Tamara Lich to Receive George Jonas Freedom Award, Our Hate-Mongering PM will be Furious

[ExFlyer]

11 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

See title of your linky-dink. Everything but that.

Which I provided for our forum members here so they could see your deceptive ways and lies.  

Ok maybe not lies.

Maybe you’re just very sadly mistaken.

But never OftenWrong

[ExFlyer]

16 hours ago, Faramir said:

I'd like to know why its OK for terrorist groups like antifa and blm to protest in Ottawa but not the truckers?

Neither of them set up camp, blocked streets and stayed for 3 + weeks.

[ExFlyer]

15 hours ago, West said:

In the case of the Ottawa protests I know several people who attended. They all provided first hand accounts of the incidents, all of which said the media reporting was wildly inaccurate. You could see thru the many hours of live streams how much the press lied. We pay for the CBC to propagandize us... think about that for a second. 

If you can't see the clear bias in the press then you are either wilfully ignorant or lack any sort of ability to think critically. 

Now, to be clear, my issue was always the mandates. I don't believe in coercing someone to get a needle. It's abhorrent and un-Canadian. I don't necessarily have the same issues with the vaccine as some people do, though do agree with them that objectively speaking it has not performed as advertised, and certainly even if one person suffered any sort of vaccine injury that in my mind would be grounds for moral objecting to the leftists pushing the vaccine on the population through coercive measures. Of course leftists lack any moral character anyway so can see why they support it.

My issue with the Lich case is they've taken perfectly legitimate concerns, LIED about convoy participants in an attempt to smear them and provide excuse to not have to address their arguments. It's pathetic and shows our current guy occupying the PMs office has neither the leadership skills nor the moral authority to govern. Couple that with the insane amount of scandals his party repeatedly engages in going back decades and its disgusting people continue to vote for them. To me I have no respect for the Liberal voters anymore.. they are vile human beings as far as I'm concerned

Look, your entire argument is that Lich is a political prisoner.

I get your argument but even you are smart enough to know that is bunk. She broke Ontario laws, local laws and sufferer those consequences.
if you so much think Trudeau has the power or authority to change or make up laws and control the courts, why is he not telling the Supreme Court to alter it's ruling on consecutive sentencing and allowing parole after 25 years for multiple murders? The Government does not agree so, according to you and your followers, he can change that.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/government-disagrees-with-top-court-s-decision-on-gunman-s-parole-but-will-respect-it-lametti/ar-AAXNQbd?ocid=EMMX&cvid=c0b79f85ee354b35a0bdfc0af1d2a469

[Zeitgeist]

The Trudeau government drafted policy overnight to go after political opponents.  Remember the freezing of bank accounts, removal of business licences, and breach of privacy by encouraging the naming of names in mass media? 

[sharkman]

Is that Bill C 36?  If that bill gets passed I will certainly not be posting here anymore.  This forum will probably lose most of its conservative members and become nothing but an echo chamber.  Good luck Greg.

 

[West]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Look, your entire argument is that Lich is a political prisoner.

I get your argument but even you are smart enough to know that is bunk. She broke Ontario laws, local laws and sufferer those consequences.
if you so much think Trudeau has the power or authority to change or make up laws and control the courts, why is he not telling the Supreme Court to alter it's ruling on consecutive sentencing and allowing parole after 25 years for multiple murders? The Government does not agree so, according to you and your followers, he can change that.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/government-disagrees-with-top-court-s-decision-on-gunman-s-parole-but-will-respect-it-lametti/ar-AAXNQbd?ocid=EMMX&cvid=c0b79f85ee354b35a0bdfc0af1d2a469

She didn't tho. The leftists have been caught in lie after lie here. That's the point...

[West]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Neither of them set up camp, blocked streets and stayed for 3 + weeks.

They didn't block steets.. the police blocked off the street... the text messages prove that

[ExFlyer]

27 minutes ago, West said:

They didn't block steets.. the police blocked off the street... the text messages prove that

After the entourage blocked the street, the police put up barricades to prevent further vehicle from entering and adding to the shit show.

So, the shitshow went to other streets and the police once again put up barricades to prevent more from coming. Eventually, the downtown core was closed off and then, and only , then truckers reps said where do we go and the city said go to the baseball stadium and use their parking lot, even though the parking lot at Lansdowne was closer and more convenient for the truckers shitshow.

I live here, saw and heard what went on at the time it was going on. I have friends and neighbours that had to go downtown to work and explained in pissed off detail of what was happening.

So for me, your facebook video bursts are mostly BS and not at all descriptive or what actually was going on.

[ExFlyer]

37 minutes ago, West said:

She didn't tho. The leftists have been caught in lie after lie here. That's the point...

what the hell are you trying to convey??/

[West]

52 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

After the entourage blocked the street, the police put up barricades to prevent further vehicle from entering and adding to the shit show.

