Another Mass Shooting

[Aristides]

It's amazing how many so called pro lifers are willing to put up with the indiscriminate killing of US Citizens while doing nothing about it.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

FBI Director Wray stated very clearly that white supremacy is the biggest terrorist threat in the country. He said white supremacy is a 'persistent, evolving threat' and the 'biggest chunk' of racially motivated violent extremism in the U.S."

That's old. Thanks for backing up my statement though.

Wray said that years ago and in all that time there were examples of black racists everywhere but nothing for the FBI to hang their hat on aside from a guy at a PTA meeting who was taken outside by police - he was mad because his daughter was ass-raped in her HS bathroom by a guy who had previously raped another girl in a different high school's bathroom. 

So anyways, leftists finally got a white supremacist terrorist attack and you're making it into a gun control issue now? 

That's weird because I never saw a leftist downgrade a tragedy before when they had the chance to use it for their political gain. 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

It's amazing how many so called pro lifers are willing to put up with the indiscriminate killing of US Citizens while doing nothing about it.

That's just stupidity.

You know that conservatives are in favour of tougher gun laws for criminals. It's leftist politicians who downgrade serious violent crimes to misdemeanours or decide not to even prosecute.

In LA you can rob a store with a handgun now and as long as you don't shoot it at anyone it's just a misdemeanour. 

The guy who ran over all those people at the Christmas parade had just used a vehicle as a weapon a week earlier and was out on $1000 bail. 

Leftists all over the place scream "racism" about 'stop & frisk', but stop and frisk works, and the thousands of people that it saved in NYC were mostly black. It seems like getting rid of it was the actual racist policy.

It's only leftists that say "LOOTING STORES IS REPARATIONS!"

You're way out to lunch on this topic dude. Leftists shouldn't even talk about crime. It's like getting a lecture about pedophilia from a leftist. ?

[West]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

That's old. Thanks for backing up my statement though.

Wray said that years ago and in all that time there were examples of black racists everywhere but nothing for the FBI to hang their hat on aside from a guy at a PTA meeting who was taken outside by police - he was mad because his daughter was ass-raped in her HS bathroom by a guy who had previously raped another girl in a different high school's bathroom. 

So anyways, leftists finally got a white supremacist terrorist attack and you're making it into a gun control issue now? 

That's weird because I never saw a leftist downgrade a tragedy before when they had the chance to use it for their political gain. 

Exactly. Black guy rapes a girl and we aren't to mention it because "that's racist"

[ExFlyer]

12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Politically motivated people lump gang crime in with mass shootings, that doesn't mean that mass shootings compare directly with gang violence at all, and it doesn't mean that the Buffalo shooting is anything like a gangland shooting.

I get that you're quoting sources that you admire, but their compete (or feigned) lack of understanding of important issues is important to take note of. It's a political decision, not a reality-based decision.

FYI a white racist in Buffalo who kills black people with a gun is in the exact same type of criminal as a black racist who uses a car to kill white people in a Christmas parade in Waukesha. They may be enemies of each other, but they both committed the exact same type of crime - mass murder of a group of people who they hate. 

A Hell's Angel who kills an Outlaw is in the same group of people as a Blood that Kills a Crip. They may all be enemies of each other, but their crimes fit into the exact same categories. 

When a gangster kills some other gangsters it's not the same type of violence as when a racist kills some innocent people with different skin. Your determination to conflate those murders with each other, merely based on the choice of weapons, is absurd. 

A gun?? Is a gun doing the driving? LOL.

FYI, if you go on a killing spree, and wipe out a bunch of people because of their ethnicity or political opinions, you're just the same as any other person who does the same thing, and your choice of weapon doesn't change that.

Mass Shootings as per Police, FBI, HSI and Government.

I could not care less about your blathering excuses.

[ExFlyer]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Why are leftists so eager to talk about this as a gun control issue anyways?

I thought that your big thing was painting "white men" as the largest terrorist group in the US, and talking about the scourge of white supremacists. Shouldn't you guys be taking a victory lap?

Was the guy a card-carrying Democrat or something? 

Who is talking about gun control except you?

 I care not about guns or gun control. The topic is mass shootings. The emphasis should be on the shooters and a society that brings forth this sort of thing.

You and your ilk trying to make this a left/right issue is BS. People of both sides can be mass shooters. Idiocy and extremism is ambidextrous.

[Aristides]

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

That's old. Thanks for backing up my statement though.

Wray said that years ago and in all that time there were examples of black racists everywhere but nothing for the FBI to hang their hat on aside from a guy at a PTA meeting who was taken outside by police - he was mad because his daughter was ass-raped in her HS bathroom by a guy who had previously raped another girl in a different high school's bathroom. 

