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August 1st (stories can be earlier than the date of the post). 

"It revealed a tendency evident on both extremes of the political spectrum - the far-left and far-right - to side with the Russian President as an expression of their discontent with the state of the modern Western world.

This trend, which is evident around the world, exemplifies the so-called “horseshoe theory” of politics attributed to French writer Jean-Pierre Faye. The theory holds that the far-left and far-right can end up closer to each other with both tending to gravitate towards authoritarianism."


Full article:
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe...right-can-t-resist-putin-20220304-p5a1rw.html

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August 2nd (stories can be earlier than the date of the post). 

1) Right Wing in action on Jan 6th: 
At 2:12 p.m. on Jan. 6, far-right supporters of President Trump began climbing through a window they had smashed on the northwest side of the U.S. Capitol. “Go! Go! Go!” someone shouted as the rioters, some in military gear, streamed in. It was the start of the most serious attack on the Capitol since the War of 1812.

2) Left Wing in action on school's grounds: 
High School Teacher Admits Communist/Far-left Indoctrination of Students on camera. The Inderkum teacher is shown in the video for six minutes, talking about goals for his students and how he instills activism into his classroom. At the beginning of the edited video, the teacher says "I have 180 days to turn them into revolutionaries."

 

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On 8/2/2022 at 8:09 AM, Contrarian said:

August 2nd (stories can be earlier than the date of the post). 

1) Right Wing in action on Jan 6th: 
At 2:12 p.m. on Jan. 6, far-right supporters of President Trump began climbing through a window they had smashed on the northwest side of the U.S. Capitol. “Go! Go! Go!” someone shouted as the rioters, some in military gear, streamed in. It was the start of the most serious attack on the Capitol since the War of 1812.

2) Left Wing in action on school's grounds: 
High School Teacher Admits Communist/Far-left Indoctrination of Students on camera. The Inderkum teacher is shown in the video for six minutes, talking about goals for his students and how he instills activism into his classroom. At the beginning of the edited video, the teacher says "I have 180 days to turn them into revolutionaries."

 

Not all people inside the Capital building were what you call "far-right".

Not every teacher is actively producing activists.

Here's a thought. Why not just identify and dispense with people from both camps and be done with it?

KKK/BLM - Actively marginalize and dispense with.

Proud Boys/ANTIFA - Actively marginalize and dispense with.

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I am not sure what the "Nationalist" above is going on about but this is Day 3. Let me know when you achieve that utopia so all of us that are astray to join the party :)

Today will post a documentary:

House of Saud Saudi Arabia Documentary - PBS Frontline (2004)
*Frontline offers an unflinching and compelling look at complex, vital, and often-controversial subjects. Each broadcast consists of a long-form news documentary.

A documentary that covers the deal between Wahhabi clerics and the royal family in Saudi Arabia.

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August 4th ---> Quote Day 

It is time that the great center of our people, who reject the violence and unreasonableness of both the extreme right and the extreme left, searched their consciences, mustered their moral and physical courage, shed their intimidated silence, and declare their consciences.
- Margaret Chase Smith

*Margaret Madeline Chase Smith (December 14, 1897 – May 29, 1995) was an American politician. A member of the Republican Party, she served as a U.S. representative (1940–1949) and a U.S. senator (1949–1973) from Maine.

She was the first woman to serve in both houses of the United States Congress, and the first woman to represent Maine in either. Viewed by many as a centrist, she was among the first to criticize the tactics of Joseph McCarthy in her 1950 speech, "Declaration of Conscience".

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August 5th -> Left & Right in action

*The Experts Somehow Overlooked Authoritarians on the Left

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/psychological-dimensions-left-wing-authoritarianism/620185/

*A Spanish far-Right group paid just $10 to push a Twitter disinformation campaign in Kenya

https://restofworld.org/2022/spanish-far-right-twitter-disinformation-kenya/

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7 hours ago, dialamah said:

1.  Not surprised authoritarians exist on both sides.

Yes, and Fox News and MSNBC sure know how to exploit this. Or men like Al Sharpton and Donald Trump.

They "care" about the people. 😂 

Some still see them as heroes and role models to follow. 