So, the shitshow went to other streets and the police once again put up barricades to prevent more from coming. Eventually, the downtown core was closed off and then, and only , then truckers reps said where do we go and the city said go to the baseball stadium and use their parking lot, even though the parking lot at Lansdowne was closer and more convenient for the truckers shitshow.

I live here, saw and heard what went on at the time it was going on. I have friends and neighbours that had to go downtown to work and explained in pissed off detail of what was happening.

So for me, your facebook video bursts are mostly BS and not at all descriptive or what actually was going on.

Wrong. They worked with the police before they got there. Either way they had a right to protest the vile mandates of the Trudeau government.

Little fun fact for ya. The western convoy was parked either out of the city or parked at the baseball field. Tamara Lich had nothing to do with the vehicles on Wellington as most of those arrived a few days earlier... you know while she was still probably in Alberta or something. 

The police mishandled the situation as did Trudeau as did the Mayor. I mean it's not like they didn't have five days while a convoy was coming across the country to pull themselves together lol. Lich was a convenient scapegoat to save face even if it meant violating civil liberties and abusing the legal system

As for your friend, don't care. The people in Ottawa were also crying about noise from generators when the power went out. A bunch of vile people in that city... little cry babies

Edited May 28, 2022 by West

[West]

50 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

what the hell are you trying to convey??/

That you folks lie repeatedly and is the reason she's in jail. Made up stuff and then claim she committed a crime. 

Try to throw her back in jail for accepting a reward then get reamed by a federal judge for trying to turn the court room into a political circus. 

Edited May 28, 2022 by West

[Zeitgeist]

57 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

After the entourage blocked the street, the police put up barricades to prevent further vehicle from entering and adding to the shit show.

So, the shitshow went to other streets and the police once again put up barricades to prevent more from coming. Eventually, the downtown core was closed off and then, and only , then truckers reps said where do we go and the city said go to the baseball stadium and use their parking lot, even though the parking lot at Lansdowne was closer and more convenient for the truckers shitshow.

I live here, saw and heard what went on at the time it was going on. I have friends and neighbours that had to go downtown to work and explained in pissed off detail of what was happening.

So for me, your facebook video bursts are mostly BS and not at all descriptive or what actually was going on.

That’s life in the capital.  Many protesters came, an essential part of democracy.  Banning a protest so you don’t have to see blue collar workers exercising their rights isn’t okay.  Maybe if Trudeau met with them and tabled their concerns in a reasonable way, the protest would’ve dispersed sooner.  Instead, after the removal of blockades and the injunction against honking, the Trudeau government imposed martial law and hid at home.  We got to see peaceful protesters get beaten behind the crowds to the tune of Oh Canada.  Sick.  

[West]

11 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

That’s life in the capital.  Many protesters came, an essential part of democracy.  Banning a protest so you don’t have to see blue collar workers exercising their rights isn’t okay.  Maybe if Trudeau met with them and tabled their concerns in a reasonable way, the protest would’ve dispersed sooner.  Instead, after the removal of blockades and the injunction against honking, the Trudeau government imposed martial law and hid at home.  We got to see peaceful protesters get beaten behind the crowds to the tune of Oh Canada.  Sick.  

Yup. The champagne sipping socialists sure do hate the working men and women of this country.

They love being paid to be lobbyists down in Ottawa but if someone else they disagree with protest they should be tossed in jail.

Edited May 28, 2022 by West

[ExFlyer]

41 minutes ago, West said:

Wrong. They worked with the police before they got there. Either way they had a right to protest the vile mandates of the Trudeau government.

Little fun fact for ya. The western convoy was parked either out of the city or parked at the baseball field. Tamara Lich had nothing to do with the vehicles on Wellington as most of those arrived a few days earlier... you know while she was still probably in Alberta or something. 

The police mishandled the situation as did Trudeau as did the Mayor. I mean it's not like they didn't have five days while a convoy was coming across the country to pull themselves together lol. Lich was a convenient scapegoat to save face even if it meant violating civil liberties and abusing the legal system

As for your friend, don't care. The people in Ottawa were also crying about noise from generators when the power went out. A bunch of vile people in that city... little cry babies

Stop already.

The whole thing is the people in Ottawa, not the people wherever you are. It is easy to make proclamations if you are a thousand miles away LOL

[West]

1 minute ago, ExFlyer said:

Stop already.

The whole thing is the people in Ottawa, not the people wherever you are. It is easy to make proclamations if you are a thousand miles away LOL

So the people of Ottawa alone get to determine what's an "acceptable view" to protest about.. ? screw the rest of the country ?

Edited May 28, 2022 by West

[ExFlyer]

39 minutes ago, West said:

That you folks lie repeatedly and is the reason she's in jail. Made up stuff and then claim she committed a crime. 

