Great American Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 What is a Real American And I don’t mean what is a “Legal” American, I mean what is a Real American? What is it in the heart of a person that makes them a Real American, a Patriot? Well, a real American IS a patriot. He would gladly serve his country in time of war. He would come to the aid of a neighbor. He knows America is an exceptional nation. In his heart he loves Liberty, Freedom; he appreciates entrepreneurship, he has the drive to make his way in life without a net and rise or fall on your own efforts like the pioneers did, and he knows that God endowed him with the right to Life, Liberty, and to pursue happiness That is a real American. Would you call some America-hating socialist Democrat a real American? . . someone who does not want to work and wants to live off of welfare? . . someone who despises America and hates our history and our traditions and our values and embraces evil ideologies? Is that a “Real American” just because they were born here? Some people say they are real American too because they were born here. I say those people are tools. Such sick anti-American haters may be legally American if they were born here but they are not REAL Americans in their hearts. They are not Patriots. Is this all too hard for a person to understand? If it is them maybe that person not a real American. Have you heard people talk about fake Christians? Sadly there are people who call themselves Christians, and maybe they even go to church once in a while, but they do not have Christ in their heart. The lie and hate and do bad things. We all know they are out there. We see them all the time. Simply calling yourself a Christian and going to church every Easter does not make you one. Most people understand that, right? Why should it be any different for being an American? . . a Patriot? Any fool can be born here. But when you are an adult, do you realize what a wonderful exceptional country American is and are you a patriot? Or are you a blood-sucking socialist crapstain Democrat who enjoys the fruits of the land but hates the nation? If you are the latter then you are no American, born here or not. Some people cannot grasp these concepts. Thats too bad for them, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) Loves America and the constitution (at least 95% of it?) Edited May 21, 2022 by Moonlight Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 22, 2022 Report Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) my only fealty is to the Declaration of Independence preamble We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. but said fealty is absolute, unto death as necessary sic semper tyrannis Edited May 22, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted May 22, 2022 Report Share Posted May 22, 2022 I disagree that someone has to be ready to fight for their country to be considered a real American, it's a complex society with a lot of vital roles to be played by a lot of people with entirely different skill sets. For example, a nerd might twiddle away at a desk for a few years and come up with a system for a cruise missile which gives the US a huge advantage over their enemies. He wouldn't be risking his life but he'd accomplish far more than any one man on a battlefield ever could. I think that anyone who contributes to the greater good of the US in whatever way they can is a real patriot, but I think that in a lot of cases they may be misguided and do more harm than good. I'm not saying that someone could be as self-serving/off-base as AOC, Pelosi or the Bidens are and still be considered a patriot, but for sure there would be some Dems who think they're serving their country, even though they're doing the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 22, 2022 Report Share Posted May 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I disagree that someone has to be ready to fight for their country to be considered a real American, it's a complex society with a lot of vital roles to be played by a lot of people with entirely different skill sets. Well Regulated Militia every American must be a Rifleman first no matter what your skill set, in the end, an American patriot is a revolutionary warfighter that is the American religion you don't even have to hold an American passport to defend & uphold it many foreign nationals have died for American freedom too can't kill an idea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 22, 2022 Report Share Posted May 22, 2022 the schism in America is not that Americans refuse to fight many Americans simply refuse to fight in a foreign war but I have never actually met an American who said they would not fight for hearth & home should the war come to Americas shores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 7 hours ago, Dougie93 said: the schism in America is not that Americans refuse to fight many Americans simply refuse to fight in a foreign war but I have never actually met an American who said they would not fight for hearth & home should the war come to Americas shores In the meantime it appears about half of America believes the Red Dawn has taken over the nation. How was that possible without anyone having to fire a single shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 9 hours ago, eyeball said: In the meantime it appears about half of America believes the Red Dawn has taken over the nation. How was that possible without anyone having to fire a single shot? Rudolf Dutschke coined it The March Through The Institutions the radical left of 1968 found that the working classes would not rise up in socialist revolution so the left abandoned the working classes instead the left would seize control by infiltrating the institutions starting with universities, particularly the faculties of education the left would impose a Communist revolution upon the masses from the top down now the uttter failure of this Academic elite is inciting a right wing counterrevolution and thus the left will burn in this fire of their own making, opening phases of in progress now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: instead the left would seize control by infiltrating the institutions starting with universities, particularly the faculties of education the left would impose a Communist revolution upon the masses from the top down now the uttter failure of this Academic elite is inciting a right wing counterrevolution This cracked version of recent American politics conveniently ignores Goldwater and the Reagan and Bush years. Such a flimsy attempt to constantly a bogeyman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: This cracked version of recent American politics conveniently ignores Goldwater and the Reagan and Bush years. Such a flimsy attempt to constantly a bogeyman. says an ideological leftist from Toronto Canada as if you had any say in the matter /shrugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 Anyone slightly to the left of Atilla the Hun is a Marxist according to you lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 On 5/23/2022 at 11:28 AM, Dougie93 said: says an ideological leftist from Toronto Canada as if you had any say in the matter /shrugs Nice takedown of my points... By criticizing where I live... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Nice takedown of my points... By criticizing where I live... I'm more Toronto than you are Glenn Gould's Toronto the Good is where I grew up before you were born I bet Edited May 25, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Salyers Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 5:36 PM, WestCanMan said: I disagree that someone has to be ready to fight for their country to be considered a real American, it's a complex society with a lot of vital roles to be played by a lot of people with entirely different skill sets. For example, a nerd might twiddle away at a desk for a few years and come up with a system for a cruise missile which gives the US a huge advantage over their enemies. He wouldn't be risking his life but he'd accomplish far more than any one man on a battlefield ever could. I think that anyone who contributes to the greater good of the US in whatever way they can is a real patriot, but I think that in a lot of cases they may be misguided and do more harm than good. I'm not saying that someone could be as self-serving/off-base as AOC, Pelosi or the Bidens are and still be considered a patriot, but for sure there would be some Dems who think they're serving their country, even though they're doing the opposite. I am 64 years old and have congestive heart failure am a diabetic and have other medical issues . I am a gun guy and a reloader . I would pick up one of my guns to defend American soil if needed . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, Robert Salyers said: I am 64 years old and have congestive heart failure am a diabetic and have other medical issues . I am a gun guy and a reloader . I would pick up one of my guns to defend American soil if needed . I was in the military from '87-90 so I obviously would have fought back then. I'm 54 now and I'd still fight for my country . But if I had my choice, I'd rather die in a war at 54 than 18. I've lived for 18 years 3 times now: from 0-18, 18-36, and 36-54. I think that every 18 years it becomes less and less of a tragedy, for me personally, if I die. My son just turns 13 this year, I gotta stick it out a while longer for him, but in any event, dying at 54 is way better than dying at 18 imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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