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6 minutes ago, Oksanna said:

People who don't like America. You know.. traitors.

Like whom? I'm not the one cheerleading for the destruction being experienced from the Biden presidency. 

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9 minutes ago, Oksanna said:

If you still support the republican party, you are actively working to destroy America.

Oh my...I get it. Silly me...I should have realized you're nothing but an AOC clone.

Have a warm and fuzzy day Dear...

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2 hours ago, Oksanna said:

Ive seen a lot of discussion on it, since it's a loud noisy topic,

That noise is the screaming that you're pretending not to hear.

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and probably the entire reason musk is doing this is for all that attention.

No one knows what his real reasons are but him. He claimed that he's doing it to help democracy, so there's that. Then there's the fact that if he makes it what it once was it's value could go back up to $70/share. Maybe more. 

Is he doing this for "attention"? The attention has brought on unwanted attention from the DOJ, because the Dems want anything but free speech. I doubt that's a bonus for him.

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(Remember there are no policies on the right, everything is about being a troll).

Oh that's so keeyyyute! But incredibly stupid. 

For starters your whole shtick is a huge troll-job (comments like "I don't see leftists freaking out" and the one right above).

FYI the whole last election in the US was about policy from the GOP. Trump's policies were extremely successful, his demeanour was the only thing that was sub-par. The left didn't have any policies aside from "ORANGE MAN BAD! VACCINES BAD (until we're elected)!

What have Biden's "policies" brought the US? An insane spike in violent crime, homelessness, record-level inflation, illegal immigration that's off the charts, Fentanyl, property crimes, a war in Ukraine....

He's the worst president in the history of the US and it's not even close. The US is just a country of 330,000, it's not really all that special. They're 3rd or 4th largest, they have 1/4 the population of China and India, their education system lags behind European and Asian countries and their politics are toxic. America isn't destined to be #1 forever, it requires some effort, and electing people like Biden is effort in the wrong direction

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As for free speech, twitter isn't great, but musk isn't very smart, and he's a lot more impulsive than what twitter tends to be now. We have seen facebook cause literal genocide through negligent monitoring of it's platform, so it's not like the worst thing in the world is twitter not amplifying your favorite personal conspiracy theory.

More trolling lol, but whatever.

Sadly in this day and age, most disinformation comes from the alt-left MSM. Sandman, Smollett, Dr Ford, Russian collusion, Ukrainian collusion, covid disinformation, whipgate, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc were all idiotic farces that were visible right out of the gate and they all came from the MSM. 

The conspiracy theories of yesterday have become today's common knowledge and the MSM isn't apologizing as fast as they're lying. That's why losing control of Twitter was such a big deal for them. Their narratives can't withstand exposure to light.

They left needs censorship because the sheeple are like mushrooms - they need to be kept in the dark with a constant supply of bullshit. 

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Musk also won't just open the floodgates. He's probably not going to allow gay porn for example (always a good test for free speech). He will ban people, he will control the flow of speech, it will just be based more on his own personal preferences.

I'm going to let Musk get into a groove before i start condemning him. Twitter needed what Musk is promising, we'll see if he delivers. 

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12 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Stop pretending you don't see it.

Leftists have the unique ability to censor things from their own mind. 

If that fails, Don Lemon got one of Will Smith's pens from the MIB movie, and with one click he can erase pesky, truthful memories from the sheeple and replace them with platitudes & unsubstantiated allegations. 

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On 4/30/2022 at 11:01 AM, Oksanna said:

If you still support the republican party, you are actively working to destroy America.

Is it true you and jbander are among the last 8 or 9 misguided souls still watching CNN? I could almost swear on it.

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On 4/30/2022 at 12:01 PM, WestCanMan said:

That noise is the screaming that you're pretending not to hear.

No one knows what his real reasons are but him. He claimed that he's doing it to help democracy, so there's that. Then there's the fact that if he makes it what it once was it's value could go back up to $70/share. Maybe more. 

