Question for Trudeau Haters....

[Army Guy]

5 hours ago, Boges said:

Which is the other bugaboo. They're forcing Hockey parents to pay to make rape allegations go away? That's a horrible look. 

I guess the power of money trumps justice in this case does it not... the women made a choice to seek justice or enrich herself...She choose to enrich herself. Which is a horrible look as well.  And now people don't like that decision they want a do over, they are screaming for justice. Justice has nothing to do with it now. that boat has sailed.

 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

Angry people with large flags and "F Trudeau" Bumper stickers doesn't win any hearts or minds. 

Speak for yourself. Those are my homies!

[Boges]

18 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

I guess the power of money trumps justice in this case does it not... the women made a choice to seek justice or enrich herself...She choose to enrich herself. Which is a horrible look as well.  And now people don't like that decision they want a do over, they are screaming for justice. Justice has nothing to do with it now. that boat has sailed.

Way to victim blame. 

The issue is less about her and why Hockey Canada would even do this. Well we know why. You have this/these future NHLers you want to protect. 

[Boges]

16 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Speak for yourself. Those are my homies!

I am speaking for myself. 

I honestly don't want to live in a Country where your homies are in charge. 

[Army Guy]

13 minutes ago, Boges said:

Way to victim blame. 

The issue is less about her and why Hockey Canada would even do this. Well we know why. You have this/these future NHLers you want to protect. 

Victim blame your funney ,she had a choice seek justice or enrich herself. which one did she pick again? This is Not about me and you. Did she decide to take the money or not...or was it more of "take the money or you will not see grand mom ever again"...She chose the money, regardless of where or who paid her. I'm sure she signed a non disclosure, and without her testimony where do you think this is all going.  

Edited August 16, 2022 by Army Guy

[Army Guy]

5 minutes ago, Boges said:

I am speaking for myself. 

I honestly don't want to live in a Country where your homies are in charge. 

But your Ok supporting someone who has constantly lied to you and me, who can not be trusted to solve anything...but a few stickers scare you...you got really thick skin...

 

[TreeBeard]

44 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

But your Ok supporting someone who has constantly lied to you and me, who can not be trusted to solve anything...but a few stickers scare you...you got really thick skin...

 

Did he ever say that he supports Trudeau?  

[ExFlyer]

2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

He is fascist scum. Those that support him are either stupid or also are fascist scum. Not a lot of in-between.

 

And,.... here he is, the Prime Minister and leader of Canada, voted in by the public and is so for the next 4 years.

So,the stupid fascist scum have spoken

Edited August 16, 2022 by ExFlyer

[I am Groot]

5 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

I don't need the media to tell me about the Tea Party

I followed them from the beginning

and 88% Democrat media is lying about them

You don't need to listen to the Democrats to know how weird the Tea Party types are. You only have to listen to the Tea Party types themselves. They started out of outrage at all the government money that went to propping up the banks back in the day, a kind of anti-corporate welfare group. Over the years money from corporate America has morphed them into a group fiercely defensive of corporate welfare and corporate America and despising anyone on the other side of the fence who dares to suggest regulations or higher taxes on corporate America.

They are basically a bunch of not very smart people who have been herded and captured by corporate America. And a reasonably large percentage of them act like fruitcakes.

Edited August 16, 2022 by I am Groot

[Nefarious Banana]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

 

So, the stupid fascist scum have spoken . . .

You, Hardner, Queenie . . . . ?

[ExFlyer]

33 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

You, Hardner, Queenie . . . . ?

Another failed retort.

[Army Guy]

6 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Did he ever say that he supports Trudeau?  

Yes....But don't for a moment think the NDP are better because they are tied to the liberals hips as well.

Edited August 17, 2022 by Army Guy

[Army Guy]

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

And,.... here he is, the Prime Minister and leader of Canada, voted in by the public and is so for the next 4 years.

So,the stupid fascist scum have spoken

Thats what is so good about about democracy, if you have money and support you to can be the leader of the nation. And while he may not be a fascist scum, he is certainly Canada's most hated PM, there is a long list of other faults that go with that as well. 

[Yzermandius19]

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

You don't need to listen to the Democrats to know how weird the Tea Party types are. You only have to listen to the Tea Party types themselves. They started out of outrage at all the government money that went to propping up the banks back in the day, a kind of anti-corporate welfare group. Over the years money from corporate America has morphed them into a group fiercely defensive of corporate welfare and corporate America and despising anyone on the other side of the fence who dares to suggest regulations or higher taxes on corporate America.