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On 8/3/2022 at 5:30 PM, Contrarian said:

I am not sure what the "Nationalist" above is going on about but this is Day 3. Let me know when you achieve that utopia so all of us that are astray to join the party :)

Today will post a documentary:

House of Saud Saudi Arabia Documentary - PBS Frontline (2004)
*Frontline offers an unflinching and compelling look at complex, vital, and often-controversial subjects. Each broadcast consists of a long-form news documentary.

A documentary that covers the deal between Wahhabi clerics and the royal family in Saudi Arabia.

Today, August 6th I will post a documentary about the enemy of Saudi Arabia -> Iran. 

I understand some SAVAK supporters might not like it, @CITIZEN_2015, however it will be posted.

Savak was the royal police of Iran which through their abuses brought upon us the populism of Shia Islam which organizations like Hezbollah feed on. 

Forty years ago, a revolution in Iran led by Ayatollah Khomeini overthrew the ruler Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, and with this a monarchy that had lasted over 2,500 years. The story of the Shah begins with bright ideas and strong ideals, and ends in bloody turmoil. From the beginning of his reign and in his aspirations to modernise Iran, the Shah depended on the support of the clergy and the mullahs. Finally, it is they who bring him down. The struggle between the Shah and Ayatollah Khomeini lasts many decades. In the end, Islamic fundamentalism triumphs, heralding a new challenge for global politics.

Source: DW, German Public Television 
 


 

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5 hours ago, Contrarian said:



I understand some SAVAK supporters might not like it, @CITIZEN_2015, however it will be posted.
 

You mercenary. When you try to undermine criminal murderous regime you are actually part of the crime and the gang of murderers, I was only a child then and you accuse me of being a Savak agent. There is no limit to your idiocy.

 

You tried to undermine crimes committed by this present islamic regime in Iran causing so much death and suffering by diverting attention to some 50 years ago accusing Pahlavi dynasty of similar crimes which was a big lie. I don't know if it was out of your ignorance or you are cyber mercenary paid by this regime to do so. Regardless I called out your lie with historic facts and then you accuse me of being a Savak agent!!!!!. I was a child then. Murderous mercenary idiot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Iran#:~:text=The shah's court became the,and infrastructure investment grew significantly.

History will judge Pahlavi dynasty as a progressive Iran building freedom loving regime who caused prosperity of Iran and Iranians and this dreadful islamic republic as murderous oppressive regime causing death and destruction to Iran and Iranians and your lies and paid dollars by that regime will not alter the facts of the history.

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A female artist and writer arrested for hijab, jailed, beaten and tortured in prison by islamic guards, hospitalized for internal bleeding, likely raped and then brought in to TV and forced to make false confession.

https://www.niacouncil.org/human_rights_tracker/sepideh-rashno-forced-confession-aired-on-iranian-tv/

https://www.en-hrana.org/sepideh-rashno-hospitalized-prior-to-forced-tv-confession/

Death to islamic republic and their murderous agents and supporters.

 

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37 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

a) You mercenary. When you try to undermine criminal murderous regime you are actually part of the crime and the gang of murderers, I was only a child then and you accuse me of being a Savak agent. There is no limit to your idiocy.

b) You tried to undermine crimes committed by this present islamic regime in Iran causing so much death and suffering by diverting attention to some 50 years ago accusing Pahlavi dynasty of similar crimes which was a big lie. I don't know if it was out of your ignorance or you are cyber mercenary paid by this regime to do so. Regardless I called out your lie with historic facts and then you accuse me of being a Savak agent!!!!!. I was a child then. Murderous mercenary idiot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Iran#:~:text=The shah's court became the,and infrastructure investment grew significantly.

c) History will judge Pahlavi dynasty as a progressive Iran building freedom loving regime who caused prosperity of Iran and Iranians and this dreadful islamic republic as murderous oppressive regime causing death and destruction to Iran and Iranians and your lies and paid dollars by that regime will not alter the facts of the history.

a) Not a mercenary and I didn't accuse you of being a SAVAK agent. I said you are their supporter. 

b) Not trying to undermine, however when an Earthquake happens we need to trace the source. How did that populism rise to such a level? What is wrong with analyzing one side's abuses which in turn created other abuses? Or should we focus only on the present? 

c) Yes, and it all depends on WHO judges history. Many think opposite. 

