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So, can anyone tell me here as to why, me as a Canadian, has to fill out an ArriveCanada App. on my cell phone and give a time and date to this Marxist government as to what time and date I plan on leaving Canada, and then what time and date that I will be returning back to Canada? What kind of bull crap is this? Why or what bloody business is it of my government asking me to fill out some arrival and departure app. in order to let this Marxist government in Ottawa know my travel plans of departure and arrival from Canada? 

This to me smacks of communism where I now have to let this Marxist government in Ottawa know as to when I plan on leaving Canada and when I plan to return back to Canada. I have tried to figure out as to the reason for this, and I cannot come up with an idea as to why or what there is this app in place for me to have to fill out in order for me to travel outside of Canada.  Again, can anyone here give me an explanation for this? i await for anyone here who can answer this question for me. Thanks. ?

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Every Canadian has a Charter right to leave their country and return to their country.  Only the items they bring into the country can be denied, not they themselves.

If you had no luggage, as far as I know as long as you prove your identity and citizenship status (via your passport or whatnot) you don't have to answer any questions from Canadian border officials because of these rights.  Just like you don't have to answer any questions from cops.

During the pandemic i could see the questions on this app being necessary but at this point I think we're good, and no need of it from mid-May until the fall when COVID cases are so low.

For the Liberal Party, for some reason the Charter is so often inconvenient to them, they clearly either don't understand it or don't respect it.  They definitely have little respect for the privacy of Canadians.

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13 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

For the Liberal Party, for some reason the Charter is so often inconvenient to them, they clearly either don't understand it or don't respect it. 

It's not ideological though. Any government that has run free with not checks, feedback or accountability; and hard stops when needed will come to that idea eventually. Like why bother if it isn't strictly necessary?

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13 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Every Canadian has a Charter right to leave their country and return to their country.  Only the items they bring into the country can be denied, not they themselves.

If you had no luggage, as far as I know as long as you prove your identity and citizenship status (via your passport or whatnot) you don't have to answer any questions from Canadian border officials because of these rights.  Just like you don't have to answer any questions from cops.

During the pandemic i could see the questions on this app being necessary but at this point I think we're good, and no need of it from mid-May until the fall when COVID cases are so low.

For the Liberal Party, for some reason the Charter is so often inconvenient to them, they clearly either don't understand it or don't respect it.  They definitely have little respect for the privacy of Canadians.

You can’t be denied entry to Canada as a Canadian, but you can be fined thousands of dollars for breaking public health dictates.  This government is trying to throw as many restrictions on Canadians as possible to maximize their control.  It’s always about looking compliant to world public health and climate planning for the Trudeau dictatorship.

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17 hours ago, taxme said:

So, can anyone tell me here as to why, me as a Canadian, has to fill out an ArriveCanada App. on my cell phone and give a time and date to this Marxist government as to what time and date I plan on leaving Canada, and then what time and date that I will be returning back to Canada? What kind of bull crap is this? Why or what bloody business is it of my government asking me to fill out some arrival and departure app. in order to let this Marxist government in Ottawa know my travel plans of departure and arrival from Canada? 

This to me smacks of communism where I now have to let this Marxist government in Ottawa know as to when I plan on leaving Canada and when I plan to return back to Canada. I have tried to figure out as to the reason for this, and I cannot come up with an idea as to why or what there is this app in place for me to have to fill out in order for me to travel outside of Canada.  Again, can anyone here give me an explanation for this? i await for anyone here who can answer this question for me. Thanks. ?

I can imagine you being pissed at having to fill out those paper immigration forms you get on return flights too eh? 

You don't have to fill it out when leaving. You have to fill it out upon return. 

Many countries have similar pre-screening. The sun destination I recently went to actually forced me to purchase a COVID insurance policy. 

The App is much better than having to show your Vaccine forms when doing Customs and Immigration. 

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13 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Every Canadian has a Charter right to leave their country and return to their country.  Only the items they bring into the country can be denied, not they themselves.

If you had no luggage, as far as I know as long as you prove your identity and citizenship status (via your passport or whatnot) you don't have to answer any questions from Canadian border officials because of these rights.  Just like you don't have to answer any questions from cops.

During the pandemic i could see the questions on this app being necessary but at this point I think we're good, and no need of it from mid-May until the fall when COVID cases are so low.

For the Liberal Party, for some reason the Charter is so often inconvenient to them, they clearly either don't understand it or don't respect it.  They definitely have little respect for the privacy of Canadians.

You can return. You'll just be asked to quarantine. 

I do agree it's about time we do away with all this, you can catch COVID with or without the vaccine. 

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3 hours ago, Boges said:

I can imagine you being pissed at having to fill out those paper immigration forms you get on return flights too eh? 

You don't have to fill it out when leaving. You have to fill it out upon return. 

Many countries have similar pre-screening. The sun destination I recently went to actually forced me to purchase a COVID insurance policy. 

The App is much better than having to show your Vaccine forms when doing Customs and Immigration. 

