Yzermandius19 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: So claim the right to be overlord of women’s bodies based on states rights. Still makes you a misogynist. no it doesn't women don't have extra rights the sexist here is you who thinks men should have no say Edited July 1, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: no it doesn't women don't have extra rights But you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 Just now, Aristides said: But you do. what extra rights do I have? aside from none Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: what extra rights do I have? aside from none Men had more rights than women for centuries. You are too big a misogynist to give them up and have to be master even though it is something that could never apply to you. You were born 200 years too late. Edited July 1, 2022 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: Men had more rights than women for centuries. You are too big a misogynist to give them up and have to be master even thought it is something that could never apply to you. You were born 200 years too late. is it centuries ago? no, then I have no extra rights and the playing field has been leveled you now support women having extra rights, when it was wrong to give men extra rights meaning you are more like the men who didn't want to give up their extra rights than me punishing men for the past will not change history, but it will perpetuate the sexist problem into the future, just with a new oppressed sex Edited July 1, 2022 by Yzermandius19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said: is it centuries ago? no, then I have no extra rights and the playing field has been leveled you now support women having extra rights, when it was wrong to give men extra rights meaning you are more like the men who didn't want to give up their extra rights than me punishing men for the past will not change history, but it will perpetuate the sexist problem into the future, just with a new oppressed sex How is the playing field level if you get to tell women what they can do with their bodies? The should have the same jurisdiction over men’s bodies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Aristides said: How is the playing field level if you get to tell women what they can do with their bodies? The should have the same jurisdiction over men’s bodies I'm not telling women what do with their bodies an unborn child's body is not their body Edited July 1, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 41 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: I'm not telling women what do with their bodies an unborn child's body is not their body Bullshit. I’ve got an idea. Every male gets a vasectomy at puberty an needs a woman’s permission to have it reversed. Seems fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: Bullshit. I’ve got an idea. Every male gets a vasectomy at puberty an needs a woman’s permission to have it reversed. Seems fair. you think punishing men is fair and you think extra "rights" for women is fine while extra rights for men is abhorrent you're not even pro-women you're just anti-men, admit it Edited July 1, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: you think punishing men is fair and you think extra "rights" for women is fine while extra rights for men is abhorrent you're not even pro-women you're just anti-men, admit it Punishing? Are you serious? What’s more difficult, a reversible vasectomy or carrying a foetus to term and raising a kid for 18 years? Misogynist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Aristides said: Punishing? Are you serious? What’s more difficult, a reversible vasectomy or carrying a foetus to term and raising a kid for 18 years? Misogynist not all vasectomies are reversible and women having to deal with difficulties men don't have to is not grounds to punish men punishing men because life ain't fair is sexist and asinine Edited July 1, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: not all vasectomies are reversible and women having to deal with difficulties men don't have to is not grounds to punish men punishing men because life ain't fair is sexist and asinine This isn't about "saving babies" it's about control. Men having control. "Women have to deal with difficulties men don't have to" but aren't entitled to any rights which would allow them to. You are a fucking hypocrite and misogynist.. Edited July 1, 2022 by Aristides 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Aristides said: This isn't about "saving babies" it's about control. Men having control. "Women have to deal with difficulties men don't have to" but aren't entitled to any rights which would allow them to. You are a fucking hypocrite and misogynist.. no it's about saving babies women aren't entitled to extra "rights" to kill babies killing babies is not a right human life > women's convenience Edited July 1, 2022 by Yzermandius19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: no it's about saving babies women aren't entitled to extra "rights" to kill babies killing babies is not a right human life > women's convenience It's about control. As a man, you aren't prepared to lift a finger to prevent pregnancies. You just have no respect for women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Aristides said: It's about control. As a man, you aren't prepared to lift a finger to prevent pregnancies. You just have no respect for women. saying that doesn't make it true demanding extra "rights" for women is about control demanding the federal government tell the states how to regulate abortion is about control you keep projecting your own faults on those you disagree with you are far more guilty of the things you accuse others of than they are which is why you don't understand those you disagree with at all and jump to ridiculous conclusions about them Edited July 1, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: saying that doesn't make it true demanding extra "rights" for women is about control demanding the federal government tell the states how to regulate abortion is about control you keep projecting your own faults on those you disagree with you are far more guilty of the things you accuse others of than they are which is why you don't understand those you disagree with at all Oh, bullshit. If your condom breaks or her birth control fails and she gets pregnant. Not your problem, you just walk away and she gets a life sentence. You're right, I don't understand why you feel the need to control women Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Aristides said: Oh, bullshit. If your condom breaks or her birth control fails and she gets pregnant. Not your problem, you just walk away and she gets a life sentence. You're right, I don't understand why you feel the need to control women your beef is with nature I have nothing to do with it I wouldn't abandon my child or it's mother if the birth control fails and I certainly wouldn't kill them you are projecting on me again Edited July 1, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: your beef is with nature I have nothing to do with it I wouldn't abandon my child or it's mother if the birth control fails and I certainly wouldn't kill them you are projecting on me again Your beef is with women, You have everything to do with it. You are just a control freak. The point is, you have no legal obligation not to abandon that child and she has no right to force you. She is dependant on you and that's the way you want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Aristides said: Your beef is with women, You have everything to do with it. You are just a control freak. The point is, you have no legal obligation not to abandon that child and she has no right to force you. She is dependant on you and that's the way you want it. can your mind reading skills get any worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: can your mind reading skills get any worse? I think they are pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: I think they are pretty good. nope you probably have the worst mind reading skills on this entire forum no wait, French Patriot has you beat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: nope you probably have the worst mind reading skills on this entire forum no wait, French Patriot has you beat my advice Aristides stop trying to read people's minds and try reading their actual posts that alone will improve your understanding of those you disagree with substantially knocking off the strawmen ftw pro tip you still will probably suck at understanding the opposition but you might get out of the bottom five forum members at least Edited July 1, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 16 hours ago, Aristides said: Married to the same woman for 53 years Then you have found the secret to marriage, I assume you have done so with communication and a lot of other things, especially on such a huge topic as abortion if it ever came up. and that decision would be made together and what is good for your family unit. and while it is her body, in a normal family setting I would hope that decision would be made together. And not with my wife just telling me we are having an abortion, no discussion of my body, my choice! I still don't understand relying on abortion as a birth control measure, when there are literally thousands of products out there, and in Canada available almost everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Army Guy said: Then you have found the secret to marriage, I assume you have done so with communication and a lot of other things, especially on such a huge topic as abortion if it ever came up. and that decision would be made together and what is good for your family unit. and while it is her body, in a normal family setting I would hope that decision would be made together. And not with my wife just telling me we are having an abortion, no discussion of my body, my choice! I still don't understand relying on abortion as a birth control measure, when there are literally thousands of products out there, and in Canada available almost everywhere. Sure we would have discussed it but the bottom line is it would be her choice. She would be having the abortion, not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Aristides said: Sure we would have discussed it but the bottom line is it would be her choice. She would be having the abortion, not me. And if you disagreed for various reasons, I guess that would test a marriage would it not? Those types of discussions would have already happened or so I hoped. Questions like do you want kids, when, where, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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