What drives the right with their attack on the critical race theory.

[Army Guy]

18 minutes ago, jbander1A said:

Do you realize how ridiculous your made up scenarios are and the number of people that are saying this puppy is a wacko. Every teacher if unprofessional could do many things like force their religion on their class or force their White supremacist Ideas on the class or force their anti abortions ideas on their students , or promote xenophobia , chauvinism, hate and bigotry on their students and buddy those right wing driving issues are a hell of a lot more dangerous then teaching a class about racism. Do you realize how absolutely ridiculous you trivia comment is compared a a real threat.

OK sure it is ridiculous to think that one classroom or one school could go in the direction of the many examples i provided. to which has already happened in the states, and here in Canada.   You don't have to have professional to have an good or bad opinion, or belief  One could be a good teacher and at the same time racist/ idiot...I know hard concept to swallow but it happens all the time...

Teachers have forced their opinion on students, or is that a myth as well... and not just right wing teachers...

You are a class act for sure, it must be nice to sit up there on your lofty chair  and whine about right wing this and that...i guess all those articles are bullshit then, that they don't present both sides of the conversation, i assume your from the left side of the planet,  and all thinking not matching your own is well, bullshit, that this post is nothing more than a troll, fair enough you got me... 

The real threat is the right wing i guess, while people just like you sit on the right and say the same thing the major threat to our nation is the left...becasue both sides have forgotten how to communicate, what i posted has some very good sources backing up those opinions i have on the topic, i don't care what you think of them, but your not here to discuss anything , your here to scream and shout, get some attention... but i thought we were here to debate topics....but i guess we will have to suffer through your lectures instead...

Why is it more than half the states in the US have banned CRT ? maybe it is time to put on your big girl panties and offer something of value to the conversation. And explain what is that you find right about CRT ?

 

 

[West]

1 hour ago, jbander1A said:

What a hoot , so your now going to claim that courses that have nothing to do with CRT are really CRT cases in disguise so that Kindergarten kids can be indoctrinate. The ultimate hoot is your trying to say the kindergarten recess is a tool of indoctrination. Try harder you look like a fool.

Huh?

[West]

I think "CRT isn't being taught in schools" should go in the "Are we being gaslighted by the leftists?" thread.

[jbander1A]

On 4/21/2022 at 12:24 PM, suds said:

Have any opinions/studies at professional levels been presented to see how teaching CRT (or gender identity) may affect extremely young students emotionally and socially? None that i can find which in itself is somewhat interesting.  Experts it seems are a dime a dozen but how many are psychologists for example? Being an 'educator' doesn't mean you qualify. What are the proponents hoping to gain by teaching such complex things to K-3 students if not for indoctrination? Where is the science?

What a pile of crap premise, no kindergartners are taught critical race theory. At the most if they live in a a all white community they may be told that black people exist.  This is the insanity of the right , Its being made a issue and it isn't taught to at the most 10 % of college students and no one else. This is all goofball nonsense. Thanks to the bozo right.

[jbander1A]

On 4/22/2022 at 10:35 PM, Army Guy said:

OK sure it is ridiculous to think that one classroom or one school could go in the direction of the many examples i provided. to which has already happened in the states, and here in Canada.   You don't have to have professional to have an good or bad opinion, or belief  One could be a good teacher and at the same time racist/ idiot...I know hard concept to swallow but it happens all the time...

Teachers have forced their opinion on students, or is that a myth as well... and not just right wing teachers...

You are a class act for sure, it must be nice to sit up there on your lofty chair  and whine about right wing this and that...i guess all those articles are bullshit then, that they don't present both sides of the conversation, i assume your from the left side of the planet,  and all thinking not matching your own is well, bullshit, that this post is nothing more than a troll, fair enough you got me... 

The real threat is the right wing i guess, while people just like you sit on the right and say the same thing the major threat to our nation is the left...becasue both sides have forgotten how to communicate, what i posted has some very good sources backing up those opinions i have on the topic, i don't care what you think of them, but your not here to discuss anything , your here to scream and shout, get some attention... but i thought we were here to debate topics....but i guess we will have to suffer through your lectures instead...

Why is it more than half the states in the US have banned CRT ? maybe it is time to put on your big girl panties and offer something of value to the conversation. And explain what is that you find right about CRT ?

 

 

Good God maybe because the majority of states are right wing hate areas.  Book burners to the core. ban something that is all but made up by wackos. The only people in this country that are taught CRT is maybe 10-20 % of college students. The reason you get no respect on this is because it is 100% right wing bullshit to start with, you deserve no respect on this.

[jbander1A]

On 4/22/2022 at 11:44 PM, West said:

I think "CRT isn't being taught in schools" should go in the "Are we being gaslighted by the leftists?" thread.

The horror of teaching that there is racism in the world , the right wing is whacked. Burn a book anyone.

[West]

26 minutes ago, jbander1A said:

The horror of teaching that there is racism in the world , the right wing is whacked. Burn a book anyone.

