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31 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Ok but the Convoy is fine.... give your head a shake.  You either like protests or you don't.  Are they being violent ?  Disrupting peoples' lives ?

Anyway - my example of how Canada does things: prayer in school in 2016.  Somebody says something.  It stops.

I had mixed feelings about the convoy. They have every right to protest and I am somewhat sympathetic to what they were protesting about. I did not like them blockading roads or honking horns all through the night. The MSM went out of their way to demonize them in every way and most of them were indeed peaceful. 

Peaceful protest? Yes absolutely. Don't blockade or use violence. And violence and disruptive blockades are used way more often by those on the left.

Below is an example of a peaceful protest that sends a really mixed message.

 

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30 minutes ago, ironstone said:

1. I had mixed feelings about the convoy. They have every right to protest and I am somewhat sympathetic to what they were protesting about. I did not like them blockading roads or honking horns all through the night. The MSM went out of their way to demonize them in every way and most of them were indeed peaceful. 

2. Peaceful protest? Yes absolutely. Don't blockade or use violence. And violence and disruptive blockades are used way more often by those on the left.

 

 

1. Ok me too.
2. Agreed.
 

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27 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Then I guess conservatives will have to stop b1tching about it.

Bitching? But it's you who's getting all upset that American Christians are allowed to pray as their 1st amendment allows?

I'm for Kaepernick exercising  his constitutional right to make an idiot of himself. Just as I recognize my right to point at him and say "What a jackass."

Why are you complaining?

 

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1 minute ago, Infidel Dog said:

Bitching? But it's you who's getting all upset that American Christians are allowed to pray as their 1st amendment allows?

I'm also for Kaepernick's right to exercise his constitutional right to make an idiot of himself.

Why are you complaining?

 

I'm not upset that the ruling; why would I be?  I think religion is stupid, and so I think praying in any circumstance is stupid - but people are gonna do what they gonna do. 

However, I have my doubts that that particular right will be universal - which you'd have understood if you'd actually read my posts.

 

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26 minutes ago, dialamah said:

I'm not upset that the ruling; why would I be?  I think religion is stupid, and so I think praying in any circumstance is stupid - but people are gonna do what they gonna do. 

However, I have my doubts that that particular right will be universal - which you'd have understood if you'd actually read my posts.

 

It's not conservatives suing Christian bakers who don't want to make gay pies.

Your guys are the lawfare, 'the process is the punishment' guys.

Clean your own house before you worry about other peoples'.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

But fun.

Americans should just have courthouses attached to all public buildings.  

Canada had public school prayer 6 years ago... oops somebody forgot, so they fixed it... no culture war needed.  This is why I tell people that Canada has become what America tried to be.

If Bush Cheney was here more often I wouldn't get away with that one ?

Indeed, many many years ago Canada did have prayers in schools. But since the lefty liberal/socialists, like you, started to take over Canada, prayers in schools were abolished. Why? Well because it offended some foreign born religions. Awe, too f'n bad for them. Don't like it, go back home. I do not need or want you here. Become Canadian or leave. Works well for me. 

There is a culture war going on in Canada today. It is called multiculturalism and diversity or as some call it "genocide" against it's host British and European white people. When those two programs and agendas were implemented in Canada in 1980 by old man Marxist Trudeau Canada started to become more like a Marxist looking country, and not a Christian and conservative and freedom loving looking country any longer. When Canada was once a Christian and conservative looking country we had law and order. today, we now have guns and violence and drugs on the streets of Canada. You can thank the Trudeau's and the lefty liberals/socialists for this. A bunch of arse holes indeed.. 

We had one religion, one language English, one culture, and one belief, and one heritage, and we celebrated many of those traditions that our forefathers from Britain brought and taught us to practice. Today, those practices mentioned above are slowly being removed and abolished and are now being replaced by way too many foreign culture, foreign langauges and foreign religions that the old Canada of several decades ago will soon disappear. One or two more decades at most and Canada will become a non-white looking country forever, and old whitey, you ain't going to like it, pardner. ?

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5 minutes ago, taxme said:

1. Indeed, many many years ago Canada did have prayers in schools. But since the lefty liberal/socialists, like you, started to take over Canada, prayers in schools were abolished.

2. Don't like it, go back home.  

3. There is a culture war going on in Canada today. It is called ...

1.  Keep up, chucklef***.  I have posted the example from 2016.  Unless "many" means six.
2. 3. etc.  Yawn - you are a broken record weeping for a Canada that never was, to rationalize your many failures and cognitive shortcomings.

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Conservatives pretty much just want to be left alone to do what they do if it hasn't hurt anybody. If you try to force them to they'll fight back.