They are basically a bunch of not very smart people who have been herded and captured by corporate America. And a reasonably large percentage of them act like fruitcakes.

the movement got astroturfed

but even the astroturfed movement isn't racist

and the real Tea Party certainly isn't either

Edited August 17, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[OftenWrong]

On 8/15/2022 at 10:09 AM, Michael Hardner said:

1. Gee... Maybe 100K salary potential pretty quick, low education requirements, full pension by 55?

2. Not fair.  I know fine people in law enforcement.

3. They have to walk a line.  RCMP, Hockey Canada is THEM.  They can't apologize for things that happened on their watch then not take accountability.

 

Police recruitment has always been a challenge. I meant now that so many officials made disparaging remarks about police, it tarnishes the image of the force. Many officers have quit.

I know this is true, and it’s entirely rational. The Defund created civil harm in removing decades of effort to establish trust.

Don’t believe me, fella? Here is your linky-dink.

https://www.google.com/search?q=police+recruitment+challenges

Today we see a rebound movement, in other words refund the police. Good luck. Was bad enough, and covid policies also made things worse.

There again, we hear of police forces calling back their suspended officers,no need to prove their vaccination status.

This is the damage Mr Trudeau has done with his irresponsible comments.

Same in terms of the present hockey “scandal”. His condemnation without understanding the particulars, is to me yet another example where he wants to attack traditional Canadian culture.

Even if these JuniorA players gang-banged someone in a hotel room, the matter was settled without going to a court. One presumes the victim accepted the deal. 

It is her right to privacy as well. Not the Prime Minister’s business.

The PM has no business in the hotel rooms of hockey players.

[OftenWrong]

9 hours ago, Boges said:

Actually the thread is about what's the end-game for replacing him. 

I don’t see an end-game. Trudeau-mania is an old term, I believe. Yet it applies again.

The opposition is in a constant state of leadership crisis, I don’t see that changing.

Poilivierre will have a couple of years to let the public get to know him, which may be an advantage.

On the other hand, Trudeau et al might call an election sooner if they feel they could win, challenging the CPC leadership  again.

One thorn in liberal voter’s side is they didn’t necessarily vote for NDP ideas, for which Trudeau made a deal. But in general those are liberal-socialist ideas that resonate well, with Liberal dunderheads.

....

Inflation is bad, as is the supply chain. If people start to feel real financial pain, that could be held against him.

....

Yrudeau is chinese puppet. Some liberals do not want to chinese puppet.

Now that we gave Huawei the trudeau salute

(hoorah),

china retaliate

Shortage medication

shortage electronic

shortage metal alloy

and hospital supply

that way china say

sclew you,

loundeye

 

[ExFlyer]

9 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Thats what is so good about about democracy, if you have money and support you to can be the leader of the nation. And while he may not be a fascist scum, he is certainly Canada's most hated PM, there is a long list of other faults that go with that as well. 

I agree with everything you said.

And he may stay hated but chances are, come election time, he will make the unhappy happy with promises and will most likely win again.

My prediction that hopefully fails

[I am Groot]

10 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

the movement got astroturfed

but even the astroturfed movement isn't racist

and the real Tea Party certainly isn't either

The word 'racist' gets thrown around a lot these days for things which really aren't racist. I will say this for the Tea Party types; They see minorities as their enemies because minorities mostly vote Democrat. They also have scant respect for anyone who needs government money for such things as welfare, medicaid, or even school lunches because that takes taxes and they don't want to pay taxes. And those people are disproportionately minorities. So all in, the Tea party types aren't very fond of Blacks or other minorities. Which is behind a lot of the new laws to make voting more difficult for poor people and blacks.

Edited August 17, 2022 by I am Groot

[I am Groot]

10 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Police recruitment has always been a challenge.

AFAIK police recruitment has NEVER been a challenge. Any more than recruitment for the fire department. There are long lines of young men eager to get jobs they see as exciting and which pay high salaries. The challenge today is that police departments have been directed to practice 'diversity and equity', which in practice means desperately searching for female and minority candidates while ignoring a lot of capable white, male candidates.

[Boges]

18 hours ago, Army Guy said:

I'm sure all those with flags and stickers don't really care about liberal hearts and minds...there pissed off and want change, and are voicing their opinions, much like you are here. and if that makes the snowflakes mad, then vote for Justin or whom ever, it is why we call it democracy, If flags and stickers are the only thing that is stopping you from voting Conservative, stop fooling yourself, you were not going to do it anyways...