I am Canadian, and why do I have to tell the Marxist government in Ottawa as to when I am leaving Canada, and when I am planning on returning back to Canada. If you cannot see the communism in this, then you have to be pretty bloody stunned. I have the vaccine required information on my phone, and that should have been enough to show and for them to scan if they wanted too. ? 

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16 hours ago, taxme said:

I am Canadian, and why do I have to tell the Marxist government in Ottawa as to when I am leaving Canada, and when I am planning on returning back to Canada. If you cannot see the communism in this, then you have to be pretty bloody stunned. I have the vaccine required information on my phone, and that should have been enough to show and for them to scan if they wanted too. ? 

It's pre-screening. It happens all the time. Ei those forms you fill out on the way home. 

Showing all your vax papers could even further delay entry which is currently a problem seen now at airports due to staffing issues at security checkpoints. 

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3 hours ago, Boges said:

It's pre-screening. It happens all the time. Ei those forms you fill out on the way home. 

Showing all your vax papers could even further delay entry which is currently a problem seen now at airports due to staffing issues at security checkpoints. 

Total waste of people’s time and money. Stupid, needless bureaucracy.  Communist as hell.  

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1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

Total waste of people’s time and money. Stupid, needless bureaucracy.  Communist as hell.  

All the checks you go through to get a Canadian passport - that should be enough, and it was enough up til now.

The ArriveCan app is apparently super glitchy, too.

That seems to be part of the issue with airport wait times.

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5 hours ago, Boges said:

It's pre-screening. It happens all the time. Ei those forms you fill out on the way home. 

Showing all your vax papers could even further delay entry which is currently a problem seen now at airports due to staffing issues at security checkpoints. 

You just do not get it at all, do you? Filling out EI forms, and filling out an ArriveCan app are two different things. One is for people who are trying to get money from the government, and the other is for denying my right to go freely about my business and travels without having to fill out any communist like bull chit app. It's none of the governments gawd dam business for them to know as to when I am leaving Canada, and when I am planning on coming back to Canada. 

You must be one of those pinko Tories alright because you sure do talk like so many of those lefty liberal and socialists zombies out there. You appear to want more government and not less government.  ?

PS: I have a friend who just recently drove his car across the land border into America, and was never asked by the American border guard to show his vaccine status. They can do the same thing here coming into Canada. If they want to, they can do alternating checks on people. No one is going to risk trying to cross any border unless they are fully vaccinated. It will trouble time for them. Just saying.  

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25 minutes ago, Goddess said:

All the checks you go through to get a Canadian passport - that should be enough, and it was enough up til now.

The ArriveCan app is apparently super glitchy, too.

That seems to be part of the issue with airport wait times.

Oh, how I long for the good old days, just like they were just two years ago, before this covid bull shit came along. ?

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3 hours ago, Goddess said:

All the checks you go through to get a Canadian passport - that should be enough, and it was enough up til now.

The ArriveCan app is apparently super glitchy, too.

That seems to be part of the issue with airport wait times.

They don’t really want people travelling and Canadians are brainwashed enough by pandemic fear porn to apply for passports to go to the toilet.  Inefficient, stupid policy brought by a government of nanny state control freaks.  

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The worst government in Canadian history.   They make vaccinated people quarantine for 14 days for not downloading the “ArriveCan App” that many elderly people struggle to use.  No cell phone, no international travel for Canadians.  Trudeau’s government is a totalitarian regime!  

https://apple.news/AuSDw7ypBSnyKmztqxwCc2Q

https://apple.news/AWqTJ8XYsQlOI50OAbfE1XQ

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On 6/2/2022 at 12:37 PM, Boges said:

I can imagine you being pissed at having to fill out those paper immigration forms you get on return flights too eh? 

You don't have to fill it out when leaving. You have to fill it out upon return. 

Many countries have similar pre-screening. The sun destination I recently went to actually forced me to purchase a COVID insurance policy. 

The App is much better than having to show your Vaccine forms when doing Customs and Immigration. 

The forms you fill out on your way back into the country is for the things you're importing into the country with you.  You don't have unlimited rights to import goods into the country. However,  you are free to leave and return to the country as you please and the government can't stop you.  It's in the Charter. 

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On 6/5/2022 at 9:07 AM, Zeitgeist said:

The worst government in Canadian history.   They make vaccinated people quarantine for 14 days for not downloading the “ArriveCan App” that many elderly people struggle to use.  No cell phone, no international travel for Canadians.  Trudeau’s government is a totalitarian regime!  

https://apple.news/AuSDw7ypBSnyKmztqxwCc2Q

https://apple.news/AWqTJ8XYsQlOI50OAbfE1XQ

When the federal government in Marxist Ottawa can freeze people's bank accounts, or deny people the right to fly on an airplane or take a train if they are not fully vaccinated is a crime in itself and a crime against humanity. Imagine someone having a sick family member whom they would want to go visit before they die, that lived thousands of miles away from them, but they cannot visit them because they are not vaccinated, is sickening for any government to be doing to it's citizen's. But yet, we have a Marxist government in Ottawa that could careless about those people and their sick loved ones. What is going on in Canada today is truly terrifying.