Is he doing this for "attention"? The attention has brought on unwanted attention from the DOJ, because the Dems want anything but free speech. I doubt that's a bonus for him.

Oh that's so keeyyyute! But incredibly stupid. 

For starters your whole shtick is a huge troll-job (comments like "I don't see leftists freaking out" and the one right above).

FYI the whole last election in the US was about policy from the GOP. Trump's policies were extremely successful, his demeanour was the only thing that was sub-par. The left didn't have any policies aside from "ORANGE MAN BAD! VACCINES BAD (until we're elected)!

What have Biden's "policies" brought the US? An insane spike in violent crime, homelessness, record-level inflation, illegal immigration that's off the charts, Fentanyl, property crimes, a war in Ukraine....

He's the worst president in the history of the US and it's not even close. The US is just a country of 330,000, it's not really all that special. They're 3rd or 4th largest, they have 1/4 the population of China and India, their education system lags behind European and Asian countries and their politics are toxic. America isn't destined to be #1 forever, it requires some effort, and electing people like Biden is effort in the wrong direction

More trolling lol, but whatever.

Sadly in this day and age, most disinformation comes from the alt-left MSM. Sandman, Smollett, Dr Ford, Russian collusion, Ukrainian collusion, covid disinformation, whipgate, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc were all idiotic farces that were visible right out of the gate and they all came from the MSM. 

The conspiracy theories of yesterday have become today's common knowledge and the MSM isn't apologizing as fast as they're lying. That's why losing control of Twitter was such a big deal for them. Their narratives can't withstand exposure to light.

They left needs censorship because the sheeple are like mushrooms - they need to be kept in the dark with a constant supply of bullshit. 

I'm going to let Musk get into a groove before i start condemning him. Twitter needed what Musk is promising, we'll see if he delivers. 

Alright, I'm not going point by point, but some highilights:

There has been wall to wall discussion on right wing media about how the left is loosing it's mind. I spend a lot of time on right wing media, and there is tons of that. There is definitely some hand wringing on the left, but much less than the right.

There's mtg, boebert, trump, desantis, johnson, kennedy, gaetz, and on and on and on... None of them have any real policies. Their entire governance model is 'piss off people who care about human beings and America.' That's it .They are trolls. There is not an equivalent on the left of any of those trolls.

Finally, when one of the super privileged white dudes who own your brain do something they are obviously insanely unqualified for like trump or musk, you guys have no end of leeway you are going to give them. When it's an overqualified black woman, you have none. Why is that huh?

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4 hours ago, Oksanna said:

Alright, I'm not going point by point, but some highilights:

There has been wall to wall discussion on right wing media about how the left is loosing it's mind. I spend a lot of time on right wing media, and there is tons of that. There is definitely some hand wringing on the left, but much less than the right.

Ummmm, the leftists government just created a ministry of propaganda. They're not takng this lightly at all. They're in freakout mode.

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There's mtg, boebert, trump, desantis, johnson, kennedy, gaetz, and on and on and on... None of them have any real policies. Their entire governance model is 'piss off people who care about human beings and America.'

That was just ludicrous and stupid. You think that just because someone doesn't run around screaming "EVERYTHING IS RACIST! WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE ENTIRE COUNTRY!" they don't have 'policies'. FYI America was doing exceptionally well, they didn't need a complete overhaul.

How's Biden's 'overhaul' going? Quite swimmingly for you I guess, hey?

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That's it .They are trolls. There is not an equivalent on the left of any of those trolls.

Just because they're pointing out the abject stupidity of leftists does't make them trolls.

Thanks to Elon it will no longer be a crime to tell the truth soon. 

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Finally, when one of the super privileged white dudes who own your brain do something they are obviously insanely unqualified for like trump or musk, you guys have no end of leeway you are going to give them.

LMAO!

 Who is more privileged than the Bidens or Trudeaus? You know, the families who run scams left and right while the media and the federal police forces are busy accusing other people of things that they didn't do....

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When it's an overqualified black woman, you have none. Why is that huh?

