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20 hours ago, Nationalist said:

1. I see you've found yourself at a loss for any reasonable arguments 

2. Up until 2015...when Trump stunned the world...we had semi-stability. You could argue that the turmoil that went into overdrive after that ride down the golden escalator, brought an unwanted culture war.  

3. Only a zealot could choke down the crap we've watched this last 7 years. The insanity has been of a nature as to inspire more insanity. Cause...and affect.

 

1. You didn't answer my question, so I assume that you have abandoned the assertion that I am in some cult.

2. War on Christmas anyone? FOX and Friends make money from perpetuating the culture war.

3. Trump was a paradigm change in Politics and a wholly negative one in the eyes of many, hence his low approval ratings.

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11 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

FFS. Its not “selective prosecution” where one is perfectly and explicitly  legal, dumbass  

And literally everyone with money does it for both Democrats and Republicans. I think it’s hilarious that you ignore all the Republicans who also make large donations theorou SuperPacs amd who in fact invented it and fought in the courts to make it legal. You  single out only the one guy who donated to democrats. That’s  “selective prosecution” in the kangaroo court that is your brain. 
 

Dsouza was not a misdemeanour it was a felony. He was convicted  of a felony. Stop lying   
 

As for proof here’s the ver first hit on Google 


 

The Republican megadonor funding the party’s 2022 hopes

The GOP donor was the biggest contributor to Republicans' biggest super PACs in 2021.

CHICAGO — The single biggest spender in Republican politics pumped more than $28 million into the GOP in 2021 — and he’s expected to multiply that number leading into the midterms.

Ken Griffin, the founder and CEO of the hedge fund Citadel, was the largest individual donor last year to the GOP super PACs aiming to flip control of Congress, contributing $11 million to the Congressional Leadership Fund and $5 million to Senate Leadership Fund. He splashed another $5 million apiece into Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ PAC and into Honor Pennsylvania, a super PAC backing fellow hedge funder Dave McCormick — and opposing celebrity physician Mehmet Oz — in Pennsylvania’s GOP Senate primary, making Griffin the biggest individual donor to those two groups so far.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2022/02/03/ken-griffin-donor-midterm-cash-00005052
 

 

And from 2020:

Sheldon Adelson’s super PAC spending spree shaped GOP politics

Adelson, who died Monday, combined with his wife to donate more to Republicans than multiple other megadonors combined.

 

The Adelsons made $218 million in federal donations in 2019 and 2020 — over three times more than the next-biggest GOP donors, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. They accounted for more than one-quarter of all Republican outside spending on President Donald Trump’s behalf in this election: $90 million out of $353 million in total, per CRP. 

And over the last five years, the Adelsons gave $280 million to House and Senate Republicans’ main super PACs, supplying more than one-third of the funding for Congressional Leadership Fund and nearly one-quarter of Senate Leadership Fund’s total during that time, according to a POLITICO review of FEC data. Their total federal giving over the last decade topped a half-billion dollars.
 

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/01/12/adelson-super-pac-gop-458380
 


Did you read that last part?  Half a BILLION DOLLARS, @Infidel Dog


And finally here are the top 20 political donors from 2020, as you can see its overwhelmingly  Republican donors. And, the top 2 Democrats (who were the biggest donors overall) are people who ran for president themselves and were simply donating to their own campaigns, not buying politicians (Bloomberg and Steyer)  

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2021/02/25/these-billionaire-donors-spent-the-most-money-on-the-2020-election/?sh=4a72e14a14ce

Ahh...poor Beave. You put so much work into that all week I'm almost sorry I have to pop your bubble.

But I do. 

As to what Zuckerberg did being "perfectly and explicitly  legal"...not exactly.

It differs by state but in Wisconsin, for example a Wisconsin Elections Commission found it was not "technically illegal" in December however in February...

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Nearly $9 million in Zuckerberg grant funds directed solely to five Democratic strongholds in Wisconsin violated the state’s election code’s prohibition on bribery. That conclusion represents but one of the many troubling findings detailed in the report submitted today by a state-appointed special counsel to the Wisconsin Assembly.

https://iotwreport.com/special-counsel-finds-zuckerbucks-violated-wisconsin-bribery-laws/

Now as to your Apples/Oranges comparison of Super Pacs to donations to 501c's.

Here's the story on Super Pacs:

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Super PACs are a relatively new type of committee that arose following the July 2010 federal court decision in a case known as SpeechNow.org v. Federal Election Commission.

