5, 2022 by Contrarian

[Contrarian]

Ana Montes, who spied for Cuba in "one of the most damaging" espionage cases in U.S. history, released from prison

A former analyst for the Defense Intelligence Agency, the U.S. military's spy arm, walked free from a federal prison in Fort Worth, Texas, on Friday after more than 20 years behind bars. 

Montes spied for Cuba for 17 years, revealing the identities of the United States' undercover intelligence officers and its highly sensitive collection capabilities, until her arrest in 2001.

By day, she was the Defense Intelligence Agency's senior Cuba analyst.

At night, she typed up pages and pages of government secrets that she had memorized, passing them to Cuban intelligence. 

(CBS News and other random sources). 

Documentary: 

Edited January 13 by Contrarian

[Contrarian]

Ukrainian Spy killed due to "no unified coordination between agencies" says adviser

Former banker and Ukrainian intelligence officer Denys Kireyev was killed because, in the first days of the war, there was “no unified coordination” between Ukrainian law enforcement agencies, presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak said in an interview with Baltic news website Delfi.

Podolyak is also a member of the Ukrainian delegation to talks with Russia.

“It was the first days of the war. His death was related to the fact that there was no unified coordination between law enforcement structures. On the one hand, there were certain complaints against him, but on the other hand, these complaints were not resolved via a dialogue format,” said Podolyak.

The presidential adviser stressed that Kireyev had not been part of the delegation at peace talks with Russia. According to Podolyak, the banker was connected to Ukraine’s Main Directorate of Intelligence and “consulted” on the trajectory of the military clashes. He said the same thing an interview with journalist Yulia Latynina in March 2022.

Podolyak also stressed that Kireyev was not a Russian agent, though he claims that Moscow tried to present Kireyev as a spy within the delegation of Ukrainian negotiators.

The Office of the President of Ukraine did not specify whether Kireyev’s death was investigated or whether anyone was held responsible.

Kyrylo Budanov, the head of Ukraine’s military intelligence agency, told the Wall Street Journal that the banker Denys Kireyev began working with Ukrainian intelligence in the spring of 2021. According to Budanov, it was thanks to Kireyev’s information that Ukraine deployed troops to defend Antonov Airport (formerly Hostomel) and were able to hold Kyiv.

After Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Kireyev participated in the first round of talks between the warring countries, in Belarus. In March, the intelligence agent was killed, reportedly by members of Ukraine’s Security Service. 

https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/01/19/podolyak-banker-denys-kireyev-who-warned-of-russia-s-plans-to-attack-kyiv-was-killed-because-of-lack-of-unified-coordination-among-law-enforcement

Edited January 22 by Contrarian

[Contrarian]

• A covert team of Israeli contractors who claim to have manipulated more than 30 elections around the world using hacking, sabotage and automated disinformation on social media have been exposed in a new investigation.
• The unit is run by Tal Hanan, a former Israeli special forces operative who now works privately using the pseudonym 'Jorge'.
• In more than six hours of secretly recorded meetings, Hanan and his team explained how they could gather intelligence on rivals, including by using hacking methods to access Gmail and Telegram accounts
• For more than six months, undercover reporters posed as consultants working on behalf of a businessman who wanted to delay an African election
• As the man calling himself “Jorge” shook hands with two prospective clients, he joked: “You saw what it says on the door, right? It says nothing. That’s who we are. We are nothing.”
• He was smartly dressed with an expensive watch, flashier than the consultants – who were in fact undercover reporters – had expected. It was late December and despite several online meetings, this was the first time the consultants had seen the man they had been communicating with. He had kept his camera off in each of the five previous video calls.
• And now a warm, disarming greeting, but still no name.
• Flanked by two of his colleagues, Jorge launched into a demonstration on a wall-hung screen. It was similar to the ones the consultants had been shown in the Zoom meetings: a presentation of how, so Jorge boasted, he had manipulated more than two dozen elections around the world through hacking, the spread of disinformation and subterfuge.
  
  Full Story: 
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/revealed-disinformation-team-jorge-claim-meddling-elections-tal-hanan
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/disinformation-hacking-operative-team-jorge-tal-hanan

Edited February 15 by Contrarian

[Contrarian]

 

The "ordinary" family at No 35: suspected Russian spies await trial in Slovenia.

Couple arrested with huge amount of cash and history of extensive European travel now allegedly pawns in diplomatic game.

Maria Mayer and Ludwig Gisch settled in Slovenia’s capital, Ljubljana, in 2017, with their two young children. People who met the couple tended to like them; the new arrivals from Latin America were friendly but never overbearing, inquisitive but never pushy.

Mayer opened an online art gallery, while Gisch ran an IT startup. They told friends that a nagging fear of street crime at home in Argentina had prompted their move to Europe. Peaceful, mountainous Slovenia offered a refreshing change of pace.

In interviews with about a dozen people who knew one or both of the couple, two words kept cropping up: “ordinary” and “nice”. Neighbours insisted the people living at No 35 were a run-of-the-mill family, and said the children could often be heard playing in the garden, shrieking in Spanish.

It therefore came as a shock when, early in December, Mayer and Gisch were the targets of one of the most secretive and well-coordinated police and intelligence operations in Slovenia’s recent history.

Officers swarmed the house, arresting the couple and taking their two children into social care. Police also raided an office owned by the couple. Among the finds, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation: an “enormous” amount of cash; so much, in fact, that it took hours to count.

In late January, Slovenian outlets broke news of the arrests, linking the pair to Russian intelligence. Sources in Ljubljana told the Guardian this week that “Maria and Ludwig” were in fact elite Russian spies known as “illegals”. The arrests came after Slovenia received a tipoff from a foreign intelligence service.

Full Article: 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/24/suspected-russian-spies-trial-slovenia

Edited March 30 by Contrarian
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