What leeway are we supposed to have for an 'overqualified black woman'? Who tf are you talking about? 

Is Dr Lewis and 'overqualified black woman' in your estimation? No doubt she's the female equivalent of an "uncle Tom" in your books, eh "Oksanna"? 

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47 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Ummmm, the leftists government just created a ministry of propaganda. They're not takng this lightly at all. They're in freakout mode.

That was just ludicrous and stupid. You think that just because someone doesn't run around screaming "EVERYTHING IS RACIST! WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE ENTIRE COUNTRY!" they don't have 'policies'. FYI America was doing exceptionally well, they didn't need a complete overhaul.

How's Biden's 'overhaul' going? Quite swimmingly for you I guess, hey?

Just because they're pointing out the abject stupidity of leftists does't make them trolls.

Thanks to Elon it will no longer be a crime to tell the truth soon. 

LMAO!

 Who is more privileged than the Bidens or Trudeaus? You know, the families who run scams left and right while the media and the federal police forces are busy accusing other people of things that they didn't do....

What leeway are we supposed to have for an 'overqualified black woman'? Who tf are you talking about? 

Is Dr Lewis and 'overqualified black woman' in your estimation? No doubt she's the female equivalent of an "uncle Tom" in your books, eh "Oksanna"? 

Tackling disinformation is not propaganda (and to be fair, what else is fox news?). We have seen real life genocide because of facebook, and the right-wing propaganda fever dream you guys live in caused thousands of idiots to literally try to overthrow the government. Given exactly 0 evidence, a significant number of people in America want to overturn the last election. A country cannot and will not survive like that. You yourself are a victim of the disinformation war on America. It will do what no hitler or southern state ever could hope to do: Destroy America.

Considering Biden was handed the toughest situation from the worst president in history, he's doing pretty damned well. Most of the problems we have today are because of covid, you aren't American, so you don't understand these things.

Elon is nothing special. He's just a regular dude, and he's not going to save you. Mostly because most of what you want saved from doesn't really exist.

Well, trump and Elon are far more privledged then either Biden or Trudeau. But I was talking about justice Jackson. You are right, it was ridiculous of me to simply refer to an overqualified black woman the right hates and expect you to know which I meant..

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12 hours ago, Oksanna said:

Tackling disinformation is not propaganda

Do you think that the Dems are interested in tackling disinformation? You know that you're talking about the people who screamed "RUSSIAN COLLUSION" for four years, right? What interest do they have in tackling disinformation? Their own talking points re:

Dr Ford - disinformation.

Don't say gay - disinformation.

Smollett - disinformation.

Brionna - disinformation.

Mostly peaceful riots - disinformation.

Defund police will save our cities - disinformation.

We never said defund - disinformation.

Sandman - disinformation.

Waukesha car crash - disinformation.

No bioweapons in Ukraine - disinformation.

The laptop is Russian disinformation - disinformation. 

Saying BSL4 is stupid - disinformation. 

Whipgate - disinformation. 

Trump said "all immigrants are animals" - disinformation. 

Women and children were tear-gassed at the border - disinformation. 

We're not incentivizing illegal immigration - disinformation. 

The WHO handled covid well - disinformation. 

Pandemic of the unvaccinated - disinformation. 

Saying bioweapons research lab in Ukraine is disinformation - disinformation. 

NATO encroachment has nothing to do with the war in Ukraine - disinformation. 

Ignoring Cuomo's covid murders and cover-up was disinformation. 

 

Of course, as a leftist, you're gonna say that the Dems were really stupid enough to believe some of those things, but we both know that you'll be lying when you do. I'm a pretty smart guy but I'm not smarter than the entire Dem party and their brain trust. They knew these thingslong before I did, but they kept pushing their disinformation and allowing people to be banned from social media for saying things that the Dems knew ere true. 

 

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(and to be fair, what else is fox news?).

What is Fox News, Oksana? Can you tell me some of the lies and disinformation that they spread during the time frame noted above? Go look at every topic covered there and you'll see that the Fox News coverage aged far better than anyone else's. 