That's not enough for the prog. You must bend the knee like a Kaepernick. You must kiss the feet of prog, or and submit to cancellation. 

Come to think of it, what's that "Cancelling Christmas" crap all about? I don't sing holiday songs. I sing Christmas Carols. And how did that Cancelling Christmas for Covid thing go for you last year, Commie Bonnie Henry?

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9 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

It's not conservatives suing Christian Bakers who don't want to make gay pies.

Your guys are the lawfare, 'the process is the punishment' guys.

Clean your own house before you worry about other peoples'.

1. There's a difference between religious freedom and things like racism and homophobia.  Selecting a certain group to exclude because of who they are is nothing like praying in public.

2. I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. 

3. Shouldn't you follow your own advise, before handing it out to others.

 

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2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

But fun.

Americans should just have courthouses attached to all public buildings.  

Canada had public school prayer 6 years ago... oops somebody forgot, so they fixed it... no culture war needed.  This is why I tell people that Canada has become what America tried to be.

If Bush Cheney was here more often I wouldn't get away with that one ?

Thought I'd detail my previous response a bit.

Orgies...fun when ur young...being married presents a wrinkle...and at my age, think I'll just watch for a spell.

I remember The Lord's Prayer in elementary school. It didn't bother the kids. It did help teach routine. I believe it does help with "team building" or "nation building". Sad they couldn't have simply replaced it with some other beneficial routine. Maybe we should start treating the kids to singing Oh Canada every morning...whudya think?

Canada is one of the best places to live. That much is obvious. America...went a different route and it shows. The subtle distinctions between the 2 cultures. They have the "right" to have guns because they won their independence in a war. We have "permission" to own guns because...our independence is not so independent...

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1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

1   I remember The Lord's Prayer in elementary school. It didn't bother the kids. It did help teach routine.

2  I believe it does help with "team building" or "nation building". Sad they couldn't have simply replaced it with some other beneficial routine. 

3.  Maybe we should start treating the kids to singing Oh Canada every morning...whudya think?

1.  How would you know who it bothered?  What about the kids who's parents followed a different religion - do you suppose they felt comfortable, accepted, respected, or even allowed to admit their difference, and they're forced to recite a prayer to a God they didn't worship?

2.  There are other ways to team build, or nation build.  CBC is good for nation building, but conservatives hate it.

3.  I'd support that.

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1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

1. Maybe we should start treating the kids to singing Oh Canada every morning...whudya think?

2. They have the "right" to have guns because they won their independence in a war. We have "permission" to own guns because...our independence is not so independent...

1.  They already do don't they ?  I'd prefer Lightfoot's "Early Morning Rain" m'self.
2.  We're good.

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1 minute ago, dialamah said:

1.  How would you know who it bothered?  What about the kids who's parents followed a different religion - do you suppose they felt comfortable, accepted, respected, or even allowed to admit their difference, and they're forced to recite a prayer to a God they didn't worship?

2.  There are other ways to team build, or nation build.  CBC is good for nation building, but conservatives hate it.

3.  I'd support that.

1. Don't be silly. All 3 of the Abrahamic religions worship the same thing. The rest have the same general concept.

2. Hence not very good at nation building. As far as I'm concerned...the CBC should be pure Canadian content. At least I wouldn't mind paying for it so much.

3. Good. That's 1. Mike?

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4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1.  They already do don't they ?  I'd prefer Lightfoot's "Early Morning Rain" m'self.
2.  We're good.

lol...we're good? We're different.

I don't think they sing Oh Canada every morning Mike.

 

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5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

1. Don't be silly. All 3 of the Abrahamic religions worship the same thing. The rest have the same general concept.

2. Hence not very good at nation building. As far as I'm concerned...the CBC should be pure Canadian content. At least I wouldn't mind paying for it so much.

3. Good. That's 1. Mike?

1.  As an JW, when my daughter in school, I chose to have her sit out in the hallway during morning prayers, because everyone else was "false", whether aetheist, Christian, Muslim or Jews and were praying to a false God.  So, no, they aren't all "the same".

2. It's hardly the fault of the CBC that conservatives have some bee in their bonnet about it.  Conservatives (in general, not you specfically) are expert at putting down anything Canadian that they don't like, it seems.  Calling Canada fascist and a dictatorship, calling liberal minded people Nazis and marxists.  Maybe a little more CBC in their lives would help them appreciate Canada more.

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2 hours ago, dialamah said:

Ah, so death threats and intimidation is ok if you agree with the political viewpoint of the agressor.  Do you also agree with this one, posted by a member here:  MostAll demonrats actually should get punchedshot.

For the record, I do not excuse death threats from anyone, even the one made against Kavanaugh.   