The biggest racists in our society are the ones pushing crt

[suds]

2 hours ago, jbander1A said:

What a pile of crap premise, no kindergartners are taught critical race theory. At the most if they live in a a all white community they may be told that black people exist.  This is the insanity of the right , Its being made a issue and it isn't taught to at the most 10 % of college students and no one else. This is all goofball nonsense. Thanks to the bozo right.

Can we agree that CRT should not be taught to young students? Can we agree that it's underlying ideology is marxism that simply replaces 'class' with 'race'? And can we  agree that CRT by definition is inherently racist? No-one knows the extent to which CRT is being taught in schools.  What we do know is the extremes the left can push an idea once it gets in their heads.

[Michael Hardner]

32 minutes ago, suds said:

Can we agree that it's underlying ideology is marxism that simply replaces 'class' with 'race'? 

Simplification past the point of the ridiculous.  In other words, no we don't agree.

[Michael Hardner]

Here you go:

Marxian RACE theory asserts that an individual's position within a RACE hierarchy is determined by their role in the production process, and argues that political and ideological consciousness is determined by RACE position.[1] A RACE is those who share common economic interests, are conscious of those interests, and engage in collective action which advances those interests.[2] Within Marxian RACE theory, the structure of the production process forms the basis of class construction.

[West]

55 minutes ago, suds said:

Can we agree that CRT should not be taught to young students? Can we agree that it's underlying ideology is marxism that simply replaces 'class' with 'race'? And can we  agree that CRT by definition is inherently racist? No-one knows the extent to which CRT is being taught in schools.  What we do know is the extremes the left can push an idea once it gets in their heads.

These folks are brainwashed. 

"Cmon.. Hiring someone over another based on their skin color isn't actually racist and if you think it's racist your a racist you racist". 

"Cmon.. five year olds should have their 35 year old teacher give them the birds and the bees talk.."

This is what these sickos call "progress"

[suds]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Here you go:

Marxian RACE theory asserts that an individual's position within a RACE hierarchy is determined by their role in the production process, and argues that political and ideological consciousness is determined by RACE position.[1] A RACE is those who share common economic interests, are conscious of those interests, and engage in collective action which advances those interests.[2] Within Marxian RACE theory, the structure of the production process forms the basis of class construction.

Marxism originally pitted the working class against the capitalists with the working class as the oppressed and the capitalists as the oppressors. Race or gender was never a factor to be considered. Neo marxism (today's marxism) incorporates class, gender, and race, as being intersecting systems of oppression. With the old marxism, capitalism had to be replaced. With the new marxism which also now incorporates critical theory and feminism (among other things) pretty much everything has to go. The goal of replacing existing power structures to free those from the circumstances that enslave them haven't changed, but the tactics have.

[Michael Hardner]

40 minutes ago, suds said:

Marxism originally pitted the working class against the capitalists with the working class as the oppressed and the capitalists as the oppressors. 

Looks like you didn't read my last two posts.  What's the race version of value Theory?

[suds]

9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Looks like you didn't read my last two posts.  What's the race version of value Theory?

I think you're taking me a little too literally.

[Army Guy]

5 hours ago, jbander1A said:

Good God maybe because the majority of states are right wing hate areas.  Book burners to the core. ban something that is all but made up by wackos. The only people in this country that are taught CRT is maybe 10-20 % of college students. The reason you get no respect on this is because it is 100% right wing bullshit to start with, you deserve no respect on this.

Yes but how do you explain the over 8 blue states, book burners, wacko's...CRT is being taught to young adults who don't understand the massage behind CRT, not mature enough, here in Canada universities and collages normally produce high levels of left leaning students who, only after getting some life experience form their own opinions about what was taught to them or which way to lean left or right.. 

Map: See which states have passed critical race theory bills (nbcnews.com)

List of Red States (Republican States) - WorldAtlas

Not according to these sources which clearly state CRT or forms of it are clearly being taught to K-12 students...I'm not asking for respect , I'm asking for conversation on the topic, you have strong opinions, but have not brought anything to the table...except shouting it is all bullshit, well it seems there are many people in the US that disagree with you, I don't know what media companies are left or right in the US, so i gave a lot of sources...

Yes, critical race theory is being taught in public schools | Washington Examiner

Critical Race Theory Is Being Taught in K-12 Schools, First Lady Biden Supports it · The Floridian (floridianpress.com)

Teaching critical race theory isn't happening in classrooms, teachers say in survey (nbcnews.com)

Yes, critical race theory is being taught in public schools (msn.com)

Website tracks where critical race theory taught at US schools (nypost.com)

 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, suds said:

I think you're taking me a little too literally.

If you're saying that there are parallels then I guess I agree. It's still oversimplified though.

[jbander1A]

10 hours ago, West said:

The biggest racists in our society are the ones pushing crt

Now that's stupid. That is so ridiculous and nonsensical that its comical. Listen book burner, you are afraid of teaching that racism exists. What else can be said. What a hoot.