Watch Tucker Carlson vs Joy Reaid or Rachel Maddow from any day in the last 4 years and you'll be disgusted that you were ever dumb enough to act liek Fox News is the disinformer out there.

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the right-wing propaganda fever dream you guys live in caused thousands of idiots to literally try to overthrow the government. Given exactly 0 evidence, a significant number of people in America want to overturn the last election.

First off, the Jan 6th thing wasn't nearly as big as it was made out to be. Less than 200 people from a country where 70M people voted for Trump went into the capitol. Trump had approved the use of the Nat Guard before Jan 6th happened but Nancy Pelosi wanted to use it as a photo op. 

Second, there's lots of evidence that the 2020 election was bogus, you just don't want to acknowledge it.

The Dems' insistence that mail-in ballots were as safe as can be seems kind of weird now that they accused Orban of using mail-in ballots just to rig his own election. CNN's election-night confirmation that the 2020 election was legitimate seemed kind of weird, considering that they "believed" that the 2016 election was illegimtae for 4 entire years. 

Did you miss the 4 years of leftist propaganda claiming that the 2016 election result was bogus, Oksana? 4 full years of lies, Oksana. If mail-in-gate was hyped as much as Russian collusion was we'd still be in the part where it dominated the news 24/7 and people were still pretending that they knew for sure that it was real, and that new bombshell evidence was coming out this weekend. Dem associates would be getting arrested in pre-dawn raids by the FBI, with news crews just mysteriously being there, and the CIA and FBI would be actively destroying people's lives even when they knew that they were innocent. 

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A country cannot and will not survive like that. You yourself are a victim of the disinformation war on America.

Oksanna, there's not a leftist on earth that can make accusations against conservatives of disinformation with a straight face. Leftists are liars through and through. There's not a single major news event of the last 7 years that leftists didn't primarily lie about. All of thse stories unravelled but leftists don't care because they're busy getting sucked in by the next lies, and propagating them. 

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It will do what no hitler or southern state ever could hope to do: Destroy America.

The destruction of America is well underway right now, thanks to Biden and his minions. 

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Considering Biden was handed the toughest situation from the worst president in history, he's doing pretty damned well. Most of the problems we have today are because of covid, you aren't American, so

That's just more of your own stupidity right there. America was doing great under Trump. The economy was booming, he cleared up islamic state (Biden and Obama's fault) years faster than Obama thought possible. Trump didn't start any new wars. Afghanistan was de-escalated. Almost no US soldiers were killed while Trump was POTUS. Israel normalized relations wth an Arabic country. If it wasn't for covid coming, Trump's presidency would have been one of the greatest 4-year periods in American history, and Trump handled covid far better than Trudeau did, but the covid was the biggest disinformation campaign in history. Cuomo got an Emmy for putting infected people into care homes and fudging the resulting death tolls there, Trump was called a bugler for correctly identifying the source of covid and taking the proper measures to contain and fight it. 

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you don't understand these things.

1) Everything that you understand and I don't would fit in a nutshell and rattle.

2) We both understand these things, I'm just telling you the truth about them. 

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Elon is nothing special. He's just a regular dude, and he's not going to save you. Mostly because most of what you want saved from doesn't really exist.

Elon won't save free speech because the US gov't (Dems) is against him. Their disinformation is the key to their existence. Without disinformation the Dems would literally cease to exist. An entirely new party would have to be created to face off against the GOP.

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Well, trump and Elon are far more privledged then either Biden or Trudeau.

That's blatantly untrue. Biden and Trudeau are known liars, hucksters and scumbags and the media and gov't won't touch them. Investigations into Trump and Musk are commonplace even though they keep coming up empty. 

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But I was talking about justice Jackson. .

When you said "overqualified" you were referring to the woman who was an appellate judge for less than a year before she was fast-tracked to the SC, purely based on her skin colour? Really? 

