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6 minutes ago, taxme said:

They are the real enemy of we the peasants. Just my opinion of course. 

You were only peasants if you act like peasants. If you fall for hucksters, fake issues, and slogans then peasantry will be all yours.

The populists of the 20th century demanded wages for working families, weekends, and a social safety net.

The populists of the 21st century worry about trans people in girls sports,ask mandates and Woke Wookies.

Which set of issues challenges the power elites more?

 

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1 hour ago, myata said:

Well funny - interesting that after such a long while some common grounds could be found still. Only would disagree about the term, it's the opposite: not silly, but smart expression of clear and dominating above all else self-interest. It's been working (for them) perfectly, so what would be the reason to change anything.

Who are you talking about when you say them? I'm talking about us the governed and them the governments. You still seem to be stuck talking about partisans and their parties.

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1 hour ago, taxme said:

All freedom lovers are asking for is to be able go back to the good old Canada days before covid

And you will, as soon as the pandemic is over. It could be another few years, if some of the previous pandemics ar anything to go by. Be patient and suck it up. We managed to keep the death toll down to less than 41,000 compared to the million Americans who were killed by it.

The purpose of the public health orders is to prevent you from passing it on to others. If the government fails to do all it can to slow the spread of the disease, it is derelict in its duty to protect. They had all party all provincial government and overwhelming public support in their actions. Most of the lockdowns and mandates were implemented by the Provincial governments. That kind of support means the government acted democratically. 

The declaration of the Emergencies Act had no impact on anyone's charter rights. 

Some of the people on this forum have no idea what a marxist is. Sad.

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7 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Some of the people on this forum have no idea what a marxist is. Sad.

Conservatives used to be superior rhetorical adversaries.  Now they decry Marxist Liberal Wokers.

 

Hell, the NDP didn't even get their key bargaining piece - the dental program - to be universal.

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28 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

And you will, as soon as the pandemic is over. It could be another few years, if some of the previous pandemics ar anything to go by. Be patient and suck it up. We managed to keep the death toll down to less than 41,000 compared to the million Americans who were killed by it.

The purpose of the public health orders is to prevent you from passing it on to others. If the government fails to do all it can to slow the spread of the disease, it is derelict in its duty to protect. They had all party all provincial government and overwhelming public support in their actions. Most of the lockdowns and mandates were implemented by the Provincial governments. That kind of support means the government acted democratically. 

The declaration of the Emergencies Act had no impact on anyone's charter rights. 

Some of the people on this forum have no idea what a marxist is. Sad.

Nah. Erosion of privacy and fundamental rights have really accelerated since probably 9/11. Covid has taken a larger chunk that I doubt will ever be restored.. its never "temporary" with a leftist when you give them a little bit of power.

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4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Liberals were calling Harper and Bush fascist then and I was defending them.

Yesterday the whipping boy was the Muslims. Today its the unvaccinated. Tomorrow it'll be somebody else. Politicians need to have a boogeyman that they can save you from. 

I dont believe someone to save me. Certainly not a woman groper like Trudeau.

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6 hours ago, West said:

Nah. Erosion of privacy and fundamental rights have really accelerated since probably 9/11.

The erosion of any human freedom and fundamental right around the planet that could be linked to 9/11 and terrorism was embraced, cheered on and encouraged by the very same people who've cried like babies over having to wear a face diaper.

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Covid has taken a larger chunk that I doubt will ever be restored..

Certainly in terms of deaths.  If Americans had taken COVID as seriously as they did 9/11 I suspect the death toll might have been kept down in the low hundreds and perhaps even just tens of thousands of deaths.  I mean contrast the immediate reaction to 9/11 in terms of banning flights into America to the so-called banning in reaction to COVID.  I'll grant that America had valid reason to believe the attack it was under on 9/11 might be bigger than it was or even military in nature.  So given that what are we to make of all the hooey about COVID being a potential bioweapon?

I suspect half the Middle East would still be glowing blue at night if a million Americans had died on 9/11.  

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its never "temporary" with a leftist when you give them a little bit of power.

Yeah well, Democrats have always been and still are to the right of Canada's more serious conservative parties. Extra-legal drone attacks and assassinations all increased on Obama's watch.

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50 minutes ago, eyeball said:

The erosion of any human freedom and fundamental right around the planet that could be linked to 9/11 and terrorism was embraced, cheered on and encouraged by the very same people who've cried like babies over having to wear a face diaper.

