myata Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) The story of an alleged African war criminal killed in Canada featured on BBC today illustrates the current state of the country's public system. Is it an isolated, exceptional instance? Or a worrying pattern? In any sane, sentient democracy these would be serious questions in the focus of public and media attention. Please read it and try to answer a simple question: if folks like Horace could make it here who couldn't? Some excerpts: "He was alleged to have committed some of the most atrocious crimes that you could imagine - murder whole families, shot people to death, behead people," she said. "His men were involved in the rape of women, opening of pregnant women's stomachs." In 2002, Horace moved across the ocean to Canada, where he applied for refugee status. In 2020 he was shot in a suburb of Toronto. 20 - 2 = eighteen (18, years). Make no mistake it's our taxes yours and mine pay for eighteen years of the useless and clueless "process" with who knows how many people involved some "just doing their job" and others, deliberately milking the generous (out of our pocket, whose else) system. That status was eventually denied, but he remained in the country, appealing his removal several times. In 2009, he applied for permanent resident status, but at the time of his death, he was not a permanent resident, according to Maclean's. What the h@ck is wrong with us? How can an accused war criminal and failed refugee deportee still apply for a permanent residence, with almost all rights of a citizen? Matt Eisenbrandt, who was legal director of the CCIJ at the time of its investigation, told the BBC he gave Canadian police "a mountain of evidence on a silver platter", including the testimony of over a dozen witnesses who described "horrific" crimes allegedly committed by Horace and his soldiers. And now you hear something familiar, dear and known from the roots: Geneviève Groulx, a spokesperson for Canada's justice department, said it does not comment on the existence of war crimes investigations unless charges are brought, in order to Did it answer all your questions dear? Now go to bed, silly. Who do you think this democracy is and working for, silly? I still have one though: is it, in the area of public management, a) well within a sight of Mexico b) in or around Mexico or c) past Mexico? Please make a choice. Edited July 17, 2022 by myata 1 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
ironstone Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 It just goes to show that with the Canadian immigration system there isn't any real vetting going on. And then the appeals process can go on indefinitely at taxpayer expense. Anyone just has to utter a few words, "I'm a refugee" and they're in. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
myata Posted July 17, 2022 Author Report Posted July 17, 2022 Well, say someone proposed to make the process more efficient and accountable. Say, reduce it from 18 years to one or two. Question: who would be interested? No seriously, collect salary benefits pensions, promotions etc for the entire office for 18 years and or only two? Anyone interested, hello? Isn't it the epitome of our problems here? And where do you think a positive news could come from? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
ExFlyer Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 Canada has allowed criminals into the country forever. A story about this pops up every couple years and there is 15 minutes of outrage and then goes away. Canada is too politically and socially correct to ever do anything other than what we are doing npw. How many of the thousands of Syrians we let in are criminals? Or Afghans? Or Indians? Or Hatians? When we do find out, we pay for lawyers and such for years and tears to fight extraditions. So, the story by the BBC is just the normal every day Canadian way of doing things. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
myata Posted July 17, 2022 Author Report Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: So, the story by the BBC is just the normal every day Canadian way of doing things. No, the real question is here: will it get better? Or worse still? One or the other please guess. Anybody wants to? The optimist joke. Pessimist: it can't get any worse than this! Optimist: yes it can! Surely it can! Only a joke, sure? Edited July 17, 2022 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
ExFlyer Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, myata said: No, the real question is here: will it get better? Or worse still? One or the other please guess. Anybody wants to? The optimist joke. Pessimist: it can't get any worse than this! Optimist: yes it can! Surely it can! Only a joke, sure? Unfortunately, i do not see it getting any better here in Canada. Our "justice" and immigration systems can only deport mothers and her children. We keep terrorists and/or terrorists families and criminals and let them fight deportation for decades. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
myata Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Posted July 18, 2022 14 hours ago, ExFlyer said: We keep terrorists and/or terrorists families and criminals and let them fight deportation for decades. Because it works for us... some of us? If it works so well for some us, why change anything? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
ExFlyer Posted July 18, 2022 Report Posted July 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, myata said: Because it works for us... some of us? If it works so well for some us, why change anything? Shit, out PM even gives them 10 of millions of dollars because Canadians made them feel bad. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
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