The one who thinks that pedophilia and sharing a vast trove of kiddie porn should only be a 3 month prison term? Is that in line with your values, Oksanna? Do you think that child pornography is no big deal, or that America's laws & justice system consider child pornography to be no big deal? 

You just go ahead and say that "I, Oksanna, believe that Kiddie porn is OK" and I'll believe that you feel like Jackson is a legit SCJ. 

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You are right, it was ridiculous of me to simply refer to an overqualified black woman the right hates and expect you to know which I meant..

Of course I'm right, that was a given if you've seen my history here. My posts age well, thanks.

Fact is, when you refer to "overqualified" black woman, KBJ doesn't fit the bill, at all. And f you wanna talk about "overqualified", there are lots of overqualified judges, and most of them can interpret the laws and the spirit of the meaning of the laws against child pornography. Just because you're ok with child pornography doesn't mean that the laws on the books reflect that..

An example of an "overqualified black woman" is Dr Leslyn Lewis. Maybe you should start following her if you want to single out black women for some reason. 

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58 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Do you think that the Dems are interested in tackling disinformation? You know that you're talking about the people who screamed "RUSSIAN COLLUSION" for four years, right? What interest do they have in tackling disinformation? Their own talking points re:

Dr Ford - disinformation.

Don't say gay - disinformation.

Smollett - disinformation.

Brionna - disinformation.

Mostly peaceful riots - disinformation.

Defund police will save our cities - disinformation.

We never said defund - disinformation.

Sandman - disinformation.

Waukesha car crash - disinformation.

No bioweapons in Ukraine - disinformation.

The laptop is Russian disinformation - disinformation. 

Saying BSL4 is stupid - disinformation. 

Whipgate - disinformation. 

Trump said "all immigrants are animals" - disinformation. 

Women and children were tear-gassed at the border - disinformation. 

We're not incentivizing illegal immigration - disinformation. 

The WHO handled covid well - disinformation. 

Pandemic of the unvaccinated - disinformation. 

Saying bioweapons research lab in Ukraine is disinformation - disinformation. 

NATO encroachment has nothing to do with the war in Ukraine - disinformation. 

Ignoring Cuomo's covid murders and cover-up was disinformation. 

 

Of course, as a leftist, you're gonna say that the Dems were really stupid enough to believe some of those things, but we both know that you'll be lying when you do. I'm a pretty smart guy but I'm not smarter than the entire Dem party and their brain trust. They knew these thingslong before I did, but they kept pushing their disinformation and allowing people to be banned from social media for saying things that the Dems knew ere true. 

 

What is Fox News, Oksana? Can you tell me some of the lies and disinformation that they spread during the time frame noted above? Go look at every topic covered there and you'll see that the Fox News coverage aged far better than anyone else's. 

Watch Tucker Carlson vs Joy Reaid or Rachel Maddow from any day in the last 4 years and you'll be disgusted that you were ever dumb enough to act liek Fox News is the disinformer out there.

First off, the Jan 6th thing wasn't nearly as big as it was made out to be. Less than 200 people from a country where 70M people voted for Trump went into the capitol. Trump had approved the use of the Nat Guard before Jan 6th happened but Nancy Pelosi wanted to use it as a photo op. 

Second, there's lots of evidence that the 2020 election was bogus, you just don't want to acknowledge it.

The Dems' insistence that mail-in ballots were as safe as can be seems kind of weird now that they accused Orban of using mail-in ballots just to rig his own election. CNN's election-night confirmation that the 2020 election was legitimate seemed kind of weird, considering that they "believed" that the 2016 election was illegimtae for 4 entire years. 

Did you miss the 4 years of leftist propaganda claiming that the 2016 election result was bogus, Oksana? 4 full years of lies, Oksana. If mail-in-gate was hyped as much as Russian collusion was we'd still be in the part where it dominated the news 24/7 and people were still pretending that they knew for sure that it was real, and that new bombshell evidence was coming out this weekend. Dem associates would be getting arrested in pre-dawn raids by the FBI, with news crews just mysteriously being there, and the CIA and FBI would be actively destroying people's lives even when they knew that they were innocent. 

