Rebound Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 55 minutes ago, Nationalist said: https://nypost.com/2022/08/23/what-did-biden-really-know-about-the-drive-to-raid-mar-a-lago/ In May, the President affirmed that Mr. Trump had no executive privilege over his Presidential documents, and that was that. Everything else is pure conjecture and fantasy. “But he could have known…” is not proof of anything, it’s just conspiracy theory BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Rebound said: In May, the President affirmed that Mr. Trump had no executive privilege over his Presidential documents, and that was that. Everything else is pure conjecture and fantasy. “But he could have known…” is not proof of anything, it’s just conspiracy theory BS. Ya...right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Ya...right... Me: Provides Facts. You: Provides Conspiracy Nonsense Let me ask you a question so simple, a 2nd grader could answer it: Since the guy you voted for said that careless handling of classified information is “the worst crime” (his words), and ran for office promising to jail people for it, and signed a law strengthening penalties for it… why WOULDN’T the Justice Department take the most basic of steps in getting back classified information from someone not authorized to possess it? They didn’t even charge the guy with a crime. He signed an affidavit swearing that he’d returned all of it, then a witness came forward saying he hadn’t… so why shouldn’t the DOJ get this material back? Obviously, ASKING the jackass wasn’t working. There weren’t “negotiations.” There was nothing whatsoever to negotiate. NO RECORDS he created while in the White House were his property. None of it, especially the top secret nuclear secrets of a foreign nation. The excuses are pathetic, which is why you’re resorting to conspiracy theories, make-believe and outright lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 Ya right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, sharkman said: Ya right. Ya, right… didn’t expect a Trump supporter to be able to answer a question that a second grader could answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, Rebound said: Me: Provides Facts. You: Provides Conspiracy Nonsense Let me ask you a question so simple, a 2nd grader could answer it: Since the guy you voted for said that careless handling of classified information is “the worst crime” (his words), and ran for office promising to jail people for it, and signed a law strengthening penalties for it… why WOULDN’T the Justice Department take the most basic of steps in getting back classified information from someone not authorized to possess it? They didn’t even charge the guy with a crime. He signed an affidavit swearing that he’d returned all of it, then a witness came forward saying he hadn’t… so why shouldn’t the DOJ get this material back? Obviously, ASKING the jackass wasn’t working. There weren’t “negotiations.” There was nothing whatsoever to negotiate. NO RECORDS he created while in the White House were his property. None of it, especially the top secret nuclear secrets of a foreign nation. The excuses are pathetic, which is why you’re resorting to conspiracy theories, make-believe and outright lies. Gee...you're 7 years old? 1. I didn't vote for Trump because I happen to be Canadian. 2. Were they already at the residence...twice...for these Earth Shattering documents? Yes I think they were. 3. Had Trump not told them that they can ask for anything else they need? Yes...he did. 4. Does the POTUS have the ultimate power to declassify anything he wants? Well...lol...sadly for you and the Libbies...yes the POTUS does have that power. 5. The initial warrant was in fact...illegal. and finally... 6. This exchange of documents with the archives apparently happens about every time a POTUS steps down. NEVER have the DOJ and FBI gotten involved with the retrieval of the archives want. But you blubbering little Tweenkies just can't stop your insanity. "Raw Raw...Get Trump. Who cares what laws you have to break to do it...just get the fcker!" and ya know what? I can hardly wait till the pig pies you twerps have spread about...comes back on ya. remember all those judge positions Obama left for Trump to fill? Perhaps even the SCOTUS? Enjoy the mid-terms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Gee...you're 7 years old? 1. I didn't vote for Trump because I happen to be Canadian. 2. Were they already at the residence...twice...for these Earth Shattering documents? Yes I think they were. 3. Had Trump not told them that they can ask for anything else they need? Yes...he did. 4. Does the POTUS have the ultimate power to declassify anything he wants? Well...lol...sadly for you and the Libbies...yes the POTUS does have that power. 5. The initial warrant was in fact...illegal. and finally... 