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5 hours ago, cougar said:

1.   Why don't we then just do like the States do?  A flag is much easier to understand  - it has no heirs and successors, no chance to commit a despicable act on its own.

2.  The vision of the "queen" cannot motivate me to fight, neither the endless scams our society is built on.   "Building" is a stretchy term.  I can see how one can build a one lane bridge over a big river in a small community and make a difference; I cannot see the value of large multi-lane bridges, skyscrapers, pipelines, large industrial developments, even vehicle manufacturing at the rates it is now.  To me it is destruction; not building anything but destroying something that had  greater value.

3. Didn't your ancestors do exactly that when they arrived on this continent?   You do not speak Ojibway or Mohawk or whatever language and live by their established traditions.  As it turned out, those locals were put in residential schools to either assimilate or die.

4.  The "advantage taking" may actually be the other way around.  What did I take advantage of?  I hike the mountains, fish the rivers, always go as far away from other users as I can.  I pay my taxes and generally speaking have not become all that much richer after moving here - I have a car and a small house and a corresponding loan and mortgage.  I took advantage of the opportunity to become a slave it seems.  

5.  Don't know what this even means.  I follow the laws of the country and in this regard I am fulfilling my oath.  Am I going to embrace all aspects of the country? Probably not.

1.  The Queen answers to Canadians, not the other way around.  The Queen has no power to commit "a despicable act".  We live in a democracy now, and a constitutional monarchy, no Canadian has to worry about taking "orders" from the Queen.

As for why we don't do what the Americans do, the answer is we're Canadians, not Americans.  This is our system, and it's been around for over a millennia, constantly evolving and improving.  This is what I mean by "building".  In the not so distant past people admired the monarchy more than it does now, so the system hangs on.  It's all pomp and circumstance and elitist BS in my eyes, i just take it as the symbol it is.  The Queen is about as relevant as a flag.

Before you sign up to join a system you should learn how it operates.  But that's equally Canada's fault, we hardly teach native Canadians or newcomers about our system.  The Liberals are ashamed of it and our history.  They're led by French Quebecois like Pierre Trudeau, his son, Chretien etc. who secretly and not-so-secretly despise the British crown and the British parts of our history, as many French-Canadians do (though not all).

2. The flourishing and free country you and I are fortunate enough to live in has been made possible largely by migrants and their kin helping build it into what it is today, with some help from the indigenous.  If you don't want more buildings and highways then don't support more immigration to Canada.  I meant "build" in all senses of the word, like laws, institutions etc.  If "building a better Canada" to you means preserving the environment then that's great.

3.  I can't speak for what my ancestors did, but I know of none of them that conquered aboriginal territory.  As for the others, unfortunately all is fair in love and war.  I don't support what happened with residential schools or many other things done to aboriginals, it's a travesty.  I am 100% certain the people of your country of origin also have lots of blood on their hands.  Nobody's perfect.  The Mohawks would also be speaking German if not for my ancestors and others like them.  History is not black and white morally.

4. Yours is an incredibly entitled attitude. You're free to hike the mountains and fish the rivers in peace, just as we all are, because my ancestors and others like them defended this country from Nazis and the like.  Right now there are Canadians defending this country against the Russian and Chinese governments and anyone else who means us harm and who would slit our throats and take our land and resources if we they had the chance.  You might want to show some gratitude and respect.  Canadians respect you, we welcome migrants in with open arms more so than any other country in the world, including I assume your country of origin.  Yes, respect is a 2-way street.

Canadian citizens don't necessarily have to take up arms, they just have to bear faithful and allegiance.  If you don't understand the verbal contract you're signing, don't sign it.  If Canada ever has to go to war and you bounce, you probably won't be let back in and will have your passport ripped up because Canadians would finally wise up to the all of the entitled "Canadians of convenience" we have in our midst.  I was nice to you and already extended an olive branch to you, welcoming to migrants just as most Canadians are.  If you want to keep being an entitled and indignant brat you can go straight to hell.  You're not free to fish the rivers today in peace because cowards like yourself ran to the hills when things got rough.  And you are in no way a slave, but nice victim-complex.  You came to Canada, applied for citizenship, and recited the legal oath by your own free will, and you're free to rescind your citizenship and bounce at any time.  But you won't.  You're one of the luckiest people on earth, and so am I.

And if you want to live like aboriginals did 500 years ago and die of famine, disease, rape, or warfare you're free to do that too, sub-saharan Africa might be a good start.  But you won't.

Like most lefties you seem to live in fantasy-land, detached from the realities of this world, entitled yet full of shame while pointing fingers at all the evil oppressors that feed your victim-complex.  Gimme a break.  The next time you need medicine or go on the internet be sure to thank the evil oppressors who created it.