Oksanna, there's not a leftist on earth that can make accusations against conservatives of disinformation with a straight face. Leftists are liars through and through. There's not a single major news event of the last 7 years that leftists didn't primarily lie about. All of thse stories unravelled but leftists don't care because they're busy getting sucked in by the next lies, and propagating them. 

The destruction of America is well underway right now, thanks to Biden and his minions. 

That's just more of your own stupidity right there. America was doing great under Trump. The economy was booming, he cleared up islamic state (Biden and Obama's fault) years faster than Obama thought possible. Trump didn't start any new wars. Afghanistan was de-escalated. Almost no US soldiers were killed while Trump was POTUS. Israel normalized relations wth an Arabic country. If it wasn't for covid coming, Trump's presidency would have been one of the greatest 4-year periods in American history, and Trump handled covid far better than Trudeau did, but the covid was the biggest disinformation campaign in history. Cuomo got an Emmy for putting infected people into care homes and fudging the resulting death tolls there, Trump was called a bugler for correctly identifying the source of covid and taking the proper measures to contain and fight it. 

1) Everything that you understand and I don't would fit in a nutshell and rattle.

2) We both understand these things, I'm just telling you the truth about them. 

Elon won't save free speech because the US gov't (Dems) is against him. Their disinformation is the key to their existence. Without disinformation the Dems would literally cease to exist. An entirely new party would have to be created to face off against the GOP.

That's blatantly untrue. Biden and Trudeau are known liars, hucksters and scumbags and the media and gov't won't touch them. Investigations into Trump and Musk are commonplace even though they keep coming up empty. 

When you said "overqualified" you were referring to the woman who was an appellate judge for less than a year before she was fast-tracked to the SC, purely based on her skin colour? Really? 

The one who thinks that pedophilia and sharing a vast trove of kiddie porn should only be a 3 month prison term? Is that in line with your values, Oksanna? Do you think that child pornography is no big deal, or that America's laws & justice system consider child pornography to be no big deal? 

You just go ahead and say that "I, Oksanna, believe that Kiddie porn is OK" and I'll believe that you feel like Jackson is a legit SCJ. 

Of course I'm right, that was a given if you've seen my history here. My posts age well, thanks.

Fact is, when you refer to "overqualified" black woman, KBJ doesn't fit the bill, at all. And f you wanna talk about "overqualified", there are lots of overqualified judges, and most of them can interpret the laws and the spirit of the meaning of the laws against child pornography. Just because you're ok with child pornography doesn't mean that the laws on the books reflect that..

An example of an "overqualified black woman" is Dr Leslyn Lewis. Maybe you should start following her if you want to single out black women for some reason. 

So, once again, I'm not going to try to follow the gish gallop, so let's try two points around disinformation:

Do you believe that the vaccine was effective?

Do you think the 'groomer' narrative is not disinformation?

 

also, here is fox news being a propaganda arm of the trump administration:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mark-meadows-texts-reveal-fox-news-sean-hannity-took-direct-orders-from-team-trump-on-campaign-coverage

 

 

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19 hours ago, Oksanna said:

Do you think ratings are any particular reflection of a news organizations accuracy?

You might want to check with the rest of your group on this.....they have all consistently argued that Yes! If it's popular, it's reliable!  In fact, they refuse to even read anything that doesn't have the popular MSM stamp on it.

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18 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You might want to check with the rest of your group on this.....they have all consistently argued that Yes! If it's popular, it's reliable!  In fact, they refuse to even read anything that doesn't have the popular MSM stamp on it.

Are you perhaps confusing 'popular' and 'good ratings' with 'expert consensus?'

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58 minutes ago, Oksanna said:

So, once again, I'm not going to try to follow the gish gallop,

Once again, I have bullets and you have narratives.

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so let's try two points around disinformation:

Do you believe that the vaccine was effective?