6. This exchange of documents with the archives apparently happens about every time a POTUS steps down. NEVER have the DOJ and FBI gotten involved with the retrieval of the archives want. But you blubbering little Tweenkies just can't stop your insanity. "Raw Raw...Get Trump. Who cares what laws you have to break to do it...just get the fcker!" and ya know what? I can hardly wait till the pig pies you twerps have spread about...comes back on ya. remember all those judge positions Obama left for Trump to fill? Perhaps even the SCOTUS? Enjoy the mid-terms. You Are Wrong. Pursuant to the Atomic Energy Act of 1954, the President does not have the authority to declassify any Classified nuclear-related information. Only the NRC, with the agreement of the DOD, can declassify. If they disagree on whether to declassify, only then can the President decide whether or not to declassify. Also, Trump signed an affidavit stating that no more classified documents remained at MAL. We now know this is untrue, so he’s committed perjury and obstruction of Justice. Page 90: Edited September 7, 2022 by Rebound 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, Rebound said: You Are Wrong. Pursuant to the Atomic Energy Act of 1954, the President does not have the authority to declassify any Classified nuclear-related information. Only the NRC, with the agreement of the DOD, can declassify. If they disagree on whether to declassify, only then can the President decide whether or not to declassify. Also, Trump signed an affidavit stating that no m ore classified documents remained at MAL. We now know this is untrue, so he’s committed perjury and obstruction of Justice. Page 90: "Raw Raw...Get Trump. Who cares what laws you have to break to do it...just get the fcker!" Psst...you and your fixation will get nothing...nada...zilch. And I bet you don't even realize it. Try not to cream your jeans prematurely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Nationalist said: "Raw Raw...Get Trump. Who cares what laws you have to break to do it...just get the fcker!" Psst...you and your fixation will get nothing...nada...zilch. And I bet you don't even realize it. Try not to cream your jeans prematurely. You’re the one who doesn’t care what laws the man broke. No law was broken in obtaining a legal search warrant to obtain the illegally stolen classified nuclear documents. Edited September 7, 2022 by Rebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, Rebound said: You’re the one who doesn’t care what laws the man broke. No law was broken in obtaining a legal search warrant to obtain the illegally stolen classified nuclear documents. General search warrants happen to be illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: General search warrants happen to be illegal. They're literally inventing stuff as they go along. The President is Commander in Chief and privy to all so-called secrets. It isn't some deep state bureaucrat as they're trying to now imply. The President decides...that's what they do. They don't need some CIA or FBI agent's permission. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: They're literally inventing stuff as they go along. The President is Commander in Chief and privy to all so-called secrets. It isn't some deep state bureaucrat as they're trying to now imply. The President decides...that's what they do. They don't need some CIA or FBI agent's permission. I know that...and you know that...but the boundless one seems to think trashing the laws so that they can "Get Trump" is worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I know that...and you know that...but the boundless one seems to think trashing the laws so that they can "Get Trump" is worth it. As a few folks pointed-out, Obama did the very same thing only to the tune of millions of documents without any FBI raids into a 16 year olds' bedroom. Or the First Lady's underwear...which apparently happened. Edited September 7, 2022 by DogOnPorch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: As a few folks pointed-out, Obama did the very same thing only to the tune of millions of documents without any FBI raids into a 16 year olds' bedroom. Or the First Lady's underwear...which apparently happened. "A few folks". Sure thing. https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-obama-million-documents-929954890662 https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2022/nr22-001 Edited September 7, 2022 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Aristides said: "A few folks". Sure thing. https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-obama-million-documents-929954890662 https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2022/nr22-001 Yes well... 1. Nobody trusts the media or the bureaucracies. 2. None of this negates the fact that general search warrants are illegal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Yes well... 1. Nobody trusts the media or the bureaucracies. 