Certainly in terms of deaths.  If Americans had taken COVID as seriously as they did 9/11 I suspect the death toll might have been kept down in the low hundreds and perhaps even just tens of thousands of deaths.  I mean contrast the immediate reaction to 9/11 in terms of banning flights into America to the so-called banning in reaction to COVID.  I'll grant that America had valid reason to believe the attack it was under on 9/11 might be bigger than it was or even military in nature.  So given that what are we to make of all the hooey about COVID being a potential bioweapon?

I suspect half the Middle East would still be glowing blue at night if a million Americans had died on 9/11.  

Yeah well, Democrats have always been and still are to the right of Canada's more serious conservative parties. Extra-legal drone attacks and assassinations all increased on Obama's watch.

Trump did attempt to block flights from China. Probably a big reason why you didn't see a massive spike on the west coast initially. I seem to remember leftists calling it "racist" to issue travel bans. We are also dealing with a microscopic virus.. I reject the premise that you were ever going to eradicate it with lockdowns and mask mandates. We had those for two years and here we are. Our response only led to mass wealth transfers like Pfizer and Amazon. 

Covid became political because of an election cycle in the US. Biden claimed he could shut down Covid. Yet more have died under his watch than under Trump and there's wide access to a vaccine. 

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15 hours ago, West said:

Nice pivot. Once again a liberal being vile. No surprise

E-mails in the beginning (25 Jan) and clearly nothing became of it. The letter was 22 Feb, a week away from the police moving them out.

No pivot, just a letter from a leader looking for a way out to save some face...big fail LOL

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4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

E-mails in the beginning (25 Jan) and clearly nothing became of it. The letter was 22 Feb, a week away from the police moving them out.

No pivot, just a letter from a leader looking for a way out to save some face...big fail LOL

No it shows the convoy worked with the police the whole time. So the violent crackdown by police was unnecessary. Just the pathetic mayor and pathetic PM trying to save face. 

I find it sad you support these actions 

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35 minutes ago, West said:

No it shows the convoy worked with the police the whole time. So the violent crackdown by police was unnecessary. Just the pathetic mayor and pathetic PM trying to save face. 

I find it sad you support these actions 

No, it shows they asked in the beginning and then did what they wanted anyway and in the end, tried to prevent what eventually happened, getting the boot.

I support my city to keep the riff raff out. Invite them to your town next time.

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1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

If it wasn’t for the truckers, restrictions and mandates would be worse than they are now.  They put themselves on the line rather than supporting unconstitutional policies like many of you lot.  

Pretty hard to prove, given that mandates and restrictions were being lifted while they were still protesting.

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1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

No, it shows they asked in the beginning and then did what they wanted anyway and in the end, tried to prevent what eventually happened, getting the boot.

I support my city to keep the riff raff out. Invite them to your town next time.

Nonsense. The police were the ones directing traffick. If an individual trucker was not obeying the rules of the road that's on them not someone else. 

The fact they are trying to pin someone else honking their horn on Tamara Lich is a prime illustration of how political this nonsense is. 

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12 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Pretty hard to prove, given that mandates and restrictions were being lifted while they were still protesting.

Only because of the protest. Up until that point Quebec was trying to ban the unvaccinated from shopping for groceries and had to be in a metal box escorted by security to pick up medication. Absolutely nothing rational about that.

Trudeau still has his irrational travel ban on the unvaccinated. 

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13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Okay. You made the claim, now let's see you back it up.

Find an objective 3rd party that doesn't back his claim. 

That's your own debating tactic, I'm sure you can handle it. 

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47 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

1. Find an objective 3rd party that doesn't back his claim. 

2.That's your own debating tactic, I'm sure you can handle it. 

1.  Hahaha.  No.  You made a claim, now back it up.

2. No I didn't use that tactic in a debate, I challenged you to find me one that supported a video you were promoting. We weren't debating  anything, other than my opinion the conspiracy theories like yours are a waste of my time. And that's an opinion, not a claim of fact

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36 minutes ago, West said:

Nonsense. The police were the ones directing traffick. If an individual trucker was not obeying the rules of the road that's on them not someone else. 

The fact they are trying to pin someone else honking their horn on Tamara Lich is a prime illustration of how political this nonsense is. 

Nice try.

Get a better youtube reporter LOL

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6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1.  Hahaha.  No.  You made a claim, now back it up.