5.  You don't have to embrace all aspects of the country, just uphold your oath.  You're a part of a nation now, and legally obligated to bear faithful and true allegiance to its Queen and what she represents (Canada).

https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/services/crown-canada/monarch.html

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19 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

1   If Canada ever has to go to war and you bounce, you probably won't be let back in and will have your passport ripped up because Canadians would finally wise up to the all of the entitled "Canadians of convenience" we have in our midst. 

You have some sort of an idealistic idea of this place called Canada.  I remember back in the day being immersed in the same idealistic concepts, except the political order was socialism.  Rest assured you have no country and never had one.  In the conditions of globalism, there is no place for nationalists like you.  It is all just business - buying and selling, with the human bodies included in those trades.

19 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I was nice to you and already extended an olive branch to you, welcoming to migrants just as most Canadians are.  If you want to keep being an entitled and indignant brat you can go straight to hell. 

You're not free to fish the rivers today in peace because cowards like yourself ran to the hills when things got rough.

You were kind of thoughtful and nice to a point where the bottom half of your last post degraded and "nice" is no longer appropriate to describe it.  Let's leave it at this.

Russia is not interested to take your resources and cut your throat.  It is your brother neighbors to the south that are pushing for war around the world , pressuring countries, sending weapons, intimidating governments.

I do not want you to go and fight Russia, so I can continue fishing.  If you did that, I would probably not survive the nuclear war you will cause, for no good reason or provocation from Russia.

If Canada was built by nationalists with the interests of Canadians first you were going to be now buying gas at 60 cents / litter ; houses and space were going to be affordable to Canadians and protected from the influence of foreign entities; you were going to actually have good health care.

But what you have is a government that deliberately imposed sanctions on Russia to choke gas supply; then under the pretext of disrupted supplies , upped the price for you by 100%,. so you end up paying for the war and weapons they ship.  Same government that left Canadians vulnerable to foreign investor schemes and realtor corrupt practices.  same government that left you without a doctor , where an imaging for a potentially life threatening condition can take 4 months and a surgery - years of waiting.  They don't give a crap about you!  If you die tomorrow, they will just bring one more immigrant to replace you next year.   But you go fight for them!

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On 5/27/2022 at 6:09 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

1.  The Queen answers to Canadians, not the other way around.  The Queen has no power to commit "a despicable act".  We live in a democracy now, and a constitutional monarchy, no Canadian has to worry about taking "orders" from the Queen.

There is a very small number of Canadians who should be subject to her orders and those are the politicians of the government the monarch authorized - a government that is notorious for avoiding having to answer to Canadians.

She could do that but I'm reminded of the difference Queenmandy pointed out between power and authority but more to the point exerting it.

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20 hours ago, cougar said:

1. You have some sort of an idealistic idea of this place called Canada.  I remember back in the day being immersed in the same idealistic concepts, except the political order was socialism.  Rest assured you have no country and never had one.  In the conditions of globalism, there is no place for nationalists like you.  It is all just business - buying and selling, with the human bodies included in those trades.

2. Russia is not interested to take your resources and cut your throat.  It is your brother neighbors to the south that are pushing for war around the world , pressuring countries, sending weapons, intimidating governments.

3. I do not want you to go and fight Russia, so I can continue fishing.  If you did that, I would probably not survive the nuclear war you will cause, for no good reason or provocation from Russia.

4. If Canada was built by nationalists with the interests of Canadians first you were going to be now buying gas at 60 cents / litter ; houses and space were going to be affordable to Canadians and protected from the influence of foreign entities; you were going to actually have good health care.

But what you have is a government that deliberately imposed sanctions on Russia to choke gas supply; then under the pretext of disrupted supplies , upped the price for you by 100%,. so you end up paying for the war and weapons they ship.  Same government that left Canadians vulnerable to foreign investor schemes and realtor corrupt practices.  same government that left you without a doctor , where an imaging for a potentially life threatening condition can take 4 months and a surgery - years of waiting.  They don't give a crap about you!  If you die tomorrow, they will just bring one more immigrant to replace you next year.   But you go fight for them!

1. What nonsense.  The international system is organized into nation-states.  They are in constant competition with each other for limited resources.  Until that changes you better choose your loyalty and choose wisely, because there's always people out there who will take everything from you if you let them.  The world doesn't run on "globalism".  There's 200 individual nation-states with borders, divided by culture/ethnicity/religion/nation etc, whether you like it or not.  I didn't make the rules so don't blame me.  If everyone was a "globalist" like yourself and bounced any time Canada was threatened or attacked there wouldn't be a Canada.  Better brush up on your Mandarin.  Let's bring Hauwei into our 5G networks, globalism FTW.

2.  The US is not morally clean and I never said they were.  But they also aren't attacking the interests of my country and my family on a daily basis either.

3. I don't want to fight anybody either.  I'm not a violent person, but i'm not a coward either.  If you think everyone in the world wants to be your friend and means you no harm you're the one that's idealistic and naive.

4. There's a big difference between a country and a nation and the crooked politicians who may run it.  I'm not fan of Canadian politicians.  At least you know who some of your enemies are.