Anyone who refuses to see that Canada is becoming more like a communist country by the day has to be bloody f'n stupid. And yet there are still fools and idiots out there that still stand with the dictator in Ottawa and will go along with everything that pos says or does. These fools are mentally ill, to say the least.    

I am starting to get a bit concerned about this digital ID that this dictator in Ottawa is going to propose come the fall. If passed by the government in Ottawa  I am concerned that this will eventually lead to digital currency. Now that is something that we should all be concerned about. If we lose the ability to be able to use cash to buy anything we will have lost one of our basic freedoms.

Nobody will be able to buy or sell anything if they cannot use cash anymore. They will only be able to use digital currency for their transactions where the government and the WEF globalist banksters and big tech can now track your every expenditures. And if they do not like where or how or to whom you are dealing with they can freeze your bank account without notice. The dictator in Ottawa already showed us all that this can be done. This may have been a test run by the globalist elite to see what kind of reaction that they will get from Canadians. Hey, we never know, eh?  

We may very well start to see a social credit system put in place very soon in Canada like they have in communist China. If someone pisses off the government, well the shit will hit the fan for you. I just hope that people are smart enough to not go for this tyranny like communist control of their money and their lives. if they do, then they are f'n stupid. ?

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11 minutes ago, taxme said:

When the federal government in Marxist Ottawa can freeze people's bank accounts, or deny people the right to fly on an airplane or take a train if they are not fully vaccinated is a crime in itself and a crime against humanity. Imagine someone having a sick family member whom they would want to go visit before they die, that lived thousands of miles away from them, but they cannot visit them because they are not vaccinated, is sickening for any government to be doing to it's citizen's. But yet, we have a Marxist government in Ottawa that could careless about those people and their sick loved ones. What is going on in Canada today is truly terrifying.

Anyone who refuses to see that Canada is becoming more like a communist country by the day has to be bloody f'n stupid. And yet there are still fools and idiots out there that still stand with the dictator in Ottawa and will go along with everything that pos says or does. These fools are mentally ill, to say the least.    

I am starting to get a bit concerned about this digital ID that this dictator in Ottawa is going to propose come the fall. If passed by the government in Ottawa  I am concerned that this will eventually lead to digital currency. Now that is something that we should all be concerned about. If we lose the ability to be able to use cash to buy anything we will have lost one of our basic freedoms.

Nobody will be able to buy or sell anything if they cannot use cash anymore. They will only be able to use digital currency for their transactions where the government and the WEF globalist banksters and big tech can now track your every expenditures. And if they do not like where or how or to whom you are dealing with they can freeze your bank account without notice. The dictator in Ottawa already showed us all that this can be done. This may have been a test run by the globalist elite to see what kind of reaction that they will get from Canadians. Hey, we never know, eh?  

We may very well start to see a social credit system put in place very soon in Canada like they have in communist China. If someone pisses off the government, well the shit will hit the fan for you. I just hope that people are smart enough to not go for this tyranny like communist control of their money and their lives. if they do, then they are f'n stupid. ?

A digital ID is an attempt at a Chinese-style social credit system.  This is sinister stuff.  At least when the Soviets asked for your papers they couldn’t prevent you from getting a license or prevent you from buying certain goods or shut down your bank account.  Anyone who supports digital ID is basically embracing the end of freedom.

I’d try to get out of Canada as soon as possible if this is implemented.

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13 minutes ago, Aristides said:

What digital ID? 

The first shot and it worked perfectly. Now they know that it's not if, it will happen under Quarantine emergency, War emergency or any other emergency but when and how to wrap it, in what. Nothing to stop and check it: just none. The majority caucus will applaud and courts look the other way. Don't say it cannot happen here because it has.

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14 minutes ago, myata said:

The first shot and it worked perfectly. Now they know that it's not if, it will happen under Quarantine emergency, War emergency or any other emergency but when and how to wrap it, in what. Nothing to stop and check it: just none. The majority caucus will applaud and courts look the other way. Don't say it cannot happen here because it has.

What first shot? Do you have a passport, drivers licence, credit card? If you don't think you have a digital ID you better stop whatever it is you are smoking. 

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2 hours ago, Aristides said:

What first shot? Do you have a passport, drivers licence, credit card? If you don't think you have a digital ID you better stop whatever it is you are smoking. 

Don’t pretend not to know what’s being discussed just so you can bait someone into telling you something you can shred.  It’s disingenuous.

The gullible sheep on here are like programmed bots who support all government policies no matter how absurd or undemocratic.

This government doesn’t seem to care at all about rights, inconvenience, or cost.  Canadians are just tax donations to causes that most Canadians don’t support or even consider.  People are too battered down and tired to think.  What odd, sad times.  

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