Try to throw her back in jail for accepting a reward then get reamed by a federal judge for trying to turn the court room into a political circus. 

Get over yourself.

She is not charged with anything I made u[p. She is charged under existing laws.The judge in the courtroom  could not care less why she broke existing laws. He set her bail to get out of jail based on what she may or may not do after she is out.

[ExFlyer]

28 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

That’s life in the capital.  Many protesters came, an essential part of democracy.  Banning a protest so you don’t have to see blue collar workers exercising their rights isn’t okay.  Maybe if Trudeau met with them and tabled their concerns in a reasonable way, the protest would’ve dispersed sooner.  Instead, after the removal of blockades and the injunction against honking, the Trudeau government imposed martial law and hid at home.  We got to see peaceful protesters get beaten behind the crowds to the tune of Oh Canada.  Sick.  

Absolutely right. Here in Ottawa, as I have said many times, there are protests at least every weekend. Sometimes several during the week too.

They come, do their thing and go. Only one has ever set up encampments on the main street.

Thing is now, the truckers protest has forever made things difficult for every protest that comes after. There are rules and restrictions being developed so that sort of thing will never happen again. They are even talking about enlarging the parliamentary district to make policing of that area a federal jurisdiction. Yup, your gang and screwed everyone that comes after you. Proud I hope LOL

[West]

6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Get over yourself.

She is not charged with anything I made u[p. She is charged under existing laws.The judge in the courtroom  could not care less why she broke existing laws. He set her bail to get out of jail based on what she may or may not do after she is out.

Lol.. you keep saying that not acknowledging the fact that the prosecutor just got torn apart by a judge for bringing the circus into his court room. 

I'm not making up the criticism.. a judge just basically said the same thing. You going to acknowledge that?

Innocent people are charged all the time. Trouble is the legal system is being abused by leftists looking to criminalize political disputes. Then claim "oh oh no no she actually broke the law" lol... f'ing pathetic  that people think like you and are okay with abusing the legal system. You are a disgrace to this country.. go cry some more about people with views you don't like being able to exist you coward.

Edited May 28, 2022 by West

[ExFlyer]

7 minutes ago, West said:

So the people of Ottawa alone get to determine what's an "acceptable view" to protest about.. ? screw the rest of the country ?

Not now. After the changes that are being planned, it will all be up to federal policing. All as a result to the truckers debacle.

[ExFlyer]

53 minutes ago, West said:

Wrong. They worked with the police before they got there. Either way they had a right to protest the vile mandates of the Trudeau government.

Little fun fact for ya. The western convoy was parked either out of the city or parked at the baseball field. Tamara Lich had nothing to do with the vehicles on Wellington as most of those arrived a few days earlier... you know while she was still probably in Alberta or something. 

The police mishandled the situation as did Trudeau as did the Mayor. I mean it's not like they didn't have five days while a convoy was coming across the country to pull themselves together lol. Lich was a convenient scapegoat to save face even if it meant violating civil liberties and abusing the legal system

As for your friend, don't care. The people in Ottawa were also crying about noise from generators when the power went out. A bunch of vile people in that city... little cry babies

Yup, the police did mishandle the situation and the police chief quit in disgrace. As soon as the temporary chief got command, things changed  the end of the protest was in sight.

You may not care about my friends and neighbours but, they were actually there and not by video burst like you.

[West]

27 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Yup, the police did mishandle the situation and the police chief quit in disgrace. As soon as the temporary chief got command, things changed  the end of the protest was in sight.

You may not care about my friends and neighbours but, they were actually there and not by video burst like you.

Lol.. well it's not the fault of the truckers the one guy told them to park where they did and will no doubt prove to be troublesome for the crown in any sort of trial if it even gets that far. Of course the whole purpose of the Crown isn't a conviction.. probably hoping for either a plea bargain or may hold out long enough to harass Lich and punish by process (even tho she's innocent). 

I dont care about cry baby leftists crying about a protest in our nation's capital. They didn't care about me or others who lost jobs over their draconian mandates. Hopefully they face some karma. Probably just crying as they had to walk two blocks instead of one to their office and wore out those nice dress shoes that they can buy of the backs of taxpayers.

We send enough of our tax dollars down there as is. No sense worrying about a minor inconvenience for them such as a loud generator when their policies are creating actual problems for people

Edited May 28, 2022 by West

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Yup, the police did mishandle the situation and the police chief quit in disgrace. As soon as the temporary chief got command, things changed  the end of the protest was in sight.

You may not care about my friends and neighbours but, they were actually there and not by video burst like you.

Not our problem that your neighbours are arrogant sucks and the new police chief sounded like the head of the SS.

