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59 minutes ago, ironstone said:

I ask this question because many opponents of this recent decision are making very strong claims like the US is going back to the dark ages and so on. It seems there are more restrictions on abortion in Europe as compared to the US yet it doesn't seem to be as contentious an issue over there.

They need drama and histrionics because common sense doesn't appeal to their base. 

Screaming, hysterical girls are leftist porn. 

"Look how much this 17-yr-old cares about this issue. You should be freaking out too!"

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15 minutes ago, West said:

Would be the same if she was driving intoxicated causing death to a two year old or if she fed her child meth causing an overdose. 

Thank you now you get it. 

So she gets in a fender bender or falls off a bicycle. Guilty of manslaughter. You aren't pro life, you are pro punishment. Especially since it could never happen to you regardless of how careless or bad behaved you are. Women's got to be punished. 

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7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

So she gets in a fender bender or falls off a bicycle. Guilty of manslaughter. You aren't pro life, you are pro punishment. Especially since it could never happen to you regardless of how careless or bad behaved you are. Women's got to be punished. 

Would that happen in real life? Likely not.. unless you could prove the mother was driving with undue care and attention causing death to her child. 

I'm actually pro life. I don't think you should get a pass if you drive wrecklessly causing the death of someone else. 

You seem to just want no rules, anything goes. Party as much as you want. Take as much drugs as you want. Have as much sex as you want. Drive carelessly. If anyone says anything THEY are the ones with the issue, ie whites are bad. Take no accountability for your actions. Life means squat to you. As long as it feels good do it without any regard for others. Its sad really

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11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

They need drama and histrionics because common sense doesn't appeal to their base. 

Screaming, hysterical girls are leftist porn. 

"Look how much this 17-yr-old cares about this issue. You should be freaking out too!"

Believe it or not I used to be a leftist until common sense kicked in. 

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38 minutes ago, herbie said:

Geez if you could ever stop your mindless raving and let what you read sink through your dim, milk like perception, it would be perfectly obvious I'm NOT and American and would never want to be.

Nor am I...

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8 minutes ago, West said:

Would that happen in real life?

In one of those stories, a woman was indicted for manslaughter because her partner shot her in the belly.  The reason she was indicted - because she started the fight.

So yeah, it can happen in real life.

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25 minutes ago, West said:

Murdering babies isn't a civil right.

See the dictionary or my previous post as to what babies are. Or a law book.

Or just keep repeating yourself and it will become true.  You know, as the Soviets used to say "if most people believe it, it's obviously the truth".

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6 minutes ago, dialamah said:

In one of those stories, a woman was indicted for manslaughter because her partner shot her in the belly.  The reason she was indicted - because she started the fight.

So yeah, it can happen in real life.

Lol.. don't think that happened. Just fear mongering. 

If you are a man and you kill your pregnant wife in the US you are doing a double homicide sentence. You think that's illegitimate too?

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1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

If you're not a socialist at 18 you don't have a heart. If you're not a conservative at 30 you don't have a brain. 

Yes exactly. You are a socialist until you have a mortgage. Then you wonder why you are paying for everyone else's stuff. 

You wanna kill your babies? I guess it's a right (no matter how sick) in Canada but I shouldn't have to pay for it  

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51 minutes ago, West said:

Yes exactly. You are a socialist until you have a mortgage. Then you wonder why you are paying for everyone else's stuff. 

You wanna kill your babies? I guess it's a right (no matter how sick) in Canada but I shouldn't have to pay for it  

Trumpsters give conservatives a bad name. They have formed a cult and called themselves conservatives.

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1 hour ago, West said:

Would that happen in real life? Likely not.. unless you could prove the mother was driving with undue care and attention causing death to her child. 

I'm actually pro life. I don't think you should get a pass if you drive wrecklessly causing the death of someone else. 

You seem to just want no rules, anything goes. Party as much as you want. Take as much drugs as you want. Have as much sex as you want. Drive carelessly. If anyone says anything THEY are the ones with the issue, ie whites are bad. Take no accountability for your actions. Life means squat to you. As long as it feels good do it without any regard for others. Its sad really

If a guy hits a car driven by a women and she has a miscarriage, he will not be charged with manslaughter and you know it. You want rules for women that don't apply to you.

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16 minutes ago, Aristides said:

If a guy hits a car driven by a women and she has a miscarriage, he will not be charged with manslaughter and you know it. You want rules for women that don't apply to you.

Maybe he should be if he kills two

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1 minute ago, Aristides said:

What kind of answer is that?  According to you, If the woman has a miscarriage he should be charged with manslaughter .

If a man drives drunk and kills a woman and her child he should be charged x2. 

I believe the baby is a person from the moment of conception. I.e we already recognize that if you drug your 1 year old child to death you'll be charged. I move that same logic back to time of conception or at least until the woman knows she's pregnant then she has a duty of care. 

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Just now, West said:

If a man drives drunk and kills a woman and her child he should be charged x2. 

I believe the baby is a person from the moment of conception. I.e we already recognize that if you drug your 1 year old child to death you'll be charged. I move that same logic back to time of conception or at least until the woman knows she's pregnant then she has a duty of care. 

That is vehicular homicide.

Still dancing. If there is a fender bender (no crime involved) and a woman has a miscarriage. If she is at fault, she should be charged with manslaughter. If the man is at fault, shouldn't he as well? It's a simple question, why can't you answer it?

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1 minute ago, Aristides said:

That is vehicular homicide.

Still dancing. If there is a fender bender (no crime involved) and a woman has a miscarriage. If she is at fault, she should be charged with manslaughter. If the man is at fault, shouldn't he as well? It's a simple question, why can't you answer it?

Why would she be? Is she charged now or do you have to prove negligence? 

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9 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Equal under the law to be charged with manslaughter if their actions caused a woman to have a miscarriage.

I've already answered this.. 

If you can prove negligence or other illegal activity causing bodily harm or death to a baby inside the womb, should be treated as if they are outside the womb with same consequences to the perpetrator. Whether that's the mother or otherwise. 

If it's just a woman having a miscarriage and there's no malice involved then why would she be punished? Should be treated as a natural death 

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12 minutes ago, West said:

I've already answered this.. 

If you can prove negligence or other illegal activity causing bodily harm or death to a baby inside the womb, should be treated as if they are outside the womb with same consequences to the perpetrator. Whether that's the mother or otherwise. 

If it's just a woman having a miscarriage and there's no malice involved then why would she be punished? Should be treated as a natural death 

Yet you know that won't happen. If an addict has a miscarriage there is no malice involved, she is an addict. If an alcoholic has a miscarriage, there is no malice involved, she is an addict. What is it you don't understand about addiction?

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1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Yet you know that won't happen. If an addict has a miscarriage there is no malice involved, she is an addict. If an alcoholic has a miscarriage, there is no malice involved, she is an addict. What is it you don't understand about addiction?

What about a woman who puts drugs in her child's bottle? Let it slide?

They have a responsibility to seek help and protect the vulnerable

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1 minute ago, Aristides said:

WTF are you talking about?

If she's an addict and slips something into her kids bottle.. sure you will stand up for the mom in that case too... nobody has to take responsibility if they are a left winger. They are the "victim"

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