cj8 Posted May 25, 2022 Report Share Posted May 25, 2022 The banking debt system is a complete scam. They just push a button and for some reason you owe them the loan + interest. If you try the same scam you go to jail. Only new loans can pay for old loans + interest. The system must collapse sooner or later. Now debt is so high central banks need to print money to pay for older loans. When they stop printing everything collapse. If they continue printing there of course will be higher and higher inflation and then a currency collapse etc. And when the economy crash and people lose their income they revolt. Unless they are very sick and depend on the government and Big Pharmas injections. Their "solution" to remain in control over humanity is a great reset with massive surveillance and far less people. But it´s hard to sell unless they can blame someone else for the economic collapse. Like Putin or a virus. The money masters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpTB11XwiZY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted May 25, 2022 Report Share Posted May 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, cj8 said: The banking debt system is a complete scam. They just push a button and for some reason you owe them the loan + interest. If you try the same scam you go to jail. Only new loans can pay for old loans + interest. The system must collapse sooner or later. Now debt is so high central banks need to print money to pay for older loans. When they stop printing everything collapse. If they continue printing there of course will be higher and higher inflation and then a currency collapse etc. And when the economy crash and people lose their income they revolt. Unless they are very sick and depend on the government and Big Pharmas injections. Their "solution" to remain in control over humanity is a great reset with massive surveillance and far less people. But it´s hard to sell unless they can blame someone else for the economic collapse. Like Putin or a virus. The money masters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpTB11XwiZY Well much as no one wants to be accused of being a paranoid conspiracy theorist nut job, there’s a very compelling theory that we should all consider as world events unfold to ensure that the theory remains just that. If people are crushed by debt and can’t afford the basic necessities, government is ripe to provide the “solution”, which is to essentially make the vast majority of people dependent on the state for food, housing, and the necessities of life. High inflation, carbon taxes, debt, restrictions, the use of heavy measures against protests, and public health passes are setting quite perfect conditions for such a scenario. In such a crisis the government holds all the cards, limiting freedoms to those who obey government health and safety measures. Most people will comply if it’s the choice between starvation and food or between virtual imprisonment and limited government-selected freedoms. The pandemic illustrated what governments can get away with during a perceived crisis. We should be very protective of our constitutional freedoms and private property. It’s very hard to have one without the other. “You will have nothing and be happy” sounds more like an order than a statement. Beware of shifting towards any kind of “Great Reset” to head off a “crisis.” Beware of the influence of unelected bodies and any justifications to suspend rights. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj8 Posted May 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) Michael Burry who predicted the 2008 financial crisis is warning. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/rabobank-michael-burry-warns-economy-looks-house-cards-and-he-right Edited May 25, 2022 by cj8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted May 25, 2022 Report Share Posted May 25, 2022 The "Petro-Dollar" is being challenged. Should it become useless and oil traded with any currency, the financial table will be levelled, but the USA will suffer huge losses. Yessiree Bob...the fiat currency system is failing. So what's left to maintain wealth? Land, Gold and other precious metals, some commodities. I collect land and silver, myself. One of my kids is into the crypto markets. I still think if the fiat currency goes...so will the crypto but...many disagree with me. Over the last decade, and these last 3 years in particular, we've seen the utter failure of the vaunted institutions we've all placed so much trust in. The news media is a joke. The governmental bodies are a joke. We've gutted the police and the legal system. Our education system is under attack and our own kids are paying the price. If you have the means...my advice it to purchase at least 20 acres of land, build a modest home and begin leaning to sustain yourselves. Should the worst case scenario happen...you'll survive it. Should it not...you'll be even more wealthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 25, 2022 Report Share Posted May 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Nationalist said: 1. I collect land and silver, myself. One of my kids is into the crypto markets. 2. Over the last decade, and these last 3 years in particular, we've seen the utter failure of the vaunted institutions we've all placed so much trust in. 3. The news media is a joke. The governmental bodies are a joke. We've gutted the police and the legal system. Our education system is under attack and our own kids are paying the price. 4. If you have the means...my advice it to purchase at least 20 acres of land, build a modest home and begin leaning to sustain yourselves. Should the worst case scenario happen...you'll survive it. Should it not...you'll be even more wealthy. 1. Land, precious metals and crypto are all bubbles also 2. Has any institution failed as bad as the Luna currency ? 