Technically known as independent expenditure-only committees, super PACs may raise unlimited sums of money from corporations, unions, associations and individuals, then spend unlimited sums to overtly advocate for or against political candidates. Unlike traditional PACs, super PACs are prohibited from donating money directly to political candidates, and their spending must not be coordinated with that of the candidates they benefit. Super PACs are required to report their donors to the Federal Election Commission on a monthly or semiannual basis — the super PAC's choice — in off-years, and monthly in the year of an election.

https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/super-pacs/2020

The Zuckerbergs donated to nonprofit 501 c's. Here's the problem with donating to 501 c's when there's a political pretense:

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Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. Contributions to political campaign funds or public statements of position (verbal or written) made on behalf of the organization in favor of or in opposition to any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign activity.  Violating this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of certain excise taxes.

https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/the-restriction-of-political-campaign-intervention-by-section-501c3-tax-exempt-organizations

The way the Zucks and their 501c's got around that was they didn't donate to a specific campaign. They donated under the pretense of only wanting to help the electoral process.

The Republican Super Pac donations you cite were made over time to support multiple specific targets. 

The Zuckerberg donations were a 1 time donation to corrupt the electoral process to work in favor of one candidate in a presidential election.

I'm not sure if you understand what the Zuckerbucks actually did.

Liz Wheeler explains:

 

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But yeah, it does look like the Zuckerbergs found a temporary loophole. However it's doubtful they'll get away with it with impunity again.

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House Republicans introduced a bill Thursday that would prohibit non-profit organizations from providing direct funding to election organizations in an attempt to stop wealthy donors from influencing elections in a hidden fashion.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house-republicans-end-zuckerbucks-act-non-profits-donating-election-organizations-mark-zuckerberg

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After Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg poured $350 million into the “nonpartisan” Center for Tech and Civic Life (CTCL) to help election administration in cities and counties nationwide during the 2020 election, states like Arizona are pushing back against private overreach in elections.

Arizona Governor Doug Ducey signed HB 2569 into law on Friday, banning election officials at every level from accepting outside funding to administer elections. In signing the bill, Governor Ducey said:

 With public confidence in our elections in peril, it’s clear that elections must be pristine and above reproach — and the sole purview of government.

https://www.rnla.org/states_line_up_to_ban_zuckerbucks

I suspect the Soros's and the Steyer's and that whole bunch of billionaires that back the Democrat party have been doing similar to the Zuckerberg scam for years but in a lesser, more clandestine way. The Zucks pulled back the curtain though. I suspect his fellow Democrat billionaires are also pissed at him.

Oh and speaking of Democrat billionaires did you notice in the Forbes link you offered that 3 of the top 5 donators were Democrats, as were the top 2? (And one of the top 5 Republican donators is dead, so scratch him for upcoming elections.)

 

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8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. You didn't answer my question, so I assume that you have abandoned the assertion that I am in some cult.

2. War on Christmas anyone? FOX and Friends make money from perpetuating the culture war.

3. Trump was a paradigm change in Politics and a wholly negative one in the eyes of many, hence his low approval ratings.

The Traitor is a grifter, always has and always will be.  All the crap he claims that he is running about his "Defense Fund" is just another scam, all that money is going into his pocket at the speed of light.  He views his supporters as nothing more than an untapped bank which he will continuse to steal from until they (if ever they) wise up to his grift.

He knows he lost in 2020, but he needs money and he needs a mark to get his money.  Nothing more.

Anyone who gives that grifter money would do better, as a CWO3 (Chief Warrent Officer 3rd Class, equal to a Captain in the commissioned ranks) once told me, "To get into a helicopter and open your wallet and the wind carry your cash".

For all the noise about H.B. making money while Daddy is office, look no further to the Hundreds of Millions of Dollars Ivanka, Jared, Don Jr., and Eric made while the Traitor was in office.  The only difference is that Biden is Democrat and the Traitor pretending to be a Republican.  I say pretend because that is exactly what he is, a pretender.  He has changed political parties more times than he has lied.

His ego cannot stand being a loser, a huge freaking loser.  His over developed sense of ego, coupled with his narcissitic personality cannot and will not accept that loss.  The one thing is his negligent Dad hated were losers.  

Anyone and everyone who does believe that the Traitor won the election is unworthy...his own daughter and fellow grifter Ivanka is an example.  As soon as she agreed with Barr, her dad kicked her under bus and into the gutter.

