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The plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer actually came from the FBI, and not from anyone who was charged for the alleged attempt.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-reason-publics-confidence-fbi-plummeted

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 These details are real, by the way. They came out at trial. Then the bureau recruited a convicted felon and a long time FBI informant called Stephen Robeson to introduce a new idea to Fox as well as to Barry Croft. This time the idea was to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer. Robeson, with the FBI's money, organized several events including a national militia conference in Ohio, training in Wisconsin and a meeting in Delaware, FBI orchestrating all of this.  

If you read the article, you'll see that among other things:

1) the FBI created a FB page called "Patriot 3%ers" to get this going,

2) they offered a basement-dwelling pothead (who they smoked up with) credit cards with $5,000 on them so that he could buy guns and ammo on 5 different occasions and he refused. 

3) The FBI came up with a plan to shoot guns at the governor's mansion and at her cabin, but their plan was rejected.

And like I said earlier, the plan to kidnap the gov came directly from the FBI themselves. 

 

Remember that the FBI and Whitmer herself pimped this as an investigation into people who plotted to "kidnap her and maybe kill her". 

It wasn't that at all, it was an investigation into people who were given drugs, who were offered cash by the FBI for guns, who were offered the help of an explosives expert by the FBI, so that they could commit several different crimes - all of which were planned by the FBI.

Remember Ray Epps? The guy who was trying to convince people to try to gain entry into the Capitol Buildings but was never charged with sedition....? He was suspected of being an FBI plant before the mostly peaceful protest at the capitol even happened. That was also before the FBI charged everyone else but him for crimes there. Now we know he was a plant for certain.

The FBI is a cruel joke on law enforcement everywhere. It's no surprise that the Dems demonize legitimate police officers of every stripe aside from the FBI, while continuously using the FBI to conduct their various attempts at fraud on the American people. The FBI is a criminal syndicate that works for the DNC, and not an actual law enforcement agency.

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There's also a pretty well reasoned suspicion that the FBI may have had something to do with that pipe bomb planted the eve of Jan 6 that never went off.

Tucker reams off a list of the misdeeds of Biden's weaponized DOJ and its FBI enforcers starting at the 9:30 mark of this one:

He has a good one on the Gretchen Whitmer kidnap hoax too but I lost it.

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Also, does anybody remember when those 2 muslim terrorists tried to shoot up Pamela Gellar's "Let's Draw Mohammed" contest but got shot up themselves?

Even if your American corporate left or Canadian government paid media told you about it they may have left this bit out:

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The Daily Beast recently reported that “days before an ISIS sympathizer attacked a cartoon contest in Garland, Texas, he received a text from an undercover FBI agent. ‘Tear up Texas,’ the agent messaged Elton Simpson days before he opened fire at the Draw Muhammad event, according to an affidavit (pdf) filed in federal court Thursday.”

The Beast’s Katie Zavadski also revealed that the undercover agent was at our free speech event in Garland, where Simpson and Nadir Soofi attempted a jihad massacre.

 

Undercover FBI Agent Told Garland Jihadist: ‘Tear Up Texas’

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57 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

There's also a pretty well reasoned suspicion that the FBI may have had something to do with that pipe bomb planted the eve of Jan 6 that never went off.

Tucker reams off a list of the misdeeds of Biden's weaponized DOJ and its FBI enforcers starting at the 9:30 mark of this one:

He has a good one on the Gretchen Whitmer kidnap hoax too but I lost it.

Yeah, the pipe bomb was planted the night before and sat there until about 1 minute before the first gates were pushed back at the capitol. 

I wonder if the first gates were initially attacked by FBI plants. And it's still weird that any kind of conspiracy theory about the FBI seems realistic now. 

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35 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Also, does anybody remember when those 2 muslim terrorists tried to shoot up Pamela Gellar's "Let's Draw Mohammed" contest but got shot up themselves?

Even if your American corporate left or Canadian government paid media told you about it they may have left this bit out:

Undercover FBI Agent Told Garland Jihadist: ‘Tear Up Texas’

It seems like every time there's a terrorist attack it's always by "a person known to the government". Lately I've seen a few places where FBI agents were allegedly onto them, even working with them to some extent. I don't have any links so I'll just leave that as a hollow opinion for now. 

I honestly hate being a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, it's like a kick in the gut to accuse the US gov't of that, but there are serious questions about the fall of WTC 7 that the government is determined to brush under the rug.

It's the only concrete/steel structure in the history of the earth to "collapse due to fire", yet there was only a small amount of fire in there for a short period of time before it fell. Other steel structures have been completely engulfed in flames until there was just a skeleton left but they never collapsed. 

If that's not enough, police in NYC predicted the fall of WTC 7 down to the minute. There used to be video of them telling people to get out of the area because #7 was "coming down" in the very moments before it actually fell. That was an absolutely astonishing "prediction", considering that not one expert in the fields of architecture or structural engineering would have expected it to happen at all. 