Actually cozying up with Anti-Vaxers is what prevents me from voting Conservative. Note my Avatar, I've come around on Dofo. The right in this country are completely isolating themselves. 

[Yzermandius19]

12 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

The word 'racist' gets thrown around a lot these days for things which really aren't racist. I will say this for the Tea Party types; They see minorities as their enemies because minorities mostly vote Democrat. They also have scant respect for anyone who needs government money for such things as welfare, medicaid, or even school lunches because that takes taxes and they don't want to pay taxes. And those people are disproportionately minorities. So all in, the Tea party types aren't very fond of Blacks or other minorities. Which is behind a lot of the new laws to make voting more difficult for poor people and blacks.

nonsense

they don't think making minorities dependent on the government is good for minorities

nor do think high taxes are good for them

they simply disagree with you on the best way to help minorities

that doesn't make them racist

[I am Groot]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

nonsense

they don't think making minorities dependent on the government is good for minorities

nor do think high taxes are good for them

they simply disagree with you on the best way to help minorities

that doesn't make them racist

I didn't say they were racist. I said they don't think much of minorities. Not due to some sense of racial superiority but because they see most minorities as the enemy in that they vote for the Democrats and consume tax dollars.

The real issue is that most minorities are in the cities while Republican support is highest in the boonies. Living in the boonies requires a certain level of self sufficiency living in the city does not. Basic transportation, for one. You're not going to find country boys without cars but lots of city people don't own one, don't need one. Country people don't need the government to get them around. They don't need government to take care of their water or sewage. You get used to government doing all kinds of things for you when you live in the city. This is why city people tend to vote for parties which are for big government and country people don't.

[Michael Hardner]

10 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

1. Police recruitment has always been a challenge. 

Don’t believe me, fella? Here is your linky-dink.

https://www.google.com/search?q=police+recruitment+challenges

2. Today we see a rebound movement, in other words refund the police. Good luck. Was bad enough, and covid policies also made things worse.

3. Even if these JuniorA players gang-banged someone in a hotel room, the matter was settled without going to a court. One presumes the victim accepted the deal. 

4. It is her right to privacy as well. Not the Prime Minister’s business.

The PM has no business in the hotel rooms of hockey players.

1. Interesting and news to me.  Ok, next step is to assess how much of this issue is due to other factors, and how much can truly be attributed to morale.

2. How much actual DEFUNDING happened?

3. This is an odd feature of the movement to end such settlements.  Future victims would be denied their substantial settlements so that the perpetrators would be named and a painful trial would ensue.

4. He's a politician, you know that right?

[Boges]

9 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

I don’t see an end-game. Trudeau-mania is an old term, I believe. Yet it applies again.

The opposition is in a constant state of leadership crisis, I don’t see that changing.

Poilivierre will have a couple of years to let the public get to know him, which may be an advantage.

On the other hand, Trudeau et al might call an election sooner if they feel they could win, challenging the CPC leadership  again.

One thorn in liberal voter’s side is they didn’t necessarily vote for NDP ideas, for which Trudeau made a deal. But in general those are liberal-socialist ideas that resonate well, with Liberal dunderheads.

....

Inflation is bad, as is the supply chain. If people start to feel real financial pain, that could be held against him.

....

Yrudeau is chinese puppet. Some liberals do not want to chinese puppet.

Now that we gave Huawei the trudeau salute

(hoorah),

china retaliate

Shortage medication

shortage electronic

shortage metal alloy

and hospital supply

that way china say

sclew you,

loundeye

With the "coalition" with the NDP, JT may be able to ride out this financial issues. He's got 3 years if he needs it. Or, as you mention, he may call a snap election to get PP with his pants down. The NDP will have to play ball though. 

[Yzermandius19]

6 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

I didn't say they were racist. I said they don't think much of minorities. Not due to some sense of racial superiority but because they see most minorities as the enemy in that they vote for the Democrats and consume tax dollars.

The real issue is that most minorities are in the cities while Republican support is highest in the boonies. Living in the boonies requires a certain level of self sufficiency living in the city does not. Basic transportation, for one. You're not going to find country boys without cars but lots of city people don't own one, don't need one. Country people don't need the government to get them around. They don't need government to take care of their water or sewage. You get used to government doing all kinds of things for you when you live in the city. This is why city people tend to vote for parties which are for big government and country people don't.

it's not minorities they don't think much of

it's Democrats, regardless of ethnicity