Nationalist Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: wishful thinking doesn't change the fact that they have a large nuclear arsenal as long as they remain a geopolitical threat to America and America remains a geopolitical threat to them they aren't going to become best friends it's just not in the cards Which is sad IMO. We're Russia and the USA alies, nobody could stand against them. Not even China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Which is sad IMO. We're Russia and the USA alies, nobody could stand against them. Not even China. no one can stand against America now including China and Russia Edited August 11, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: no one can stand against America now including China and Russia https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58974627 Are you sure? I have a feeling that other nations think the US military is a joke now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Nationalist said: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58974627 Are you sure? I have a feeling that other nations think the US military is a joke now. other nations military's are an even bigger joke Edited August 11, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: other nations militaries are an even bigger joke Oh well that makes all this crap OK then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Oh well that makes all this crap OK then... strawman if you are basing your beliefs on the delusion that America is weaker than it's enemies finding out the actual reality leads to cognitive dissonance fueled responses like this Edited August 11, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 36 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: strawman if you are basing your beliefs on the delusion that America is weaker than it's enemies finding out the actual reality leads to cognitive dissonance fueled responses like this Not at all. The image the US military is projecting is laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: The image the US military is projecting is laughable. perception and reality can be two very different things judging American military strength based on the woke image they are presenting is a mistake they still clearly out class any potential challengers regardless of how laughable their image is Edited August 11, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: perception and reality can be two very different things judging American military strength based on the woke image they are presenting is a mistake they still clearly out class any potential challengers Yes I'm quite sure the "New US Military" scares the hell outta China and Russia. Look at Taiwan for instance. Do you figure China gives a rat's ass what the US military will do about their muscle flexing? Edited August 11, 2022 by Nationalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Yes I'm quite sure the "New US Military" scares the hell outta China and Russia. Look at Taiwan for instance. Do you figure China gives a rat's ass what the US military will do about their muscle flexing? China would be supremely foolish to attack Taiwan it won't go well, even if America stays out of it it will go even worse for them then it going for Russia in Ukraine speaking of foolish attacks Edited August 11, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: China would be supremely foolish to attack Taiwan it won't go well, even if America stays out of it it will go even worse for them then it going for Russia in Ukraine speaking of foolish attacks Ya...except the consensus is that, should the US military continue down this tweenkie path, China WILL take Taiwan. As for the Russia/Ukraine thing. Not sure you've notice yet but...Russia has all but won what they set out to do. "Hurray for the mighty NATO and the US military!" Now if you'll excuse me, I think I'll have to go polish my nails before gun practice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Ya...except the consensus is that, should the US military continue down this tweenkie path, China WILL take Taiwan. the "consensus" is wrong China will get it's shit f*cked up by the Taiwanese Chinese strength is vastly overrated Edited August 11, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: the "consensus" is wrong China will get it's shit f*cked up by the Taiwanese Chinese strength is vastly overrated Huh...do you realize if the Chinese started walking into the ocean headed for the USA, that they'd create a human bridge before they ran out of people? I don't think they're terribly concerned about little Taiwan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Huh...do you realize if the Chinese started walking into the ocean headed for the USA, that they'd create a human bridge before they ran out of people? I don't think they're terribly concerned about little Taiwan. you overestimate the value of population when it comes to war they should be concerned about Taiwan amphibious landings aren't easy and Taiwan is particularly hard island to invade they will be walking into a buzzsaw Edited August 11, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: you overestimate the value of population when it comes to war they should be concerned about Taiwan amphibious landings aren't easy and Taiwan is particularly hard island to invade Ya...hard...like perhaps Ukraine? Get a grip man...in a conventional war, China wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Ya...hard...like perhaps Ukraine? Get a grip man...in a conventional war, China wins. Ukraine can be invaded by land Taiwan can't if China attacks they will lose far more than gaining Taiwan is worth they will make the Russian invasion of Ukraine look hyper competent by comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Ukraine can be invaded by land Taiwan can't if China attacks they will lose far more than gaining Taiwan is worth they will make the Russian invasion of Ukraine look hyper competent by comparison I think ur-a dreamin' in Technicolor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: I think ur-a dreamin' in Technicolor. yeah well your argument consists of "I disagree" with no actual argument as to why other than an appeal to authority and citing China's population so I don't consider your opinion to be informed at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: yeah well your argument consists of "I disagree" with no actual argument as to why other than an appeal to authority and citing China's population so I don't consider your opinion to be informed at all Ya... "Hey I know. Let's all just throw common sense right out the window and make outlandish claims." Its nice here on Earth. Maybe you should join us all? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Ya... "Hey I know. Let's all just throw common sense right out the window and make outlandish claims." Its nice here on Earth. Maybe you should join us all? no actual argument as I suspected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 31 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: no actual argument as I suspected Ya gits wut ya pays fer. Your position is silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Ya gits wut ya pays fer. Your position is silly. yours is silly I presented an actual argument you did not I paid for more but you duck and run because you know your argument won't stand up to scrutiny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 37 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: yours is silly I presented an actual argument you did not I paid for more but you duck and run because you know your argument won't stand up to scrutiny https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/31/asia/china-taiwan-invasion-scenarios-analysis-intl-hnk-ml/index.html Now please...join us here on Earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Nationalist said: https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/31/asia/china-taiwan-invasion-scenarios-analysis-intl-hnk-ml/index.html Now please...join us here on Earth. make your own arguments don't run to CNN for them Edited August 11, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: make your own arguments don't run to CNN Hilarious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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