*The regime does not pay me and I have nothing to do directly with Iran, I am just a voice of anti-populism regardless who is in power. Critique is important not to become a fanatic. 

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On 8/6/2022 at 10:11 AM, Contrarian said:

a) Not a mercenary and I didn't accuse you of being a SAVAK agent. I said you are their supporter. 

b) Not trying to undermine, however when an Earthquake happens we need to trace the source. How did that populism rise to such a level? What is wrong with analyzing one side's abuses which in turn created other abuses? Or should we focus only on the present? 

c) Yes, and it all depends on WHO judges history. Many think opposite. 

*The regime does not pay me and I have nothing to do directly with Iran, I am just a voice of anti-populism regardless who is in power. Critique is important not to become a fanatic. 

I am not a Savak supporter because the then Savak still exists in a much dreadful way in an islanic republic way which is much worse than Hitler fascism. 

You say Savak was committing torture in jails some 50 years ago so what is the big deal? Every country was practicing that in the 70s. The British even as a democracy were torturing IRA members and fighters. Canada too committing crimes against the natives in the 70's. But you purposely post lies and try to divert attention from crimes today to wrongdoings some 50 years ago. You help murderers by doing so.

I told you what happened. The Shah was an Iran lover. He wanted to better the lives of Iranians. He masterminded in early 70's to triple the price of oil in 1973. He started a program of rapid modernization and economic growth bringing prosperity to Iranians and rapid economic growth in his last decade. Iran made significant advances and became a regional economic and industrial and military power. The West did not like his policy off nationalism at their expense. The west went into economic recession as a result of his policies. The west planed his fall since mid 70's. They gave huge platform to his opposition in Western Capitals especially Paris.

They made huge propaganda against the Shah and called his murderous opponents as just or moderates planning to bring justice and independence to Iran. Iran people were fooled by lies and false promises of free food, cash and electricity broadcasted daily by BBC.  The idiotic Carter administration was fooled by the British. French and Soviets. They also started supporting the opposition and negotiated with traitor army officer for transition of power to these murderer islamic clergy bastards. It was a coup which destroyed Iran not a revolution.

The source you are seeking was not Savak but the West, in particular the damn British, peanut brain Carter administration and the West and Soviets in general. Please get yourself educated before writing lies and false history which only helps murderers and torturers and those who beat up women in prison and on streets. You became  responsible for their actions if you try to undermine their criminal actions against a defenseless nation and the world.

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10 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

I told you what happened. The Shah was an Iran lover.

Nationalists like the Shah love their country too much. 

Communists hate their country too much.

Both examples serve in my opinion as a lesson that if you do things too much you always run into trouble. 

But if you say is all the West's fault. Not understanding what is your issue with President Carter, didn't he allowed the Shah in even though some were tellng him not to.

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August 7th | 2022

I will end the week with another documentary. 

Panic: The Untold Story of the 2008 financial crisis | HBO

A documentary on the roots of the 2008 financial crisis, how the crisis itself unfolded, and most importantly, the unintended long-term consequences of it all.

Source: HBO

 

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11 hours ago, Contrarian said:

Nationalists like the Shah love their country too much. 

Communists hate their country too much.

Both examples serve in my opinion as a lesson that if you do things too much you always run into trouble. 

But if you say is all the West's fault. Not understanding what is your issue with President Carter, didn't he allowed the Shah in even though some were tellng him not to.

He refused the Shah for a while and his treatment was delayed and that was what resulted in his eventual death. Under pressure from Shah's friends like Nixon and Kissinger eventually he allowed Shah in but too late.

My problem with Carter is that he was a peanut brain. We abandoned a long time ally of United States. He pressured Shah to abandon or leave Iran and then sent his military adviser to transfer power from Shah to these murderers. He was fooled by false promises from ayatollahs to keep Iran free and under western democracy. He was a fool. He should have stayed a peanut farmer which is the size of his brain.

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August 8th.