It is that he wants to be president, it is that he wants to a winner.  Winning is the thing matters to him and at no matter the cost

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Breonna Taylor and her boyfriend were law-abiding citizens and the police who lied on their search warrant didn’t identify themselves when they entered the home in masks. That’s a fact. 

That's all bullshit.

Brionna rented a car the year before that turned up with a dead body in the trunk. She was involved with her ex as a drug dealer. Packages for him were still arriving at her house. They did identify themselves as police, her boyfriend at the time - the guy that shot one of them to start the gunfight - admitted that he thought that it was her ex pretending to be a cop when they knocked and said they were police.

You don't know SFA after all this time because you're addicted to fake news sources, but don't let that stop you from running your mouth.

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Nobody said smollett was a victim and

 The MSM gobbled up Smollett's story and made it national news, despite the fact that it was the dumbest story ever. He got to cry on national TV and make his stupid accusations. 

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I’ve never heard of your sandman nonsense.

Uh-huh. The entire MSM ran with the story of Sandman being a smug, racist punk because he had his smiling face right above the drum of a First Nations man who was banging on it while singing. 

Turns out, Sandman was standing still while the guy walked up on him and beat the drum in his face. He was just a 17-yr-old kid attending a pro-life rally. Not a smug racist. 

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Hillary’s lawyer was acquitted and as a result the John Durham witch hunt collapsed. 

Hillary's lawyer was still guilty of providing false evidence to the FBI (the Alfa Bank disinformation), he just didn't get charged with that. He was only charged with "failing to disclose to the FBI that he was working for Hillary when he brought them that disinformation."

The reason that he wasn't found guilty is that he didn't really need to disclose it to the FBI - they already knew he was Hillary's boi because they all hung out together at the Perkins Coie office together (The Dems, FBI and Perkins Coie lawyers had a room at that law office to coordinate their witch hunts). 

 

Thanks for proving just how sucked in you are by MSM bullshit. 

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9 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Hilarious. No they don’t. Like you they respond to any inconvenient facts with bogus claims of “fake news” and “conspiracy” while spewing false facts and BS  

Funny that the last post of yours that I read (above) was chock full of idiotic bullshit that I debunked for you. 

Literally every single one of your posts is just an example of you acting like you're an expert on a topic that you know nothing about. 

Leave it to B?

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10 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

You don’t get it. For then ones that sid have cameras why don’t we see the “mules” making more than 1 drop?  They must have because in order for their claim of 400,000 fake ballots to add up they must have made multiple drops at each location. The footage doesn’t show anyone putting in a large amount of ballots with, just 1 or 2. There’s one clip where a woman puts an envelope in and the film claims there are “3 or 4” envelopes  but there’s no way you can tell that from the film it’s just a white rectangle that could just as likely be only 1 envelope. But even if these “mules” are dropping “3 or 4” at a time it wouldn’t add up. 
 

Then there’s the woman who tossed her gloves the garbage and the film hilariously claims that since she got her gloves in on the first try she must be a “mule” that’s taken many practice shots on that garbage can after each drop. They said she went to that same box “dozens” of times. But the camera on that box only shows her that one time. 
 

This film a a scam to suck money from the already converted 

Trump has six wins so far against the democrats. The democrats have no wins against Trump. But yet, you still do not get it. What makes so many lefty liberal dunces like you keep hoping for a democratic victory against Trump? It just ain't never going to happen, pardner. ?

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4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. War on Christmas anyone? FOX and Friends make money from perpetuating the culture war.

Nothing will ever compare to CNN refusing to show video of M Brown violently robbing a store in the minutes before he got shot, and then perpetuating the "Gentle Giant" myth, and acting like there was no reason at all for cops to even approach him. 

Communities were destroyed and race relations were set back 50 years because of CNN's disinformation campaign. 

Of all the bullshit posts you ever wrote here, that is probably the most disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. 

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8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Funny that the last post of yours that I read (above) was chock full of idiotic bullshit that I debunked for you. 

Literally every single one of your posts is just an example of you acting like you're an expert on a topic that you know nothing about. 

Leave it to B?

The beaver cleaver watches way too much lefty liberal/democrat MSM. Why the Beaver despises Trump so much is beyond me. What did Trump ever do to the Beaver that makes him so hateful of Trump? Maybe one day he will tell us. ?