The pseudo-vax was not effective enough to warrant the mandates, 100%. It helped somewhat, but it is not a vaccine. 

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Do you think the 'groomer' narrative is not disinformation?

What is the groomer narrative? I'm not familiar with the leftist branding.

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I could have told you that Hannity gets some of his walking orders from Trump, but he's not lying for Trump. That's the difference between Fox/Trump and CNN/Biden.

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3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Once again, I have bullets and you have narratives.

The pseudo-vax was not effective enough to warrant the mandates, 100%. It helped somewhat, but it is not a vaccine. 

What is the groomer narrative? I'm not familiar with the leftist branding.

I could have told you that Hannity gets some of his walking orders from Trump, but he's not lying for Trump. That's the difference between Fox/Trump and CNN/Biden.

ok, why do you think it wasn't 'effective enough?' What would be? Why do you think it's not a vaccine?

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4 minutes ago, Goddess said:

No.  I'm saying they equate popular and good ratings with expert reporting.

Well, I've never seen that. Because fox news has the best msm ratings, conservatives like to flaunt that. And on webistes like breitbart, you will see nonstop discussion of ratings. I've never seen any liberals talking about it. I HAVE seen discussion of how popular policies are.

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11 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Well, you just got here.

There are quite a few here who won't believe anything unless the CBC or CTV or Global reports it.  And they reject without even considering any source other than MSM.

Well, in fact, the comment you initially responded to me on was a response to someone implying cnn wasn't reliable because it's viewership is hurting.

Now, one should be very skeptical of random news sources, especially if they are hyper partisan. For example, you should reject out of hand pretty much anything from infowars.

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51 minutes ago, Oksanna said:

ok, why do you think it wasn't 'effective enough?' What would be? Why do you think it's not a vaccine?

Because so many 2x and 3x vaxed people died, and got sick enough to spread covid.

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vac·cine  -  /vakˈsēn/  - noun

 
  1. a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

 

No immunity, not a "vaccine". 

 

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On 4/28/2022 at 6:37 PM, Infidel Dog said:

Now I think I know why BiDumb started up this new DHS disinformation department? To prepare to attack Twitter for anything that may appear to be dis or misinformation that they may find to be very naughty and very offensive conservative like comments on Twitter.

Or in other words, you may own Twitter, Mr. Musk but we will still control the content and comments said on Twitter. The government will be watching you, Mr. Musk. 

These globalist fascists that are permanently established in the democratic party and government in America will never stop trying to censor free speech of the conservative kind. For now our side may be enjoying themselves, but the fight is not over with just yet because those fascists are not finished with us all just yet. BiDumb has 6 months left to try and turn America into a globalist censorship fascist country. Hey, we never know, eh? ?

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3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Do you think that the Dems are interested in tackling disinformation? You know that you're talking about the people who screamed "RUSSIAN COLLUSION" for four years, right? What interest do they have in tackling disinformation? Their own talking points re:

Dr Ford - disinformation.

Don't say gay - disinformation.

Smollett - disinformation.

Brionna - disinformation.

Mostly peaceful riots - disinformation.

Defund police will save our cities - disinformation.

We never said defund - disinformation.

Sandman - disinformation.

Waukesha car crash - disinformation.

No bioweapons in Ukraine - disinformation.

The laptop is Russian disinformation - disinformation. 

Saying BSL4 is stupid - disinformation. 

Whipgate - disinformation. 

Trump said "all immigrants are animals" - disinformation. 

Women and children were tear-gassed at the border - disinformation. 

We're not incentivizing illegal immigration - disinformation. 

The WHO handled covid well - disinformation. 

Pandemic of the unvaccinated - disinformation. 

Saying bioweapons research lab in Ukraine is disinformation - disinformation. 

NATO encroachment has nothing to do with the war in Ukraine - disinformation. 

Ignoring Cuomo's covid murders and cover-up was disinformation. 

I personally think you should have stopped there and saved the rest (although factual) for later. Watered down the truth of the important facts above.

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