cougar Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 hours ago, myata said: The forum is a fine illustration of a gradual but very steady and absolutely predictable degradation of the political system in the absence of any meaningful checks and standards. Just / only give it a time, some time. Your post above refers to garbage posted by a spammer, which has been removed. You better change it, as it is now misleading - people will have no clue what you are talking about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, cougar said: Your post above refers to garbage posted by a spammer, which has been removed. You better change it, as it is now misleading - people will have no clue what you are talking about. And a new one starts 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 Reports of Russia mass executing PoW in a cynical violation of UN and International Red Cross "guarantees". Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, myata said: Reports of Russia mass executing PoW in a cynical violation of UN and International Red Cross "guarantees".  Reports? The Ukrainian gov't actually was killing prisoners of war. https://www.newsweek.com/ukrainians-killing-russian-pows-risks-spiral-depravity-expert-1696939 Why do you suddenly care about murdered prisoners of war now when you didn't back then? Warning: when a person completely lacks empathy it means that they're a psycho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: The Ukrainian gov't actually was killing prisoners of war. Lying: "If this turns out to be real, this is absolutely unacceptable behavior," The shelling of the PoW colony is a confirmed fact on the other hand. 5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Warning: when a person completely lacks empathy it means that they're a psycho. Wrong but you already know it. No one is obligated to show empathy to a murderous psycho in a live act of terrorizing and killing innocent bystanders. This is called another word: justice, law enforcement. In fact one can be a hero by stopping such atrocity. By all means necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, myata said: Lying: "If this turns out to be real, this is absolutely unacceptable behavior," The shelling of the PoW colony is a confirmed fact on the other hand. Wrong but you already know it. No one is obligated to show empathy to a murderous psycho in a live act of terrorizing and killing innocent bystanders. This is called another word: justice, law enforcement. In fact one can be a hero by stopping such atrocity. By all means necessary. It was real. And you don't know who shelled the PoW colony now, do you.... No you do not. The building was in Russian hands, the most likely people to have fired on it were Ukraine's Nazis.  Also, just in case you ever wondered if your news sources were complete bullshit, your article says this: Quote Those detained are said to have included members of the Azov battalion, who were the last defenders of Mariupol and whom Russia has sought to depict as neo-Nazis and war criminals. This is a point-blank attempt to rewrite history. It's an absolute certainty that the Azovs are neo-Nazis. There's not a credible source in the world that denies the Azovs are neo-Nazis. It's a well-established fact that they are. So why is your "news source" telling absurd lies if they're an actual "news source"?  You're sucked in way too deep, and you're completely unable to differentiate between blatant lies and propaganda and actual, unbiased information (which is the rarest of birds in war) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) It was incendiary shells on a prison block full of people. Who couldn't hide or take shelter. Nazis did that but they gassed first. They were more humane. What a sick, sick to the very core people. Though I'll take an exception to that last word.. maybe not. Edited July 30, 2022 by myata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted July 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 And the fat a$ses at UN / Red Cross who gave worthless "guarantees" while (some) having their a$ses scratched by the monster? I dunno if there are Higher Powers to judge them or a proper place in the abyss. One thing is clear though: this is a new age it's here. Hitler is sitting in the Security Council, never happened before. Good luck to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted August 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 Typical Russia (TM) psycho lying (BBC) US is accused of "direct role" by providing information, while Russia's role inside, within, hundreds kilometers from the border blasting and blowing apart hospitals and apartment buildings is what do you think? indirect? conditional? Can you figure it out? Not if you are a normal sane human being, you cannot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 On 7/30/2022 at 9:28 AM, myata said: And the fat a$ses at UN / Red Cross who gave worthless "guarantees" while (some) having their a$ses scratched by the monster? I dunno if there are Higher Powers to judge them or a proper place in the abyss. One thing is clear though: this is a new age it's here. Hitler is sitting in the Security Council, never happened before. Good luck to us. I've heard that Zelinski ordered the bombing because it was full of Azov POWs and the US and NATO are questioning their support for Ukraine because of the Azovs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted August 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I've heard that Zelinski ordered the bombing because it was full of Azov POWs and the US and NATO are questioning their support for Ukraine because of the Azovs. You can hear pretty much anything but BBC journalists on the ground did not see any evidence that it could be caused by long-range US weaponry while the place is deep within Russia's occupied territory and according to Geneva convention it carries full responsibility for the PoW. Russia does not observe any norms and conventions, that kind of a place. Nazis did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, myata said: You can hear pretty much anything but BBC journalists on the ground did not see any evidence that it could be caused by long-range US weaponry while the place is deep within Russia's occupied territory and according to Geneva convention it carries full responsibility for the PoW. Russia does not observe any norms and conventions, that kind of a place. Nazis did. The BBC? Oh well that's different. Now we KNOW tha Ukraine executed this attack. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-29/russia-ukraine-accuse-each-other-of-bombing-pow-prison/101284284 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted August 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 Russia blocks Red Cross from visiting prison camp. Not Zelenskyi. Interesting, no? Zelenskyi shells but Russia blocks. Makes sense right.. the question is, to who? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted August 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 Not only brutal and violent but also incurably dumb. Just like a bandit, thug. Brutal force and no other notions, values or arguments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 It gets me that even though Ukraine was the country invaded, it's towns bombed and shelled, civilians killed, territory occupied, Russia boosters think the Ukrainians should be the ones who have to fight like gentlemen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 40 minutes ago, Aristides said: It gets me that even though Ukraine was the country invaded, it's towns bombed and shelled, civilians killed, territory occupied, Russia boosters think the Ukrainians should be the ones who have to fight like gentlemen. War is hell. The notion of rules is asinine. But this constant blame game with absolutely no facts to backup said blame/accusations is...as childish as the notion war should have rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Nationalist said: War is hell. The notion of rules is asinine. But this constant blame game with absolutely no facts to backup said blame/accusations is...as childish as the notion war should have rules. The facts are, Ukraine was invaded, its towns and cities destroyed, civilians killed and territory occupied. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, myata said: Not only brutal and violent but also incurably dumb. Just like a bandit, thug. Brutal force and no other notions, values or arguments. Do you, in any way, think a war/invasion/occupation is fair and follows rules? Russia has stated their objectives and are proceeding to achieve them in any way they can. I am pretty sure Russia will get what it wants and Ukraine will be a smaller country in the end and then maybe, just maybe , Ukraine will be admitted into EU and NATO. In the meantime, nations from all over are getting an economic boon in being able to get rid of old munitions and factories are making newer munitions. Edited August 3, 2022 by ExFlyer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: The facts are, Ukraine was invaded, its towns and cities destroyed, civilians killed and territory occupied. This is absolutely true. What is not clear is...who bombed that POW camp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted August 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Nationalist said: What is not clear is...who bombed that POW camp? Let's see. 1. Russia invaded and occupies Ukrainian sovereign territory. 2. Under Geneva convention it has signed, Russia is responsible for humane treatment and safety of the PoWs it holds. 3. PoWs under Russia's responsibility and in the territory it occupies are killed, brutally. 4. Russia failed its responsibility under the convention AND refuses access to international humanitarian organizations. Do you know, who? 38 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: <Russia> has stated their objectives and are proceeding to achieve them in any way they can. Replace as needed. What century is it, on the clock? In which direction is the time going? Good luck to us. Edited August 3, 2022 by myata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 Ukraines always said that life under Nazi rule was alot better then soviet rule. The ones that were allowed to live. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, myata said: Let's see. 1. Russia invaded and occupies Ukrainian sovereign territory. 2. Under Geneva convention it has signed, Russia is responsible for humane treatment and safety of the PoWs it holds. 3. PoWs under Russia's responsibility and in the territory it occupies are killed, brutally. 4. Russia failed its responsibility under the convention AND refuses access to international humanitarian organizations. Do you know, who? Replace as needed. What century is it, on the clock? In which direction is the time going? Good luck to us. OK...can you prove who launched those bombs? No? Can you prove the POWs held by Russian troops are being executed? No? Hmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, PIK said: Ukraines always said that life under Nazi rule was alot better then soviet rule. The ones that were allowed to live. My Mother-In-Law says exactly that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 hours ago, myata said: Let's see. ...... Replace as needed. What century is it, on the clock? In which direction is the time going? Good luck to us. What are you trying to say? Belittling Russian action in the Ukraine?? Supporting Russian actions?? Agreeing with Russian actions?? Deflecting Russian actions to someone else?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted August 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2022 18 hours ago, Nationalist said: Can you prove the POWs held by Russian troops are being executed? Russia has a long and proud tradition of executing PoWs. Katyn massacre. Raul Wallenberg yes the hero. So yes, we know. The world knows. There's only one in the world that does that sort of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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