I also proudly pay higher gas prices due to Russian sanctions because anything that weakens the Putin regime is good for Canadian national interests.

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11 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I also proudly pay higher gas prices due to Russian sanctions because anything that weakens the Putin regime is good for Canadian national interests.

We don't weaken anything other than our own personal financial positions.  You spent $200 on gas a month before, now you need $400 for the same thing.  $200 went where?  To the politicians you hate and the CEO of a gas company.  We do not import our gas from Russia and as far as I am concerned, Canada could have had its own refinery and been totally independent from the global oil markets.

If I were you I would start learning Mandarin - I think it is available at some Canadian schools already.

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1 hour ago, cougar said:

We don't weaken anything other than our own personal financial positions.  You spent $200 on gas a month before, now you need $400 for the same thing.  $200 went where?  To the politicians you hate and the CEO of a gas company.  We do not import our gas from Russia and as far as I am concerned, Canada could have had its own refinery and been totally independent from the global oil markets.

If I were you I would start learning Mandarin - I think it is available at some Canadian schools already.

Oil is traded on a global market.

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56 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Oil is traded on a global market.

But if you have a national company run by nationalists, they can still sell you oil at cost+ ; not international global market prices.

And this is just one example.

Canadian real estate?  Same thing - sold to the highest international bidder.  And this is your homeland that you will defend with your life?  What are you defending - the interests and properties of international entities and investors who may not even be in Canada.

Hope I made my point clear to you.

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3 hours ago, cougar said:

But if you have a national company run by nationalists, they can still sell you oil at cost+ ; not international global market prices.

And this is just one example.

Canadian real estate?  Same thing - sold to the highest international bidder.  And this is your homeland that you will defend with your life?  What are you defending - the interests and properties of international entities and investors who may not even be in Canada.

Hope I made my point clear to you.

I defend my homeland against the crooks on Parliament Hill also.  They are traitors who have sold Canadians out to the highest bidder, international and domestic, in the interests of the rich in this country.  I'm not going to abandon my country because of a bunch of crooked politicians.

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3 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

 I'm not going to abandon my country because of a bunch of crooked politicians.

What they've done is irreversible.  You have no country no more.  It has  been sold out to foreigners and the process continues.

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There you go.  This Sikh is suing the province because he says the oath to the Queen goes against his religious beliefs. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-law-student-sues-province-law-society-over-mandatory-oath-to-the-queen-1.6514316

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34 minutes ago, cougar said:

There you go.  This Sikh is suing the province because he says the oath to the Queen goes against his religious beliefs. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-law-student-sues-province-law-society-over-mandatory-oath-to-the-queen-1.6514316

this is what comes of nationalism in the Confederation of Canada

the whole point of the Canadian monarchy is to stave off these nationalist schisms

it is not just the French who could overthrow Canada in the name of ethno-nationalism

the Confederation itself came about in the face of an Irish nationalist invasion from America in 1866

British is not a race, British is not a place

British is simply Parliamentary Supremacy & the rule of Anglo-Saxon law upon the Hill in Ottawa

now, there is no force which could impel you to defend & uphold that

it is entirely one's prerogative what one would kill & die for

but if no Loyalist patriot sons will fight & die for it, then Canada will be no more

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in actual fact,  it is not prohibited to overthrow the Government in Canada

if said government were to fail to uphold their oaths & affirmations, they are forfeit

but there is one thing you may not overthrow in Canada

and that is the monarchy

you may not overthrow the Queen of Canada

as that would be the technical definition of treason, the only way to commit treason against Canada in the end

VRI - GSTQ

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On 7/10/2022 at 11:18 AM, Dougie93 said:

you may not overthrow the Queen of Canada

 

You are overthinking it.

My guess is the sick psycho sikh is looking for attention.   He is not looking to overthrow the queen.

He cannot quietly take his oath and give not much thought of it like most of us. 

Any religious person can make the same claim as that idiot.

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2 hours ago, cougar said:

You are overthinking it.

My guess is the sick psycho sikh is looking for attention.   He is not looking to overthrow the queen.

He cannot quietly take his oath and give not much thought of it like most of us. 

Any religious person can make the same claim as that idiot.

I quite like the Punjabi Sikhs myself

this one Sikh is not indicative of how they are as a collective

I find that most Sikhs are actually dissenting to the Indian Democracy, because it is dominated by Hindus

most Sikh's who come here actually prefer what Canada has to offer

no particular ethnic nor religious prerogatives in Canada

that makes them more free here in the last office of the British Empire, and they know it

the Sikh's are an ethnic warrior sect, like the Gurkha's

once they swear to kill & die for Canada, they are 100% reliable in my experience

and once you go over the top for the British Crown, all is forgiven, where I come from at least

whether you are from Nova Scotia, or Quebec, or Punjab, it's all the same Empire in the end

we are all the same mercenaries for the Queen, brothers in arms, no matter our ethnicity

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