2. None of this negates the fact that general search warrants are illegal. We've investigated ourselves via our paid-for media and found ourselves innocent on all counts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 Just now, DogOnPorch said: We've investigated ourselves via our paid-for media and found ourselves innocent on all counts. Indeed. Truth for outraged little people and dopes who can't read between the lines. We need to fix our education system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Yes well... 1. Nobody trusts the media or the bureaucracies. 2. None of this negates the fact that general search warrants are illegal. No, you just trust people who make shit up. If, Trump says he declassified all this stuff, obviously he knew he had it in spite of saying he didn't. Elementary logic is a bitch. If you bother to read the warrant, it is quite specific about what they were after but you wouldn't know that because you just trust people who make shit up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 6 hours ago, Rebound said: Since the guy you voted for said that careless handling of classified information is “the worst crime” (his words), What's more dangerous: classified info on an unsecured server in Hillary Clinton's basement [which is known to have been hacked several times], or in boxes at Mar-a-Lago, which is protected by the Secret Service? Thanks for comin' out, buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, Aristides said: No, you just trust people who make shit up. If, Trump says he declassified all this stuff, obviously he knew he had it in spite of saying he didn't. Elementary logic is a bitch. If you bother to read the warrant, it is quite specific about what they were after but you wouldn't know that because you just trust people who make shit up. This reminds me a lot of when Trump was saying "I didn't collude with Russia", because he knew all along that he didn't collude with Russia, but Dems and their MSM were all saying: "TRUMP IS A LIAR! WE KNOW THAT HE COLLUDED WITH RUSSIA!". Now everyone on earth knows that Trump was telling the truth and the MSM and Dems were lying, and the FBI was committing crimes and abusing their power. This is another scenario where Trump knows what's going on and the MSM is pretending that they know best and Trump is a liar. This is supposed to drag on until after the mid-terms, and the damage is done, then it will fold like a cheap tent. I don't think that it will be so easy to prove FBI malfeasance this time, all they really need is 1 page from 1 doc to make the claim that they had a right to be there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 On 9/6/2022 at 2:37 PM, Yzermandius19 said: what's really going to be entertaining is him getting elected in 2024 you might not find it so entertaining but I certainly will Everybody who hates America and freedom will be happy if Trump is re-elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rebound said: Everybody who hates America and freedom will be happy if Trump is re-elected. You are only half right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: This reminds me a lot of when Trump was saying "I didn't collude with Russia", because he knew all along that he didn't collude with Russia, but Dems and their MSM were all saying: "TRUMP IS A LIAR! WE KNOW THAT HE COLLUDED WITH RUSSIA!". Now everyone on earth knows that Trump was telling the truth and the MSM and Dems were lying, and the FBI was committing crimes and abusing their power. This is another scenario where Trump knows what's going on and the MSM is pretending that they know best and Trump is a liar. This is supposed to drag on until after the mid-terms, and the damage is done, then it will fold like a cheap tent. I don't think that it will be so easy to prove FBI malfeasance this time, all they really need is 1 page from 1 doc to make the claim that they had a right to be there. Except that this one nuclear document is a poison pill. Isn’t it interesting that they don’t name the nation whose nuclear abilities, etc., are contained therein? Such a huge deal, and yet let’s not name the nation involved. Because, 1) the nation involved is Iran. 2) it’s nuclear abilities are directly tied to a treaty a former president gave them. Without so much as a signature from Iran. This document was put there for the FBI to find, and they took the bait. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Aristides said: No, you just trust people who make shit up. If, Trump says he declassified all this stuff, obviously he knew he had it in spite of saying he didn't. Elementary logic is a bitch. If you bother to read the warrant, it is quite specific about what they were after but you wouldn't know that because you just trust people who make shit up. Nothing will come of this. Just watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Nothing will come of this. Just watch. Stories currently airing on CNN: - inflation -illegal immigration -TRUMP STOLE NUCLEAR SECRETS FROM THE WHITEHOUSE!!!! -crime rates -fentanyl deaths -THREE HOURS OF DEADLY RIOTING ON JANUARY 6TH!!!!! -vaccine success [abject failure] rates Priorities, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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