So anyways, leftists finally got a white supremacist terrorist attack and you're making it into a gun control issue now? 

That's weird because I never saw a leftist downgrade a tragedy before when they had the chance to use it for their political gain. 

Wray was a Trump appointee.

[Boges]

15 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Really? A guy whose manifesto tells us he identifies as a "leftist authoritarian" had been listening to too much Tucker Carson? You sure about that.

He tells us in the same manifesto it was 4 Chan. But now you're the greater expert on what his influences were?

I'm from Missouri. Show me.

Listening to too much leftist media nonsense, I think. I hear they're pretty happy about the opportunity to infect the gullible with the "blame Tucker' crap though. And when you follow in line they just turn to each other grinning and say, "Got another one, Julian."

Believe it or not there's another side. Try this one:

The Race-Baiting Media Seize on Buffalo Shooting to Smear Republicans –Again

Tucker peddles this Replacement Theory BS that's only motive is to enrage racists to think their Whiteness is:

1) Something inherently special

and

2) That it's being taken away from Murica by those dirty Dems

[Michael Hardner]

10 minutes ago, Boges said:

 That it's being taken away from Murica by those dirty Dems

His theory is basically that a new American should have fewer rights than he does.   Not sure that he explicitly talks about 'white' replacement, as that would be a shade too racist.

[Aristides]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

That's just stupidity.

You know that conservatives are in favour of tougher gun laws for criminals. It's leftist politicians who downgrade serious violent crimes to misdemeanours or decide not to even prosecute.

In LA you can rob a store with a handgun now and as long as you don't shoot it at anyone it's just a misdemeanour. 

The guy who ran over all those people at the Christmas parade had just used a vehicle as a weapon a week earlier and was out on $1000 bail. 

Leftists all over the place scream "racism" about 'stop & frisk', but stop and frisk works, and the thousands of people that it saved in NYC were mostly black. It seems like getting rid of it was the actual racist policy.

It's only leftists that say "LOOTING STORES IS REPARATIONS!"

You're way out to lunch on this topic dude. Leftists shouldn't even talk about crime. It's like getting a lecture about pedophilia from a leftist. ?

Struck a cord it would seem.

 

A. Conservatives are against limitations on who can own what guns.

B. Many pro lifers seem very selective when it comes to which lives have value.

C. Many of these mass killers have no criminal records.

[Nationalist]

19 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

His theory is basically that a new American should have fewer rights than he does.   Not sure that he explicitly talks about 'white' replacement, as that would be a shade too racist.

Excuse me but..."a new American should have fewer rights than he does"???

Define "new American" please.

[ExFlyer]

25 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Excuse me but..."a new American should have fewer rights than he does"???

Define "new American" please.

Google is oyur freind

IAW the dictionary:

New American 

noun

---

DEFINITIONS1

---

1. 1

   a recent immigrant to the US or the child of a recent immigrant

   The remarks have been condemned as “racist comments that have legitimised fear and hatred of New Americans and people of colour” by a largely-symbolic vote in the US House of Representatives.

[Nationalist]

32 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Google is oyur freind

IAW the dictionary:

New American 

noun

---

DEFINITIONS1

---

1. 1

   a recent immigrant to the US or the child of a recent immigrant

   The remarks have been condemned as “racist comments that have legitimised fear and hatred of New Americans and people of colour” by a largely-symbolic vote in the US House of Representatives.

Ah...OK.

A recent immigrant. Would that be a LEGAL immigrant? One that followed the immigration laws fully and has been awarded citizenship? Or would this include the masses flooding the US/Mexico border right now?

A child of a recent immigrant. Again...a LEGAL immigrant?

Aaand...I find that the House of Reps felt they needed to condemn or label the term "New Americans"...childish...at best.

[ExFlyer]

Just now, Nationalist said:

Ah...OK.

A recent immigrant. Would that be a LEGAL immigrant? One that followed the immigration laws fully and has been awarded citizenship? Or would this include the masses flooding the US/Mexico border right now?

A child of a recent immigrant. Again...a LEGAL immigrant?

Aaand...I find that the House of Reps felt they needed to condemn or label the term "New Americans"...childish...at best.

C'mon over. I have a few nits to pick out of my ass. You seem very good at that. LOL

Dude, you asked, it was thrown at ya, suck it up.

[Infidel Dog]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

Tucker peddles this Replacement Theory BS that's only motive is to enrage racists to think their Whiteness is:

Progressive narrative BS. Tucker deals in facts - something you and yours can't seem to tolerate.