Ah so violent breakups of peaceful demonstrations are OK with you provided you disagree with the cause.

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9 minutes ago, West said:

Ah so violent breakups of peaceful demonstrations are OK with you provided you disagree with the cause.

It wasn't a peaceful demonstration; it was noisy, disruptive and intimidating to folks who lived nearby.

I don't approve of the Old Growth Forest people who are blocking traffic during rush hour in the Lower Mainland.  The police move them away, sometimes physically.  Do you support their protest or do you support the police moving them?

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3 minutes ago, dialamah said:

It wasn't a peaceful demonstration; it was noisy, disruptive and intimidating to folks who lived nearby.

I don't approve of the Old Growth Forest people who are blocking traffic during rush hour in the Lower Mainland.  The police move them away, sometimes physically.  Do you support their protest or do you support the police moving them?

Riiiight. And the nut cases burning flags and intimidating SC justices is democracy in action. 

It was only intimidating as the mentally unhinged lefties believed they were basically neo nazis which was a lie. Bought into the demonization by the pathetic "Prime Minister"

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42 minutes ago, dialamah said:

1. There's a difference between religious freedom and things like racism and homophobia.  Selecting a certain group to exclude because of who they are is nothing like praying in public.

2. I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. 

3. Shouldn't you follow your own advise, before handing it out to others.

 

1. Why who's a racist? Who's a homophobe - what even is that?\

2. Then allow me to educate. Lawfare is running a grievance through the legal process just to do it.

Because "the process is the punishment" and what that means should be obvious but just for you, I'll look it up because I don't want to you to get confused anymore than you are:

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Once merely a tool to pressure real criminals that have committed real crimes, the left has discovered that “lawfare” can be used to modify behavior and/or punish their enemies. There is the case of a Christian baker who refused to bake a cake specifically celebrating a same-sex “marriage,” which violated his religious beliefs. His case went all the way to the Supreme court, where he won after much personal angst and severe depletion of his family’s net worth. That didn’t deter the left. They have again gone after him on the “trans-gender” front. Their objective is to either get his willing compliance or run him out of business.

 

This same technique was used against LTG Michael Flynn, one-time National Security Advisor to President Trump. When corrupt elements inside the DOJ couldn’t get dirt on President Trump, they attempted to coerce such information from Flynn. LTG Flynn was forced to admit to a (non) crime that he didn’t really commit, in order to protect his son from harassment and to avoid putting his family into penury. Only the highly public nature of the case and the timely arrival of a decent attorney to represent him put a stop to that effort. Even then an obviously corrupt judge refused to accept the DOJ finally dropping the charges when their malfeasance was finally exposed.

At first glance, we could say that in the cases of the Christian baker and LTG Flynn the “forces of good, defeated evil.” But what about those of us regular folk? What about those of us who aren’t famous, like General Flynn or Donald Trump, who is undergoing his own personal victimization at the hands of the NY Attorney General? Not all of us have the financial means to defend ourselves. Not all of us will be lucky enough to have our case get national attention, like the Christian baker, and get some legal assistance

Even those on our team who have managed to find financial help via GoFundMe have had that avenue cut off as the leftists who run that organization determined that conservatives were evil and not eligible for their services.

 

So, back to the vast majority of January 6th protestors who didn’t sit in Pelosi’s chair or try to walk off with her podium. You know, those folks who were invited in by the Capitol Police and took selfies with those same police officers as they leisurely strolled through Statuary Hall—making sure to remain within the velvet guide ropes? Those folks? Even if they walk away with only a misdemeanor conviction—or no conviction at all, the left will have won that round. By dragging them through the Federal justice system, draining their net worth, browbeating them, and scaring the hell out of them, the left will have ensured that for the most part, very few of these folks will ever show overt, albeit peaceful resistance to even the most obvious corruption by leftist DC elites.

Bottom line? No conviction is necessary. The process has indeed become the punishment.

The Process is the Punishment

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12 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

1. Why who's a racist? Who's a homophobe - what even is that?\

2. Then allow me to educate. Lawfare is running a grievance through the legal process just to do it.

Because "the process is the punishment" and what that means should be obvious but just for you, I'll look it up because I don't want to you to get confused anymore than you are:

The Process is the Punishment

1.  Silly questions.

2.  Thank you; I disagree wholeheartedly.  Anyone who loses can claim that "they were unfairly treated"; the claim does not make it true.  That goes for the claims of vote rigging, illegal votes and a stolen election by Trump and Company. January 6 wasn't a quiet stroll through the capital.  The overtly expressed intent of the rioters was to remove the democratically elected President, and install Trump in his place.  That's insurrection.

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