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, West said:

Lol.. well it's not the fault of the truckers the one guy told them to park where they did and will no doubt prove to be troublesome for the crown in any sort of trial if it even gets that far. Of course the whole purpose of the Crown isn't a conviction.. probably hoping for either a plea bargain or may hold out long enough to harass Lich and punish by process (even tho she's innocent). 

I dont care about cry baby leftists crying about a protest in our nation's capital. They didn't care about me or others who lost jobs over their draconian mandates. Hopefully they face some karma. Probably just crying as they had to walk two blocks instead of one to their office and wore out those nice dress shoes that they can buy of the backs of taxpayers.

We send enough of our tax dollars down there as is. No sense worrying about a minor inconvenience for them such as a loud generator when their policies are creating actual problems for people

Ottawa is a city of 1 million people. A very small percentage are government and even less your elected parliamentarians. To insult Ottawans only demonstrates your contempt.

I have tried to discuss and even argue with you about this but it is clear, you are unwilling and unable to be civil and logical.

I think she and some others will get off because being charged and having that on their record will be sufficient to restrict their actions and movements anyway. (if you think dismissed charges are removed from your record, dream on). Her partner, whatever is name is is still sitting in jail. Now there is a loser I am sure you are proud of. If not why? He was the leader before Lich got the crown  LOL Why  aren't you crusaders helping or defending him? Or do you realize he is a loser?

I will leave you and your ilk with this.

Your trucker protest and your trucker heros have forever changed the way any protest here in Ottawa and anywhere will be managed and paroled from now on. Your truckers have initiated change in policing procedures and processes for protests throughout the Country. If you think you lost freedoms then, wait for it. I suspect all gatherings will now be fully supervised, videoed, photographed and recorded and any and all laws and regulations will be strictly enforced. Be proud, your heros f**ked every protester from now on.

 

[ExFlyer]

38 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Not our problem that your neighbours are arrogant sucks and the new police chief sounded like the head of the SS.

Repeated for your enjoyment:

Ottawa is a city of 1 million people. A very small percentage are government and even less your elected parliamentarians. To insult Ottawans only demonstrates your contempt.

I have tried to discuss and even argue with you about this but it is clear, you are unwilling and unable to be civil and logical.

I think she and some others will get off because being charged and having that on their record will be sufficient to restrict their actions and movements anyway. (if you think dismissed charges are removed from your record, dream on). Her partner, whatever is name is is still sitting in jail. Now there is a loser I am sure you are proud of. If not why? He was the leader before Lich got the crown  LOL Why  aren't you crusaders helping or defending him? Or do you realize he is a loser?

I will leave you and your ilk with this.

Your trucker protest and your trucker heros have forever changed the way any protest here in Ottawa and anywhere will be managed and paroled from now on. Your truckers have initiated change in policing procedures and processes for protests throughout the Country. If you think you lost freedoms then, wait for it. I suspect all gatherings will now be fully supervised, videoed, photographed and recorded and any and all laws and regulations will be strictly enforced. Be proud, your heros f**ked every protester from now on.

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Repeated for your enjoyment:

Ottawa is a city of 1 million people. A very small percentage are government and even less your elected parliamentarians. To insult Ottawans only demonstrates your contempt.

I have tried to discuss and even argue with you about this but it is clear, you are unwilling and unable to be civil and logical.

I think she and some others will get off because being charged and having that on their record will be sufficient to restrict their actions and movements anyway. (if you think dismissed charges are removed from your record, dream on). Her partner, whatever is name is is still sitting in jail. Now there is a loser I am sure you are proud of. If not why? He was the leader before Lich got the crown  LOL Why  aren't you crusaders helping or defending him? Or do you realize he is a loser?

I will leave you and your ilk with this.

Your trucker protest and your trucker heros have forever changed the way any protest here in Ottawa and anywhere will be managed and paroled from now on. Your truckers have initiated change in policing procedures and processes for protests throughout the Country. If you think you lost freedoms then, wait for it. I suspect all gatherings will now be fully supervised, videoed, photographed and recorded and any and all laws and regulations will be strictly enforced. Be proud, your heros f**ked every protester from now on.

The choice that the Liberal government made to treat the essential workers who delivered your goods through the worst part of the pandemic like second class citizens unworthy of a hearing was theirs alone.  The world won’t forget how our government treated Canadians in February 2022.  The tension in the air was compared by immigrants from Eastern Europe to the oppressive atmosphere of protests under communist dictatorships.  That for me and millions of Canadians will be the legacy of this government.  Martial law, the unprecedented freezing of bank accounts, seizure of assets, removal of licenses, mistreatment of veterans, and the vilification of citizens who opposed vaccine mandates.

Sorry your neighbours didn’t like the traffic, presence of truckers, and the carnival atmosphere.  Not sorry.  

Edited May 28, 2022 by Zeitgeist