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1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

The Demon Haunted World is such a terrific book (PDF).

 

The situation is similar to Ukraine. You learn that there are germ labs set-up in that lovely place by us...and that we've been training, supporting and nurturing Nazis...banning anything Russian as unpatriotic and 'disinformation'...but we're the good guys....damn it.

 

Thanks to Putin he went into Ukraine and bombed the hell out of most of those bio weapons labs that were created by America. Putin did not want those labs on his doorstep and thus he wanted them all gone. Stories have it that it has been the Ukranian Nazi military that has been doing all the bombing on the people of Ukraine and it has been the Russian army that has been trying to help the Ukranian people out by giving them food and shelter and protection.

RT.com and many other alternative news media outlets are trying very hard to get the other side of the story out and to the people of Ukraine and the rest of the world. The worse people to listen to are those in the fake and lying MSM globalist controlled media. They are being paid to lie as to what is really going on in Ukraine. Putin is not the real enemy here but corrupt Zelensky is the bad guy here. Believe it or not. ?

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The word is, American operatives were on the ground in Ukraine, blowing up some of the labs before the Russians could get to them.

Russia has also apparently captured some Americans(and a shit ton of documents), who will be singing once the deluded western media can handle the truth.

Guess who else has some bio labs?  Starts with a T and ends with a aiwan.

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Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens | PLOS Biology
 

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Vaccines that let the hosts survive but do not prevent the spread of the pathogen relax this selection, allowing the evolution of hotter pathogens to occur. This type of vaccine is often called a leaky vaccine. When vaccines prevent transmission, as is the case for nearly all vaccines used in humans, this type of evolution towards increased virulence is blocked.

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But when vaccines leak, allowing at least some pathogen transmission, they could create the ecological conditions that would allow hot strains to emerge and persist.


 

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 If the vaccine is sterilizing, so that transmission is stopped, no evolution can occur. But if it is non-sterilizing, so that naturally acquired pathogens can transmit from immunized individuals (what we hereafter call a “leaky” vaccine), virulent strains will be able to circulate in situations in which natural selection would have once removed them

This is the first time in human history that leaky vaccines have been forced on the entire world's population.

Prior to covid, Fauci is on record many times lamenting the fact that vaccine development and testing usually takes about 10 years before they can be marketed and fantasizing about how great it would be to test on humans much sooner.

Looks like he got his wish.

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The imperfect-vaccine hypothesis attracted controversy [1114], not least because human vaccines have apparently not caused an increase in the virulence of their target pathogens. But most human vaccines are sterilizing (transmission-blocking) or not in widespread use or only recently introduced 

 

 

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Onward Transmission

To confirm that virus shed into the environment was a robust proxy for overall bird-to-bird transmission potential, we co-housed birds infected with our three most virulent strains with immunologically-naïve sentinel birds (Experiment 2). When unvaccinated birds were infected with the two most lethal strains (Md5 and 675A), they were all dead within 10 days (Fig 2A), before substantial viral shedding had begun (S2 Fig). Consequently, no sentinel birds in those isolators became infected (Fig 2B) and none died (Fig 2C). In contrast, when HVT-vaccinated birds were infected with either of those hyperpathogenic strains, they survived for 30 days or more (Fig 2A), allowing substantial viral shedding (S2 Fig). All co-housed sentinels consequently became infected (Fig 2B) and went on to die as a result of MDV infection (Fig 2C). Thus, in accordance with the imperfect-vaccine hypothesis, vaccination enabled the onward transmission of viruses otherwise too lethal to transmit, putting unvaccinated individuals at great risk of severe disease and death.

 

What this means is that because a leaky vaccine was used, it does not sterilize the virus and destroy it.  Instead, it allows the virus the room it needs to mutate around any benefits the vaccine might give.

This means that every vaccinated person on the planet is now dangerous.  Their bodies are now the perfect laboratories for the virus to mutate and become stronger.

In addition, because their bodies, as proven in many studies, do not STOP producing the toxic spike - they are shedding it which is also contributing to increased cases and deaths.

Really, the only out of this now is for every vaccinated person to now do what they demanded others do and risk their own lives.  The next shot, instead of being a "booster" should be actual covid so that they might possibly develop some natural immunity (although this is also iffy, since the vaccines appear to be already REDUCING people's immunity to basically everything now.)

The vaccinated are now plague rats.

They excitedly signed on to be part of the biggest medical experiment in human history and it is now a disaster for humanity.

If only those in trusted institutions had listened to the experts who pointed this exact danger out early - even before the vaccines were forced on everyone - instead of Fauci, who has now fulfilled his life-long dream of experimenting on humans.

Crimes against humanity, indeed.

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Denmark Bans COVID Vaccine for Youth Under 18 (naturalblaze.com)

The Nordic countries seem much faster at following current science than the rest of the world.

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Denmark has announced that people under the age of 18 are no longer allowed to get the COVID vaccine.