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4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Nothing will ever compare to CNN refusing to show video of M Brown violently robbing a store in the minutes before he got shot, and then perpetuating the "Gentle Giant" myth, and acting like there was no reason at all for cops to even approach him. 

Communities were destroyed and race relations were set back 50 years because of CNN's disinformation campaign. 

Of all the bullshit posts you ever wrote here, that is probably the most disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. 

MH has no shame. He just hates all things conservative. What an NDP loser. ?

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2 hours ago, taxme said:

What did Trump ever do to the Beaver that makes him so hateful of Trump? 

Nothing. The liberal MSM just tells their sheeple that Trump did things to them, and they are incapable of questioning anything they hear from CTV, CBC and CNN.

MSM: "Hear me my sheeple: TRUMP CALLED ALL IMMIGRANTS ANIMALS!"

The Sheeple: "TRUMP CALLED ALL IMMIGRANTS ANIMALS!"

MSM: "TRUMP IS A LIAR!"

The Sheeple: "TRUMP IS A LIAR!"

Facts: Trump called MS-13 animals, and the MSM lies to you all the time, but you're a bunch of worthless idiots. 

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3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

That's all bullshit.

Brionna rented a car the year before that turned up with a dead body in the trunk. She was involved with her ex as a drug dealer. Packages for him were still arriving at her house. They did identify themselves as police, her boyfriend at the time - the guy that shot one of them to start the gunfight - admitted that he thought that it was her ex pretending to be a cop when they knocked and said they were police.

You don't know SFA after all this time because you're addicted to fake news sources, but don't let that stop you from running your mouth.

 The MSM gobbled up Smollett's story and made it national news, despite the fact that it was the dumbest story ever. He got to cry on national TV and make his stupid accusations. 

Uh-huh. The entire MSM ran with the story of Sandman being a smug, racist punk because he had his smiling face right above the drum of a First Nations man who was banging on it while singing. 

Turns out, Sandman was standing still while the guy walked up on him and beat the drum in his face. He was just a 17-yr-old kid attending a pro-life rally. Not a smug racist. 

Hillary's lawyer was still guilty of providing false evidence to the FBI (the Alfa Bank disinformation), he just didn't get charged with that. He was only charged with "failing to disclose to the FBI that he was working for Hillary when he brought them that disinformation."

The reason that he wasn't found guilty is that he didn't really need to disclose it to the FBI - they already knew he was Hillary's boi because they all hung out together at the Perkins Coie office together (The Dems, FBI and Perkins Coie lawyers had a room at that law office to coordinate their witch hunts). 

 

Thanks for proving just how sucked in you are by MSM bullshit. 

When In Doubt.

When there is no argument left to make.

When there is no longer mean by there can a didactic exchange of information.

When there is logical, honest means to talk.

Bring Up HRC.  

Over 30-Years you people have been after her, and still you bitch, whine, moan and complain about because you ain't got nothing and you know you aint got nothing.

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14 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Contrary to your conspiracy theories the BLM protests weren’t planned and organized by the Biden campaign 

Never said they were, dumbass. The point was that if libs went out en masse to riot in the streets there, why would they suddenly become worried about spreading disease when going to Biden rallies?

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17 hours ago, traveler52 said:

When In Doubt.

When there is no argument left to make.

When there is no longer mean by there can a didactic exchange of information.

When there is logical, honest means to talk.

Bring Up HRC.  

Over 30-Years you people have been after her, and still you bitch, whine, moan and complain about because you ain't got nothing and you know you aint got nothing.

You should always be in doubt, and that post is a perfect example.

You have no clue what Beave and I were talking about so you're just off base to start with. 

1) I made an incomplete list of major news stories that the Dems/MSM lied about over the past 5 years or so and offered Beave the chance to pick one or more to try and refute. The HRC story that he decided to try and refute was one of about 15 things that he had to choose from. 

2) He utterly failed make the claim that the Dems/MSM weren't massive liars in that instance.

3) He utterly failed to make his case in all of his attempts. So my original post, and all of its accusations of Dem/MSM lies and bullshit, stands as completely unscathed, and therefor accurate. 

4) The whole world actually knows for a FACT that Hillary paid for disinformation that was sent to the FBI and the FISA court. It's impossible for you to not have been exposed to that information, you just choose to ignore it. That's who you are. You'd be better off to acknowledge your own ignorance internally than to keep on showing it off for whatever reason.