2. No I didn't use that tactic in a debate, I challenged you to find me one and supported a video you were promoting. We weren't debating  anything, other than my opinion the conspiracy theories like yours are a waste of my time. And that's an opinion, not a claim of fact

None of this group can ever do that Mike LOL

The half dozen of them feed off each other and spin stories and even believe their own made up stuff. After all,why would they lie to each other, they need each others support  LOL

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14 hours ago, eyeball said:

The erosion of any human freedom and fundamental right around the planet that could be linked to 9/11 and terrorism was embraced, cheered on and encouraged by the very same people who've cried like babies over having to wear a face diaper.

If I have to explain the difference to you then you obviously won't understand it. Let's just leave it at "Most people understand how important it is to take drastic measures against terrorism, and those same measures aren't warranted in every other circumstance known to man."

Of course I know that you won't understand that, but it still needed to be said. 

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Certainly in terms of deaths.  If Americans had taken COVID as seriously as they did 9/11 I suspect the death toll might have been kept down in the low hundreds and perhaps even just tens of thousands of deaths.  I mean contrast the immediate reaction to 9/11 in terms of banning flights into America to the so-called banning in reaction to COVID.  I'll grant that America had valid reason to believe the attack it was under on 9/11 might be bigger than it was or even military in nature. 

Anyone familiar with the topic of covid in the US knows that there were only 5 Americans killed by covid when Trump blocked people who had been to China in the past 14 days from flying to the US.

Anyone familiar with the topic of covid in the US knows that there were less than 100 Americans killed by covid when Trump shut down a large part of the economy.

By contrast, the WHO was busy telling the world that H2H wasn't happening and that they shouldn't be blocking flights, which turned out to be a catastrophic mistake. People like DeBlasio and Pelosi were telling people to ride the subway like normal and hug people in large crowds, Trudeau left Canada open to flights from China, Gov Cuomo won an Emmy for bragging about his covid awesomeness while he was sendng infected people into care homes and then fudging the death tolls to hide the care home massacre. 

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So given that what are we to make of all the hooey about COVID being a potential bioweapon?

Given that everything that you said was hooey, the likelihood of covid being a potential bioweapon remains unchanged. 

Extremely intelligent people have been acknowledging the possibility that covid was a bioweapon right from the beginning of the covid outbreak. Check my history here if you don't believe me.

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Yeah well, Democrats have always been and still are to the right of Canada's more serious conservative parties. Extra-legal drone attacks and assassinations all increased on Obama's watch.

Democrats are far to the left of conservatives, supporting policies like free medical and dental for illegal immigrants, paying off student loans, free tuition, free housing, etc. FYI those are conservative vs liberal issues. 

The fact that Obama was into drone-striking people has nothing to do with liberal or conservative policy. You're trying to plunk the price of corn onto a graph of drinking & driving arrests and acting like it means something. 

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16 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1.  Hahaha.  No.  You made a claim, now back it up.

No, Dinesh made a claim, and people who watched the movie were talking about its content in a thread about the movie. 

You refused to watch it, tried to discourage others from watching it, and then your best argument against it was "You can't find an objective 3rd party that supports it" lol.

Your debate tactic of just saying "find an objective 3rd party that supports it" is just a way of saying "I have no leg to stand on, but I challenge you to find something that meets my approval."

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2. No I didn't use that tactic in a debate, I challenged you to find me one and supported a video you were promoting. We weren't debating  anything, other than my opinion the conspiracy theories like yours are a waste of my time. And that's an opinion, not a claim of fact

Yeah, you did. 

By your own admission you didn't watch the movie but you felt the need to weigh in against it, and to discourage others from watching it, and your best argument was "I have no leg to stand on, but I challenge you to find something that meets my approval."

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5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

No, Dinesh made a claim, and people who watched the movie were talking about its content in a thread about the movie. 

You refused to watch it, tried to discourage others from watching it, and then your best argument against it was "You can't find an objective 3rd party that supports it" lol.

Your debate tactic of just saying "find an objective 3rd party that supports it" is just a way of saying "I have no leg to stand on, but I challenge you to find something that meets my approval."

Yeah, you did. 

By your own admission you didn't watch the movie but you felt the need to weigh in against it, and to discourage others from watching it, and your best argument was "I have no leg to stand on, but I challenge you to find something that meets my approval."

The common leftist debate tactic is when they can't refute, resort to attacking the person. Or they say nothing was found in their approved sources therefore its false. A fallacy i know but is what it is

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25 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Nice try.

Get a better youtube reporter LOL

Nonsense. The letters and text messages are what's called evidence. There was no illegal blockade as you've said as the police directed traffic and shut down the area

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