3. Hysterical ravings, and echoes from the FOX "old man" litany ... ie. "Back in my day they would beat you until you could do math" 4. Back to the land... yep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj8 Posted May 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2022 Would cooperation between the largest nations be a solution? For cancelling debt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted May 25, 2022 Report Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: Beware of the influence of unelected bodies and any justifications to suspend rights. Add to that blissful slumber of citizens interest and widespread complacency and even if it was only a remote theory, what would happen if someone thought of trying it? There are precedents and what if it worked? Like why wouldn't it? What's there to stop it? Edited May 25, 2022 by myata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted May 25, 2022 Report Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) Most of the time before the pandemic I didn’t get too wrapped up in government stuff because you could mostly come and go as you please and make your own luck. These past two plus years violated that autonomy. Polievre was exactly right to say people want their lives back. Sadly it seems that narratives are at play that make this hard to do. I’d like to think we had to have mandates and a high cost of living because of forces beyond human control, but I don’t believe that. Much of our hardship now results from top-down mismanagement or manipulation, I think, which is all the more reason to reduce the size, power, and control of government. People have gotten used to having decisions made for them and being told how to think. It’s really unhealthy. Edited May 25, 2022 by Zeitgeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted May 25, 2022 Report Share Posted May 25, 2022 Well see now I get how we managed to have a two-century old decorated democratic post-colonial system and never thought of a) looking at it more closely and b) updating it. Like I still don't get rationally, in my brain. But I can see it. So it's been two months since pandemic restrictions were lifted in the province (April 1 I think). Folks in the local store still obediently line up in a single line to several cashiers. Employees stopped telling them it's no longer necessary. I try to gently remind every time, with little effect. See, people liked the restrictions! It's so much easier when someone is thinking for you and just telling you what to do, what to put on, where to go or not to and so on. It's exactly how it happened last time and the one before that and so on, forever. Now tell me it all is the fault of the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted May 26, 2022 Report Share Posted May 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Land, precious metals and crypto are all bubbles also 2. Has any institution failed as bad as the Luna currency ? 3. Hysterical ravings, and echoes from the FOX "old man" litany ... ie. "Back in my day they would beat you until you could do math" 4. Back to the land... yep Land gold and silver are bubbles? Man...that's some bubble. Thousands of years old. Luna flopped. Never had any. Lol...back in my day, we knew what gender Jim and Sally were. But seriously folks...common sense is rather eternal. No matter how much one might try to deny it. Yes...back to land. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj8 Posted May 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2022 (edited) To be clear free markets is not the problem. The problem is that bankers do not follow free markets and capitalism. They are to big to fail. If they fail tax payers must bail them out. Socialism for the super rich and capitalism for the poor. This video is about the financial weapons of mass destruction. Some believe this bankers casino to be around 20 times the global economy. And insane number. And mostly unregulated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtEnuURdmlQ Edited May 26, 2022 by cj8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj8 Posted May 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 Interview with Danielle. Former advisor to FED. "Possible end of the 40-year bull in debt, if so a “global depression” threat" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwS824WRflI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 A great article today from Rex Murphy on the total abandonment of the working classes by our elite government ideologues in their fight for climate purity — much like the fight for public health purity and Covid Zero: https://apple.news/AVNrP2_uVQUKGpR8D6WlV1Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: A great article today from Rex Murphy on the total abandonment of the working classes by our elite government Any time an arch faux Marxist shill like Rex Murphy uses the term 'working classes', the thinking brain becomes very suspicious. Why here's his little newspaper group calling for more TFWs and NOT RAISING the minimum wage.. But Rex will tell ya... That CARBON TAX is how the MAN KEEPS YOU DOWN ? https://nationalpost.com/opinion/national-post-view-raising-minimum-wage-isnt-the-solution https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://financialpost.com/opinion/temporary-foreign-workers-canada-expansion&ved=2ahUKEwju8oDiroL4AhUCCs0KHaGoDtMQFnoECAkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0ZNfyCUbwypGd2DXDJTn1r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/25/2022 at 12:28 PM, cj8 said: Michael Burry who predicted the 2008 financial crisis is warning. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/rabobank-michael-burry-warns-economy-looks-house-cards-and-he-right ZeroHedge is a Russian propoganda organ. No credibility 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 One of the great sages of the economy was asked what the markets will do. He replied "The markets will fluctuate." Anyone can predict a coming boom in the economy or a recession. That is because there will always be highs and lows. But predicting a downturn will make you more money because everyone loves a good recession story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/25/2022 at 11:01 PM, cj8 said: To be clear free markets is not the problem. The problem is that bankers do not follow free markets and capitalism. They are to big to fail. If they fail tax payers must bail them out. Socialism for the super rich and capitalism for the poor. This video is about the financial weapons of mass destruction. Some believe this bankers casino to be around 20 times the global economy. And insane number. And mostly unregulated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtEnuURdmlQ Has any one of the big Canadian banks failed? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/25/2022 at 10:35 AM, cj8 said: Their "solution" to remain in control over humanity is a great reset with massive surveillance and far less people. How do you maintain law and order without a certain amount of control over humanity. Danny Finkleman pointed out that people will trade a certain amount of freedom for the security to be able to go out for a walk at night. There is a theory that Canadians have too much freedom and therefore too much crime. (the Queenmandy theory of Criminology). Crime is not deterred by the potential sentence. It is the odds of getting caught. When a person is comitting a crime, the possible sentence does not enter their mind. It is only the potential for getting caught. A common intellectual deficiency in career criminals is the inability to forsee the ramifications of their actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 War and covid do not necessarily signal a financial collapse. We came through the Great War with the (Kansas) swine flu on it's heels and then charge headlong into the roaring twenties. On top of all that, Germany endured ultimate inflation and still recovered. Of course, if Russia invades a NATO country, all bets are off, but that war will only last about 14 hours. Then we can all gather in the great feasting hall of Valhalla and drink and tell wonderful tales of our deeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 32 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: Crime is not deterred by the potential sentence. It is the odds of getting caught. When a person is comitting a crime, the possible sentence does not enter their mind. It is only the potential for getting caught. A common intellectual deficiency in career criminals is the inability to forsee the ramifications of their actions. It used to be that way but not anymore. Getting caught has few consequences other than conditions that when breached are just followed by other conditions. Our snails pace legal system boots any real consequences years down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Any time an arch faux Marxist shill like Rex Murphy uses the term 'working classes', the thinking brain becomes very suspicious. Why here's his little newspaper group calling for more TFWs and NOT RAISING the minimum wage.. But Rex will tell ya... That CARBON TAX is how the MAN KEEPS YOU DOWN ? https://nationalpost.com/opinion/national-post-view-raising-minimum-wage-isnt-the-solution https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://financialpost.com/opinion/temporary-foreign-workers-canada-expansion&ved=2ahUKEwju8oDiroL4AhUCCs0KHaGoDtMQFnoECAkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0ZNfyCUbwypGd2DXDJTn1r Well many of the Marxists who were in it for the right reason, improving living standards for workers, have abandoned the NDP and Liberals who will say anything to get elected and preserve themselves. Workers need low living costs and more opportunities to advance. Economic policy must foster job opportunities and buying power. Conservatives are clearly the winners in those areas now that we see the costs of high taxes, inflationary spending, and over-regulation. Immigrant doctors can’t get certification. Young families can’t buy homes. Elderly can’t afford home heating. Carbon taxes are ruining truckers, farmers, and people who have to commute long distances because they can’t afford homes near or in cities. The champagne socialists must go!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 38 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: How do you maintain law and order without a certain amount of control over humanity. Danny Finkleman pointed out that people will trade a certain amount of freedom for the security to be able to go out for a walk at night. There is a theory that Canadians have too much freedom and therefore too much crime. (the Queenmandy theory of Criminology). Crime is not deterred by the potential sentence. It is the odds of getting caught. When a person is comitting a crime, the possible sentence does not enter their mind. It is only the potential for getting caught. A common intellectual deficiency in career criminals is the inability to forsee the ramifications of their actions. Most of our rise in crime relates to economic hardship and disparity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Most of our rise in crime relates to economic hardship and disparity. Petty crime and theft but most serious crime relates to drugs. Even most theft relates to drugs. Edited May 28, 2022 by Aristides 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, Aristides said: Petty crime and theft but most serious crime relates to drugs. Even most theft relates to drugs. Blame the Liberals for that, as police have stopped laying charges for drug use in our major cities. We could have a whole discussion on the horrifying losses of life connected to opioid use. Anti-depressants are also coming under scrutiny for causing psychosis, a focus right now following the Buffalo and Texas mass shootings. I wonder if any of this has to do with locking people down, taking away their communities, and prescribing drugs over the phone or Zoom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 28, 2022 Report Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said: 1. Conservatives are clearly the winners in those areas now that we see the costs of high taxes, inflationary spending, and over-regulation. 2. The champagne socialists must go!!! 1. 2. We don't have socialists, we have basically the same economic approach from the two main parties. My point is that Rex Murphy us a clown ? for evoking Marxist tropes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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