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20 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Did he finally stop pretending to be a conservative?

If MH is a conservative, I will eat my wife's panties with gravy on them. When a so called conservative attacks conservatives, like he does towards Trump, how does that make him a conservative? Conservatives needs to stick together. Trump is a conservative, and MH appears to hate conservatives. MH appears to be on the side of lefty liberalism than on the conservative side. Just saying. ?

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19 hours ago, CRABGRABBER said:

Never said they were, dumbass. The point was that if libs went out en masse to riot in the streets there, why would they suddenly become worried about spreading disease when going to Biden rallies?

The globalist elites like G. Soros was paying BLM and Antifa to go out and riot and loot in the streets and burn down buildings. If these communists were so serious and worried so much about Covid, then why would they be out there en masse trying to spread Covid in those streets? 

Covid was just another lie and hoax complements from our dear enemies the globalist big pharma elite from the very beginning. Covid worked out well for the globalist big pharma elite. The globalist big pharma elite decided as to when people should stay at home so as not to help spread Covid or when they can go out on the streets and cause chaos and mayhem and help spread Covid. Common sense and logic does not run the world anymore. But bullshit surely does. 

Biden rallies does not spread Covid. But Trump's rallies do. Go figure, eh? ?

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3 hours ago, taxme said:

Biden rallies does not spread Covid. But Trump's rallies do. Go figure, eh? ?

Much like "Unvaccinated scum can't travel to other countries because they might bring back covid, but the triple-vaxxed-turd can go to California and bring back covid and it's ok becaaaaauuuuzzzzze.......... it's different covid maybe? Like cuter, less racist covid that only kills cracka-ass mofos?"

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20 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Much like "Unvaccinated scum can't travel to other countries because they might bring back covid, but the triple-vaxxed-turd can go to California and bring back covid and it's ok becaaaaauuuuzzzzze.......... it's different covid maybe? Like cuter, less racist covid that only kills cracka-ass mofos?"

Getting Covid is always a good excuse for anyone in politics to go run and hide somewhere to try and get away from we the peasants where we will never be able to find the coward/s. it also gives them another excuse to add another few more days to their holidays. ?

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On 6/19/2022 at 2:44 PM, WestCanMan said:

That's all bullshit.

Brionna rented a car the year before that turned up with a dead body in the trunk. She was involved with her ex as a drug dealer. Packages for him were still arriving at her house. They did identify themselves as police, her boyfriend at the time - the guy that shot one of them to start the gunfight - admitted that he thought that it was her ex pretending to be a cop when they knocked and said they were police.

You don't know SFA after all this time because you're addicted to fake news sources, but don't let that stop you from running your mouth.

 The MSM gobbled up Smollett's story and made it national news, despite the fact that it was the dumbest story ever. He got to cry on national TV and make his stupid accusations. 

Uh-huh. The entire MSM ran with the story of Sandman being a smug, racist punk because he had his smiling face right above the drum of a First Nations man who was banging on it while singing. 

Turns out, Sandman was standing still while the guy walked up on him and beat the drum in his face. He was just a 17-yr-old kid attending a pro-life rally. Not a smug racist. 

Hillary's lawyer was still guilty of providing false evidence to the FBI (the Alfa Bank disinformation), he just didn't get charged with that. He was only charged with "failing to disclose to the FBI that he was working for Hillary when he brought them that disinformation."

The reason that he wasn't found guilty is that he didn't really need to disclose it to the FBI - they already knew he was Hillary's boi because they all hung out together at the Perkins Coie office together (The Dems, FBI and Perkins Coie lawyers had a room at that law office to coordinate their witch hunts). 

 

Thanks for proving just how sucked in you are by MSM bullshit. 

 So that’s why all charges against Breonnas boyfriend were dropped and Breonnas family received a $12M payout and the cop who killed her was fired and no evidence of criminal activity was found in her home?  Because she was a criminal?

You make it sound like Breonna had a dead body in her trunk.  Four years before she was killed by police, Breonna had rented a car for her then-boyfriend to use, and a friend of his was shot and killed while driving the car. Breonna wasn’t named as a suspect then or now because the cops knew that she wasn’t involved in the killing.
 