Speaking of which...I specifically asked to see some to factual support for your particular BS. I notice you didn't. Is that because you don't have any? Yeah it is.

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

C'mon over. I have a few nits to pick out of my ass. You seem very good at that. LOL

Dude, you asked, it was thrown at ya, suck it up.

I see.

So any person who can manage to get his or her backside into the USA, regardless of what the legality of their presence is...is a "New American".

How unbelievably silly. A "New American" would be a newborn to citizens of the USA, or folks who have gone through the process to become American citizens recently.

You might wanna get ur head outta ur ass...

Edited May 17, 2022 by Nationalist

[Infidel Dog]

50 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Google is oyur freind

IAW the dictionary:

New American 

noun

---

DEFINITIONS1

---

1. 1

   a recent immigrant to the US or the child of a recent immigrant

   The remarks have been condemned as “racist comments that have legitimised fear and hatred of New Americans and people of colour” by a largely-symbolic vote in the US House of Representatives.

Google is a Progressive Socialist's friend. Not mine.

I did go to Duck Duck Go though to find out who provided that definition. Near as I can find IAW is some sort of women's forum. Is that who you and Google are using for your authority on what words mean or is IAW something else?

Nationalist asks a key question you didn't answer. Are whatever IAW is talking about legal or illegal immigrants. Tucker is most often talking about illegals or Biden allowed but should be illegal immigrants.

Edited May 17, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[Boges]

Tucker seems pretty keen on promoting Replacement Theory. 

Not that this type of Xenophobia is anything particularly new. 

[Boges]

6 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I see.

So any person who can manage to get his or her backside into the USA, regardless of what the legality of their presence is...is a "New American".

How unbelievably silly. A "New American" would be a newborn to citizens of the USA, or folks who have gone through the process to become American citizens recently.

You might wanna get ur head outta ur ass...

Cite where non-citizens in the US can vote Federally. 

[Infidel Dog]

7 minutes ago, Boges said:

Tucker seems pretty keen on promoting Replacement Theory. 

Not that this type of Xenophobia is anything particularly new. 

That's not the great replacement theory. 

Here's what a left wing source tells me the great replacement theory is:

"The original theory states that, with the complicity or cooperation of "replacist" elites,^[a][4][7] the white European populations are being demographically and culturally replaced with non-white peoples — especially from Muslim-majority countries — through mass migration, demographic growth and a drop in the birth rate of white Europeans.^[4][8][9] Mainstream scholars have dismissed these claims as rooted in an exaggerated reading of immigration statistics and premised upon an unscientific, racist worldview.^[10][11]"

Tucker is talking about how Biden and the Dems have been hoping to open the border up to illegals to attract more Democrat support in elections. He's made no assumptions concerning color.

He has all kinds of evidential support for that theory. You don't for yours on him supporting the great replacement theory.

Try again.

Edited May 17, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[Infidel Dog]

What it sounds like, Boges, is your narrative masters are trying to push is their ol' change the definition of the label trick to justify a slur.

[Michael Hardner]

15 minutes ago, Boges said:

Tucker seems pretty keen on promoting Replacement Theory. 

Not that this type of Xenophobia is anything particularly new. 

Sure but it's anti-immigrant...

"They're trying to CHANGE THE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES"

Uh, well yes.  The population... goes... up... 

Simpleton politics for anger-bots.

[Nationalist]

9 minutes ago, Boges said:

Cite where non-citizens in the US can vote Federally. 

Wanna play word games huh?

If, as you "suggest" here, that a New American is a LEGAL Citizen of the USA, then why would anyone bend reality, except in order to "suggest" an unreal motive exists within any person...like Tucker Carlson...who uses the term...New American? What purpose does such an accusation serve, if not to promote the idea that anyone inside the USA, should be considered a citizen?

The Libbie news and the Dumbocrats really should try harder to not be so...transparent.

They also might wanna be careful to not be slanderous...

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Excuse me but..."a new American should have fewer rights than he does"???

Define "new American" please.

Someone who isn't old stock?

[Infidel Dog]

What it sounds like, Boges, is your narrative masters are trying push their ol' change the definition of the label trick to justify a slur.

Tucker is only offering up a natural assumption and well-supported theory that the Democrats have been hoping for some time to pump new democrat voters into the country by hook or by crook.

That's not great replacement theory and that's not what the Buffalo shooter was pushing. He says in his manifesto he's not conservative which would imply not republican. I believe he refers to himself as a "leftist authoritarian" who is now or was deeply into Communism.

Edited May 17, 2022 by Infidel Dog