Those wanting their first shot were cut off after July 1, and no one in the age group — aside from those who are considered “high risk” and have a doctor’s note — will be allowed to get a second shot after September 1.

“Children and adolescents only very rarely become seriously ill from COVID-19 with the omicron variant. Therefore, from July 1, 2022, it will no longer be possible for children and adolescents under the age of 18 to get the 1st [shot], and from September 1, 2022, it will no longer be possible to get the 2nd [shot],” reads a government statement.

Despite this decision from Denmark, babies are now eligible to receive three rounds of Moderna’s Covid vaccine in Canada, even though COVID poses no greater threat to babies than the flu does, and Health Canada admits they lack long-term safety data.

Moreover, various health authorities have recently highlighted the risks of adverse effects that exist from the COVID vaccines.

Germany’s ministry of health recently tweeted there’s a 1 in 5000 chance people receive a “serious adverse effect” from the vaccines.

This came just days after Ontario’s CMHO refused to say healthy people “should” get boosted with what he referred to as a “therapeutic” due to the risk of myocarditis being 1 in 5000.

While it seems that more and more authorities are warning of the risks of vaccines — which, according to Denmark, are greater than the risk of COVID for the young and healthy — few countries are willing to say outright that the risks outweigh the benefits.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

It's perfectly relevant.

It shows that the leaky vaccines are doing exactly what leaky vaccines are known to do.  Known since at least 2015.

But newer versions of COVID are not worse? They're more transmissible but far less pathogenic. 

IMO The COVID vaccine protected well against more virulent versions of the virus. But it's wildly outdated. 

 

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1 minute ago, Boges said:

But newer versions of COVID are not worse? They're more transmissible but far less pathogenic. 

IMO The COVID vaccine protected well against more virulent versions of the virus. But it's wildly outdated. 

 

Your opinion has always only taken MSM headlines as expert testimony, so......

From the article you said was not relevant:

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Vaccine failure in the face of virulent pathogens has been documented for at least two viruses other than MDV: feline calicivirus [43] and infectious bursal disease virus in poultry [44]. Both cases are also associated with long-term use of leaky anti-disease vaccines.

100% relevant.

This was KNOWN before they forced these leaky vaccines on the public.

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12 minutes ago, Boges said:

The COVID vaccine protected well against more virulent versions of the virus.

No one is disputing that initially they seemed to stem the covid tide for at-risk groups.

The problem is that leaky vaccines only give a temporary reprieve.  Now those at-risk groups have had their immune systems destroyed by the use of the leaky vaccines, as shown in every solid data set from every highly vaxxed country.

Vaccinated elderly are contracting and dying of the milder variant at far greater rates than the unvaccinated.  Their immune systems are now testing in the NEGATIVE for the Omicron variants.  Thsi means the have LESS immunity to Omicron than the unvaccianted.

This is what leaky vaccines do.  This is WHY they have never been used like this before.

This is why so many doctors and scientists at the top of their fields of virology and immunology have sounded the alarm since before they were forced on everyone.

This was KNOWN SCIENCE.  Known science that was tossed out the window, in favour of Big Pharma profit.

 

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23 hours ago, Goddess said:

I chalk it up to this:

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Quoting Carl Sagan as if he was talking about vaccine conspiracies is pretty rich. 
 

Have you actually read the book that the quote is from?  It’s call the “Demon-haunted World:  Science as a Candle in the Dark”. 
 

Im quite certain that Dr. Sagan would not be drawing the same conclusions as your conspiracy-addled mind.  

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Just now, TreeBeard said:

Quoting Carl Sagan as if he was talking about vaccine conspiracies is pretty rich. 
 

Have you actually read the book that the quote is from?  It’s call the “Demon-haunted World:  Science as a Candle in the Dark”. 
 

Im quite certain that Dr. Sagan would not be drawing the same conclusions as your conspiracy-addled mind.  

Shoo.

You've already said that you view peer-reviewed studies as "conspiracy theories" and that you refuse to read them.

You're like Boges - a waste of time.  No intelligent discussion can be had with you.

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3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Shoo.

You've already said that you view peer-reviewed studies as "conspiracy theories" and that you refuse to read them.

You're like Boges - a waste of time.  No intelligent discussion can be had with you.

You didn’t read Dr. Sagan’s book, did you?   
 

Funny that you’d quote a scientist out of context.  He wasn’t a fan of conspiracy thinking. 

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14 minutes ago, Goddess said:

No one is disputing that initially they seemed to stem the covid tide for at-risk groups.

The problem is that leaky vaccines only give a temporary reprieve.  Now those at-risk groups have had their immune systems destroyed by the use of the leaky vaccines, as shown in every solid data set from every highly vaxxed country.

So people that get an annual flu shot have destroyed their immune system? I seriously doubt that. 