And the cops BLATANTLY LIED on the search warrant saying the US Mail confirmed suspicious packages had been delivered to her when in fact they had told police the exact opposite.   THERE WERE NO PACKAGES AT HER HOME YOU ARE GROSSLY MISINFORMED AGAIN  

 

The MSM didn’t “gobble up” Smollets story his fake claims were extensively reported on once there was reason to believe they were fake

 

I’ve still never heard of this Sandman person or the incident your talking about. Must be local news some random small time incident that tue right wing media is trying to blow out of proportion  

 

HILLARY CLINTON CONSPIRACYYYYYY AAAAH!  He didn’t provide “false information to the FBI about Alfa bank”.  He presented real data internet dats indicative of communication between Alfa computer servers and Trump Co computer servers,  the FBI found to be inconclusive evidence of any criminal wrongdoing although they could not explain the “unusual activity”. That’s not a crime, genius. If you call the cops because you hear screaming at your neighbour’s house and the cops check it and everyone is fine, that’s not a crime that you reported it. 

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On 6/19/2022 at 6:44 PM, CRABGRABBER said:

Never said they were, dumbass. The point was that if libs went out en masse to riot in the streets there, why would they suddenly become worried about spreading disease when going to Biden rallies?

Omg you are dense The Biden campaign did not an and hold rallies to begin with because they knew that would be highly irresponsible….what aren’t you understanding?

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On 6/19/2022 at 1:17 PM, Infidel Dog said:

Ahh...poor Beave. You put so much work into that all week I'm almost sorry I have to pop your bubble.

But I do. 

As to what Zuckerberg did being "perfectly and explicitly  legal"...not exactly.

It differs by state but in Wisconsin, for example a Wisconsin Elections Commission found it was not "technically illegal" in December however in February...

https://iotwreport.com/special-counsel-finds-zuckerbucks-violated-wisconsin-bribery-laws/

Now as to your Apples/Oranges comparison of Super Pacs to donations to 501c's.

Here's the story on Super Pacs:

https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/super-pacs/2020

The Zuckerbergs donated to nonprofit 501 c's. Here's the problem with donating to 501 c's when there's a political pretense:

https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/the-restriction-of-political-campaign-intervention-by-section-501c3-tax-exempt-organizations

The way the Zucks and their 501c's got around that was they didn't donate to a specific campaign. They donated under the pretense of only wanting to help the electoral process.

The Republican Super Pac donations you cite were made over time to support multiple specific targets. 

The Zuckerberg donations were a 1 time donation to corrupt the electoral process to work in favor of one candidate in a presidential election.

I'm not sure if you understand what the Zuckerbucks actually did.

Liz Wheeler explains:

 

Ahh...poor Fiddle. You put so much work into that all week I'm almost sorry I have to pop your bubble.

But I do. 
 

Claim:  Five Wisconsin cities received money for the 2020 election from Mark Zuckerberg, which amounted to "a wave of massive election bribery."
 

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Courts have repeatedly upheld grants Gableman says amount to 'massive election bribery'

IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT

  • The grant money went to more than 200 cities in Wisconsin, including many Republican ones, not just the five heavily Democratic ones mentioned.

  • What’s more, multiple lawsuits challenging the grants were filed, none of which were successful. In one case, a U.S. District judge appointed by President George W. Bush refused to block the grant money. 

  • An appeals court later held that those who brought the lawsuit failed to identify any laws that would prohibit the grants.


Michael Gableman, the former state Supreme Court justice overseeing a Republican-ordered, taxpayer-funded review of Wisconsin’s long-settled 2020 election, has made many factually-challenged statements...
 
 
 

POLITICS

Wisconsin judge calls some arguments “close to preposterous” over election grants funded from Facebook’s Zuckerberg
 

https://www.wizmnews.com/2022/05/18/wisconsin-judge-calls-some-arguments-close-to-preposterous-over-election-grants-funded-from-facebooks-zuckerberg/amp/
 

 

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2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

 So that’s why all charges against Breonnas boyfriend were dropped and Breonnas family received a $12M payout and the cop who killed her was fired and no evidence of criminal activity was found in her home?  Because she was a criminal?

The charges were dropped like a hot potato, mostly because Brionna was dead and the US was burning at the time.

One cop was fired, not for killing her, but for firing blindly into her apartment, and having his rounds go into someone else's apartment. 

The cops had a warrant to search her home because of her known involvement in criminal activity

Her ex-boyfriend was also caught on wiretaps from prison saying that she held his money and drugs sometimes. She was an actual criminal. It sucks to suck. 