Today will be the Covid-19 irrationality awards day (*Videos are from last year).
**You do not need a Twitter account to see them, please press play on the blue play button. If you don't see it, you might need another browser. 

a) Pro-mask fanatics -> Harassing people for drinking coffee:

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b) Anti-mask fanatics -> Using violence trying to get into private property:

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12 hours ago, Contrarian said:

August 8th.

Today will be the Covid-19 irrationality awards day (*Videos are from last year).
**You do not need a Twitter account to see them, please press play on the blue play button. If you don't see it, you might need another browser. 

a) Pro-mask fanatics -> Harassing people for drinking coffee:

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b) Anti-mask fanatics -> Using violence trying to get into private property:

and a riot

between the 2 sides

reported in France. 

 

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The Police in action

From Reason.com which exists outside the left-right echochamber 

https://reason.com/2022/08/05/he-was-arrested-for-promoting-jury-nullification-a-federal-court-says-that-was-illegal/

A man was wrongfully arrested for standing outside a Bronx courthouse handing out flyers about jury nullification, the practice where juries render "not guilty" verdicts despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, a federal court confirmed last week.

Michael Picard, a civil libertarian activist, was taken into custody in late 2017 after police took issue with him passing out papers telling recipients to "Google Jury Nullification," as law enforcement alleged he was in violation of a New York law barring people from standing within 200 feet of a courthouse "calling for or demanding any specified action or determination by such court or jury" in connection with an ongoing case.

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5 hours ago, Contrarian said:

The Police in action

From Reason.com which exists outside the left-right echochamber 

https://reason.com/2022/08/05/he-was-arrested-for-promoting-jury-nullification-a-federal-court-says-that-was-illegal/

A man was wrongfully arrested for standing outside a Bronx courthouse handing out flyers about jury nullification, the practice where juries render "not guilty" verdicts despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, a federal court confirmed last week.

Michael Picard, a civil libertarian activist, was taken into custody in late 2017 after police took issue with him passing out papers telling recipients to "Google Jury Nullification," as law enforcement alleged he was in violation of a New York law barring people from standing within 200 feet of a courthouse "calling for or demanding any specified action or determination by such court or jury" in connection with an ongoing case.

On the face of it, it seems reasonable that one would need to be 200 feet (61m) away from a courthouse to protest due to attempts to influence judgements.  

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This is the story of the twists and turns, the great game, that drives the race to end years of hostilities between South and North Korea. 

via National Geographic

 

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Someone reminded me of Turkey and another documentary I have saved up. 

Source is their Turkish Public Television so keep that in mind but still a well made documentary. 

In 2016, the future of Turkey hung in the balance. An attempted coup took place in which more than 250 people were killed, parliament was bombed and bridges across the Bosphorus were seized. The Gulenist network, known as FETO in Turkey, has been held responsible by the authorities. We examine the evidence against some of the main suspects and reveal new information about the investigation. We also speak to ex-members of the network, those wrongly jailed as a result of its actions, and those who tried to bring it to justice.

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On 8/4/2022 at 1:50 AM, Nationalist said:

Not all people inside the Capital building were what you call "far-right".

Not every teacher is actively producing activists.

Here's a thought. Why not just identify and dispense with people from both camps and be done with it?

KKK/BLM - Actively marginalize and dispense with.

Proud Boys/ANTIFA - Actively marginalize and dispense with.

Far left? Far right? What does this mean.

Are these groups significant? If no less than the US president can get together so few people and have them lose so badly, including on home side fatality, do these people matter all that much? 

I'm new here today and already confused,

 

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11 hours ago, Greghead said:

Are these groups significant?

 The Germans were enlightened people and a few far-right (SS) and far-left groups (Communists) were doing street fighting.

At the time the average German was laughing at these 2 fanatical groups, however, one of this group finally grabbed power due to economic hardship. Do I have to tell you the remainder of the story and what happened when a leader emerged on top of this drug addiction, which I called populism, nationalism, communism, fascism, they are all rotten in my opinion.

Only 1 target in my view -> getting people in groups to lose their rational thinking. Proud Boys and Antifa go to jail, Trump and Al Sharpton get richer. You remain with your idealism, Trump with the money. 😃

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