Larry Silverstein also said that they made the decision to "pull" the building, which is industry jargon for a controlled demolition where the building falls within its own outer perimeter. That also seems nearly impossible because controlled demos take weeks of planning and preparation, it's not the kind of thing that you can do in less than 12 hours, especially when it's in a building that's beside two other buildings that just had planes crash into them. Who would bring explosives into WTC7 when there were massive buildings burning beside it, in a possibly ongoing terrorist attack? 

There are a lot of other incredible coincidences and highly unusual things that took place on 9/11. Our generations and the current US gov't are willing to ignore it but I think that at some point in the future powerful people or governments will re-examine the whole incident and come to completely different conclusions from what the 9/11 commission did. 

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10 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Yeah, isn't it cute when they virtue signal their ignorance?

Like refusing knowledge if it says something they're not comfortable with makes them in some way superior.

Cognitive dissonance is a bitch. 

I personally don't like taking in information which deconstructs my own worldviews, but that doesn't mean that I choose to remain ignorant like some Antifa/BLM acolyte or a CNN sycophant with TDS. 

I'm a law and order guy. I'd love to believe in the integrity of the RCMP and FBI. If they're a failure then our society is in no small way a failure itself. But here's where we are, and if we don't openly acknowledge the fact that we have a serious problem then it's just gonna get worse.

It's not like the FBI or RCMP can just keep on getting away with shit and then one day they'll magically decide to knock it off all on their own. 

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3 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

The Whitmer Kidnapping plot was an FBI fabricated hoax. Go ahead Jack and herb show us how superior you are by proving that wrong. Bet you can't.

Of course they can't. They'll never even try.

At best they'll throw some sandbox insults around and leave.

Beave was the only leftist here in a long time that would attempt to address core points of an issue, but it's always a losing battle for leftists because the facts are never on their side. 

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At the exact same time as the FBI were lying to Americans about their fabricated attempt to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer (Oct 8 2020), the FBI and the intel community were lying to Americans about the validity of the Hunter laptop and telling them that it was just Russian disinformation. The MSM ran with that claim, and social media even banned the New York Post for publishing information about the laptop which we now know to be true.

Both of these things occurred in the last month before the 2020 election.

So, if you're keeping score, the FBI ran a 3-year smear campaign against Trump and tried to delegitimize the 2016 election, then they ran the Governor Whitmer kidnapping hoax to discredit Republicans of all stripes before the 2020 election, and they also called actual, verifiable information from the laptop about Biden's illicit activity "Russian disinformation" in the run-up to the 2020 election.

And don't forget, the FBI had access to the laptop a very long time before they called it Russian disinformation in the lead-up to the election (it was dropped off at the repair shop in April of 2019 and the FBI seized it in Dec 2019). There's no way that they didn't know it was legit after having the actual laptop itself in their own possession for nearly 11 months. And if they knew that it was legit, then their Russian disinformation story was actually a fabrication.

There are many different kinds of lies (denial, omission, exaggeration/minimization, etc) but the most obvious and the worst is fabrication. When you go to the length to create an actual story which you know is false, that's when you're a liar of the worst kind. That's what the FBI has proven themselves to be now.  

@Michael Hardner

You said a few days ago that you find it hard to believe that the FBI is really as bad as we were saying, and that was before this Whitmer thread.

Is it it time to seriously consider that the FBI is the KGB of the western world?

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On 8/17/2022 at 12:42 PM, Infidel Dog said:

The Whitmer Kidnapping plot was an FBI fabricated hoax. Go ahead Jack and herb show us how superior you are by proving that wrong. Bet you can't.

You guys are always throwing crap out there that you don't back up. The onus of proof is on the one making the allegation. 

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On 8/23/2022 at 10:29 AM, Aristides said:

Funny considering a jury just convicted two people of conspiring to kidnap Whitmer. Obviously they are also part of the FBI plot.?

Funny that there were more FBI agents known to be involved in fabricating and participating in the kidnapping plot than there are criminals convicted of merely participating in their attempt. ?

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On 8/23/2022 at 10:32 AM, Aristides said:

You guys are always throwing crap out there that you don't back up. The onus of proof is on the one making the allegation. 

Oh look, another ad hominem attack lol.

FYI there is no lack of proof in this thread.

If there's something which you think is unproven then why don't you name it. 

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16 hours ago, Aristides said:

There is a total lack of "proof". 

FYI this thread wasn't created for you, it's for the kinds of people who can read and follow links. 

All the proof is actually here if you know where to look, but I know that's too much to expect from leftists, whose only skills are making snotty comments and ad hominem attacks. 

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16 hours ago, dialamah said:

If they don't like it, it's a plot, requiring dozens or hundreds or thousands to be in on it.

If a judge decided that there was enough evidence for the defence to proceed with an entrapment defence (which isn't automatically allowed) against the FBI (how sad is that?), and two people were acquitted because the jury believed that the FBI was guilty of entrapment, then you can all it what you want. I don't really care about your own personal labels. 

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