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You make it sound like Breonna had a dead body in her trunk.  Four years before she was killed by police, Breonna had rented a car for her then-boyfriend to use, and a friend of his was shot and killed while driving the car. Breonna wasn’t named as a suspect then or now because the cops knew that she wasn’t involved in the killing.

By your own admission there was a dead body found in her rental car, and she was involved heavily with a known drug dealer. We also know that there was a search a warrant for her house, because of her known involvement with a drug dealer. 

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And the cops BLATANTLY LIED on the search warrant saying the US Mail confirmed suspicious packages had been delivered to her when in fact they had told police the exact opposite.   THERE WERE NO PACKAGES AT HER HOME YOU ARE GROSSLY MISINFORMED AGAIN  

Her boyfriend did have mail going to her house, he had just received a pkg from her home before she got shot. The fact that there wasn't a pkg there that day means nothing. 

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The MSM didn’t “gobble up” Smollets story his fake claims were extensively reported on once there was reason to believe they were fake

ABC news gave him a 16-minute interview where he got to cry and blame Trump supporters. 

The MSM completely pushed his fake narrative until he was 100% outed. 

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I’ve still never heard of this Sandman person or the incident your talking about. Must be local news some random small time incident that tue right wing media is trying to blow out of proportion  

Right. That's bullshit and you know it. It was all over the MSM for days.

There were lawsuits against 14 media outlets, some of them for over $200M. Outlets like CNN, WashPo, NYT, etc. It's impossible for you to not have heard of this story. You just want to forget it. 

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HILLARY CLINTON CONSPIRACYYYYYY AAAAH!  He didn’t provide “false information to the FBI about Alfa bank”.  He presented real data internet dats indicative of communication between Alfa computer servers and Trump Co computer servers,  the FBI found to be inconclusive evidence of any criminal wrongdoing although they could not explain the “unusual activity”. That’s not a crime, genius. If you call the cops because you hear screaming at your neighbour’s house and the cops check it and everyone is fine, that’s not a crime that you reported it. 

He did provide disinformation:

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FBI Special Agent Scott Hellman, last week, testified that the data revealing the alleged covert communications channel between Trump and Russia that Sussmann brought to the FBI turned out to be untrue, and said he did not agree with the narrative. 

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When Clinton allegedly approved this effort, at least some people connected to her campaign were aware that the Alfa Bank theory was never viewed as credible by researchers tasked with supporting it. Those researchers had warned that it would be easy to “poke several holes” in the claim, according to prosecutors, and that the data could be seen as “a red herring.” Yet, trial witnesses admitted that they hoped the media would make the claims stick.

Despite a record of Clinton associates pushing unfounded allegations to the FBI on both the Steele dossier and Alfa Bank, Mook and another witness, Clinton campaign general counsel Marc Elias, insisted they preferred to use the media for such efforts. The campaign found a conduit in one liberal magazine, for example, whose story was then cited as a “bombshell” report, as if the campaign had had nothing to do with it.

1)They have to say allegedly, but it's provenn that she was billed by Sussman for his efforts. 

2)NEVER viewed as credible

3) The last part is just a lark. The MSM actually knows when they're spreading Dem lies. They do it all the time. 

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Michael Gableman, the former state Supreme Court justice overseeing a Republican-ordered, taxpayer-funded review of Wisconsin’s long-settled 2020 election, has made many factually-challenged statements...
 
 
 

You Progs and your Phony "fact checkers" crack me up. Not just me. Watch Sky News having a good laugh at Snopes for doing pretty much the same thing your Politifact "fact checker" did.

They're mocking Snopes for finding the true story of Biden funding crack pipes to be a false claim based on the fact Biden wasn't only funding crack pipes.

Get it? He was funding crack pipes but he wasn't guilty of funding crack pipes because he was also funding other stuff.

Politifact does the same thing. They tell us Gableman's finding that Zuckerbucks were funding the election in the five largest Wisconsin counties to be false. Politifact is hoping you're dumb as a Snopes reader because they admit that's true before they call it false. They say it's false because although the central claim of Zuckerbucks pouring millions into the electoral process of the five largest Wisconsin cities is true it's false because they claim some Zuckerbucks also influenced the elections of other smaller Wisconsin counties.

Thanks for the yuks Beave.

Oh and thanks for the links. Here's some for you:

How Fact Checking Is Controlled and Faked

Invasion of the Fact-Checkers

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