[jbander1A]

8 hours ago, suds said:

Can we agree that CRT should not be taught to young students? Can we agree that it's underlying ideology is marxism that simply replaces 'class' with 'race'? And can we  agree that CRT by definition is inherently racist? No-one knows the extent to which CRT is being taught in schools.  What we do know is the extremes the left can push an idea once it gets in their heads.

What a pile of crap, You have zero clue what Marxism is , you are a joke. Tell me how CRT correlates with the only way that socialism, Marxism and communism is implemented. The means of production is owned and operated by the state and the sales of that production is designated to the state. Without which their is no socialism , no Marxism and no communism. CRT is Marxism what a fricken hoot. Marxism is a economic response to capitalism nothing else Its a country's economy. it has nothing to do with Racist right  wing fat old white men .I always enjoy this attack the most from the right , it shows their willingness to show the whole world how stupid they are. The only way the lame can make the Commie attack work for them is if they define what it is themselves , the problem with that is that it already has a definition and that definition says theirs is brain dead IGNORANT.

[jbander1A]

CRT is taught to just about no one maybe 10 to 20 % of college students even hear about it , This is just hate party nonsense.

[West]

17 minutes ago, jbander1A said:

Now that's stupid. That is so ridiculous and nonsensical that its comical. Listen book burner, you are afraid of teaching that racism exists. What else can be said. What a hoot.

Racism exists in the mainstream because crt is running rampant. Leftists just slap a new name on their age old traditions of Racism. 

The Democrats are the party of Jim Crowe and slavery and keep that filth going with this crt crap. Sick people

[jbander1A]

1 minute ago, West said:

Racism exists in the mainstream because crt is running rampant. Leftists just slap a new name on their age old traditions of Racism. 

The Democrats are the party of Jim Crowe and slavery and keep that filth going with this crt crap. Sick people

You are a cartoon character , racism is darn near 100% right wing. just as they are 100% haters of all things.

[West]

23 minutes ago, jbander1A said:

You are a cartoon character , racism is darn near 100% right wing. just as they are 100% haters of all things.

BS. The left wing were the slave holders and Jim Crowe advocates. The hyperfocus on racism is BS and only used to attain political power. Biden could care less about black people and you know it 

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, jbander1A said:

You are a cartoon character , racism is darn near 100% right wing. just as they are 100% haters of all things.

Amusing. How do you square the history of the Democrats with your claim that racism is darn near 100% right wing?

Question: Should children be taught ideas of the oppressed and the oppressors? Should anyone be taught/convinced they are a product of their skin color? 

Apparently most people think that no, these ideas fly in the face of social cohesion and are designed to separate instead of unite.

And as a parent, I would have to say that I don't want this sort of racially charged junk-science taught to my kids...or any kids. My reasoning is simple; actively dividing society is a bad idea. Especially when the division is based on something no person can change...the color of their skin.

So then the question becomes; why would anyone promote such destructive ideas? And the answer is simple...

In our society there are many people who, for whatever reason, despise America. They hate our society to the core. They'd like nothing more than to see America torn into pieces. Burnt to the ground. These are the same people who advocate for replacing fossil fuels with tech that is incapable of supporting our energy needs...who think national borders, roads, kids toys, etc etc etc...are all racist.

Such people are dangerous and must be identified and marginalized. Sentenced to the same shunned category as the KKK. 

So...I will teach my kids and grandchildren that people like this jbander character should be publicly ridiculed and never taken seriously. 

Edited April 25, 2022 by Nationalist

[West]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Amusing. How do you square the history of the Democrats with your claim that racism is darn near 100% right wing?

Question: Should children be taught ideas of the oppressed and the oppressors? Should anyone be taught/convinced they are a product of their skin color? 

Apparently most people think that no, these ideas fly in the face of social cohesion and are designed to separate instead of unite.

And as a parent, I would have to say that I don't want this sort of racially charged junk-science taught to my kids...or any kids. My reasoning is simple; actively dividing society is a bad idea. Especially when the division is based on something no person can change...the color of their skin.

So then the question becomes; why would anyone promote such destructive ideas? And the answer is simple...

In our society there are many people who, for whatever reason, despise America. They hate our society to the core. They'd like nothing more than to see America torn into pieces. Burnt to the ground. These are the same people who advocate for replacing fossil fuels with tech that is incapable of supporting our energy needs...who think national borders, roads, kids toys, etc etc etc...are all racist.

Such people are dangerous and must be identified and marginalized. Sentenced to the same shunned category as the KKK. 

So...I will teach my kids and grandchildren that people like this jbander character should be publicly ridiculed and never taken seriously. 

It's the eugenics movement rebranded. Convince enough black folks they are the product of white oppression and can never amount to anything more. Keeps a healthy pool of cheap labour.

[eyeball]

Racists are simply assholes and assholes exist everywhere.

Always have and always will.