 

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Vaccinated elderly are contracting and dying of the milder variant at far greater rates than the unvaccinated.  Their immune systems are now testing in the NEGATIVE for the Omicron variants.  Thsi means the have LESS immunity to Omicron than the unvaccianted.

Of Comparable age? If so, Cite? 

Unvaccinated are more likely younger, so of course they have better outcomes. 

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5 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

You didn’t read Dr. Sagan’s book, did you?   
 

Funny that you’d quote a scientist out of context.  He wasn’t a fan of conspiracy thinking. 

He was talking about bamboozles in general.

Which does not discount medical bamboozles.

Sagan was pretty straighforward.  If he wanted to say ".....Except medical bamboozles, which never happen." he would have said that.

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1 minute ago, Boges said:

So people that get an annual flu shot have destroyed their immune system? I seriously doubt that. 

 

Of Comparable age? If so, Cite? 

Unvaccinated are more likely younger, so of course they have better outcomes. 

The answers to these questions are in the peer-reviewed studies and other articles that explain the studies.

The answers are also in the current data sets of the UK, US, Israel and Canada and basically every highly vaxxed country, some of which I have posted and discussed in this thread.

Your questions reflect that your thinking has been highly influenced by MSM headlines and that you are not keeping up with current data and real world situations.

Your excitement at jabbing up your 2 year old reflects the same.  FYI - you're the minority there.  Vaccine uptake in children in the US for children is far below what they wanted.  Many parents are seeing that the risks outweigh any benefits for children.

 

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15 minutes ago, Goddess said:

He was talking about bamboozles in general.

Which does not discount medical bamboozles.

Sagan was pretty straighforward.  If he wanted to say ".....Except medical bamboozles, which never happen." he would have said that.

Did you read the book that you quoted from?  You should…. 

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7 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The answers are also in the current data sets of the UK, US, Israel and Canada and basically every highly vaxxed country, some of which I have posted and discussed in this thread.

It interesting that you have to take this position that increased infection rates now mean that COVID is actually a continued threat to most people. It's not. Hospitalization figures prove that. 

You just use it to parrot your Anti-Vax hysteria. Other hysterics consider it evidence we still need to mandate masks in all public places. Two sides of the crazy person coin. 

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Your excitement at jabbing up your 2 year old reflects the same.  FYI - you're the minority there.  Vaccine uptake in children in the US for children is far below what they wanted.  Many parents are seeing that the risks outweigh any benefits for children.

Who says I'll vaccinate my child? At this point, this version of the vaccine is useless. 

If an updated Omicron version comes out, can Anti-vaxxers still call the vaccine experimental? 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Boges said:

The irony here is Lulz. 

If you want to discuss immune imprinting and OAS and how it relates to leaky vaccines and how the data sets from all over the world are coming in now and showing this is what is happening, I'm fine with that.

But you join this thread, dont' read or respond to the information presented and then throw in "annual flu shot" which hasn't been discussed once here.  

It's very clear this thread is about the covid vaccines.  If you want to discuss the annual flu shot, start a thread of your own.

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3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

This thread is not about Sagan's books.

If you want to discuss his take on bamboozles in depth, start a thread of your own.

Sorry, who quoted Sagan in the first place?

I highly recommend all of Sagan’s books.  But a vaccine conspiracy theorist using his quotes is the dictionary definition of ironic.  

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6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

But you join this thread, dont' read or respond to the information presented and then throw in "annual flu shot" which hasn't been discussed once here.  

Is the flu shot not an example of a "Leaky vaccine"? 

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31 minutes ago, Goddess said:

It's very clear this thread is about the covid vaccines.  If you want to discuss the annual flu shot, start a thread of your own.

You post a study from 2015 and say its findings on "Leaky Vaccines" is universal.  The COVID vaccine is "Leaky" so its destroying people's immune systems.

Even though the method is completely new. 

A flu shot would be a more apt comparison as it's also quite "leaky". 

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27 minutes ago, Boges said:

A flu shot would be a more apt comparison as it's also quite "leaky". 

Flu shots are not forced on everybody.

The reason they are not forced on everybody is because they would do exactly what this leaky vaccine is doing.

27 minutes ago, Boges said:

Even though the method is completely new. 

Yes.  It was an experiment.  As you can see from the research done prior to covid, the problems with leaky vaccines and administering them willy-nilly were well known.

To immunologists and virologists who were aware of this or took the time to search out the information, what is happening now is no surprise.  It was totally expected and was warned about.

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9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Flu shots are not forced on everybody.

The reason they are not forced on everybody is because they would do exactly what this leaky vaccine is doing.

I will concede that mandating COVID vaccines, at this point, is punitive.

Now in 2021, that was a different story. 

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To immunologists and virologists who were aware of this or took the time to search out the information, what is happening now is no surprise.  It was totally expected and was warned about.

What? Mutations? That would have happened without the vaccine. 

Some of the worst variants arose before vaccination was widespread. 

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