August1991 Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) Putin is merely doing what Catherine the Great already did. He is making Russia what it already was. ===== Russia, twice, was invaded by western psychopaths: Napoleon and Hitler. ===== Russia, Ukraine, Belorus - no difference. Russian soldiers can speak to local people. -this is not an invasion Edited March 16, 2022 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) I favour individual liberty in a civilised State. But I just don't know. ===== We in the West should avoid such civil wars. Some people (Ukrainians) want us to take a side. Edited March 16, 2022 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 32 minutes ago, August1991 said: I favour individual liberty in a civilised State. But I just don't know. ===== We in the West should avoid such civil wars. Some people (Ukrainians) want us to take a side. If that's the side that hasn't been bombing kids count me in. Mostly though I'm really pissed off at Putin for spoiling what could have been the start of a 'Happy Days Are Here Again' period following COVID. Putin is the biggest Debbie Downer the world has ever seen. Who does he think he is anyway, the 2nd Horseman of the Apocalypse or something? 1 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, eyeball said: If that's the side that hasn't been bombing kids count me in. Mostly though I'm really pissed off at Putin for spoiling what could have been the start of a 'Happy Days Are Here Again' period following COVID. Putin is the biggest Debbie Downer the world has ever seen. Who does he think he is anyway, the 2nd Horseman of the Apocalypse or something? Eyeball, Bombing kids? You are only seeing one side. ==== I entirely agree that this could have been avoided. But this is a Munich deal from the Russian perspective. ==== Everyone in the West (the MSM) hates Putin, Russia and even individual Russians. Ukrainians? Wonderful. Oppressed. But from the, uh, Russian perspective, Ukrainians are simply people at the border. Edited March 16, 2022 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, eyeball said: Putin is the biggest Debbie Downer the world has ever seen. Who does he think he is anyway, the 2nd Horseman of the Apocalypse or something? Putin has nothing to do with western narcissism. He wants to protect his country, Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, August1991 said: Eyeball, Bombing kids? You are only seeing one side. Ukraine has bombed a Russian maternity ward now? Quote I entirely agree that this could have been avoided. I'm not convinced it can't be stopped. Quote But this is a Munich deal from the Russian perspective. It's a shitty deal from the Ukraine's. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 Just now, August1991 said: Putin has nothing to do with western narcissism. He wants to protect his country, Russia. It looks like it's far more about Putin's narcissism to me. He wants to establish his legacy. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: It looks like it's far more about Putin's narcissism to me. He wants to establish his legacy. Look in the mirror. === Western MSM is beyond objective. Edited March 16, 2022 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, eyeball said: Ukraine has bombed a Russian maternity ward now? I'm not convinced it can't be stopped. It's a shitty deal from the Ukraine's. Ukraine, Ukrainians - these places simply don't exist. Poles? Poland? Lviv? I watched as Poles were forced to leave. ===== Eyeball, you don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, August1991 said: Western MSM is beyond objective. Oh my god, not you too. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, August1991 said: Eyeball, you don't understand. I accept your surrender. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 Surrender? Not at alI. I'm a maritimer. Look. IME, Ukrainians and Russians have no problem talking. So, I reckon that these people are involved in a civil war. We should avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 Reagan won the Cold War. ===== If you Slavs want to fight among yourselves, go ahead. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 Uh. Every happy family seems the same. Unhappy families are unhappy in their own way. Is this a US Constitution attempt to protect against all types of unhappiness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athos Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 hour ago, eyeball said: If that's the side that hasn't been bombing kids count me in. Mostly though I'm really pissed off at Putin for spoiling what could have been the start of a 'Happy Days Are Here Again' period following COVID. Putin is the biggest Debbie Downer the world has ever seen. Who does he think he is anyway, the 2nd Horseman of the Apocalypse or something? Here's who's bombing the kids The servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who were captured by the forces of the DPR were led along the Alley of Angels in Donetsk, a place of memory for children who died during the 8 years of the war in Donbass. Take a good look at how many innocent children's lives you have taken with your shelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 Athos, If this is an attempt to horrify, the shooting in Saigon is more world famous: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 You Slavs are fighting among yourselves. You are welcome to argue amongst yourselves - apparently you understand each other. This is not my business. ==== We won the Cold war. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athos Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 30 minutes ago, August1991 said: You Slavs are fighting among yourselves. You are welcome to argue amongst yourselves - apparently you understand each other. This is not my business. ==== We won the Cold war. Firstly I am not a Slav. You French are welcome to argue with your Arabs - apparently you understand each other. This is not my business. ==== We won the trade war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, athos said: Firstly I am not a Slav. You French are welcome to argue with your Arabs - apparently you understand each other. .... Fair enough, you're not Slav. And I'm not French, nor Arab. And I get your point: "They came for the left-handed people, and I said nothing... " ==== Ukrainians and Russian speak basically the same language with a different accent: Y'all Texans and New Yahkers. Some Ukrainians are sophisticated, some Russians are stupid. IMHO, we outsiders have nothing to do with this discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 5 hours ago, August1991 said: Ukraine, Ukrainians - these places simply don't exist. they do now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 6 hours ago, August1991 said: Ukraine, Ukrainians - these places simply don't exist. Poles? Poland? Lviv? I watched as Poles were forced to leave. ===== Eyeball, you don't understand. Says the Quebecer. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, August1991 said: -this is not an invasion Are you out of your mind? Russians are bombarding defenseless Ukrainians every day killing many including women and children and have entered the territory with hundreds of thousands of troops, tanks and armored vehicles and you say this is not an invasion because most Ukrainians can communicate in Russian!!!!!!!!. Edited March 16, 2022 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faramir Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 I can't believe I am going to take the globalist position on this but Putin is no saint. Just like Merkel was former Stasi, Putin is former KGB. He dreams of a renewed Soviet Union. And I believe his embrace of religion is just another way for him to have appeal to the masses. He is no more Christian than Hillary is not a 3 time murderess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faramir Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 3 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Are you out of your mind? Russian are bombarding defenseless Ukrainians every day killing many including women and children and have entered the territory with hundreds of thousands of troops, tanks and armored vehicles and you say this is not an invasion because most Ukrainians can communicate in Russian!!!!!!!!. It seems that is true. I'm never comfortable when the entire world is on the same page about something. Especially in these fractured times. Sounding more like Russia is like the Germans in WWI. Mass atrocities on its target the Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 8 hours ago, August1991 said: IMHO, we outsiders have nothing to do with this discussion. You figure we're Martians or something? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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