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On 5/15/2022 at 4:32 AM, August1991 said:

I reckon that Charest will win the leadership - and he will keep Pierre onside.

Charest is a dealer/player - like Harper. Canada is a complicated federal country.

He is past his prime. 

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I want to see what PP can achieve, especially if Lewis is his right hand.  We need restoration of values, rights, and prosperity.  Charest can be a bridge.  I see him in Foreign Affairs or as Justice Minister, perhaps Defence.  All the leadership candidates have strengths.  Actually Baber as Justice Minister would be a welcome change from Lametti.  

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5 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

It sounds like you are saying the Conservatives should not denounce racism.

I dont think they should have to denounce comments by somebody repeatedly or at all. Should be a given that you can agree with somebody on one thing and not another 

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5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Also - denouncing racism (and there is evidence that it's increasing in this environment of belittling the threat of it) is seens as 'sick' and 'pathetic'.

 

It's a political ploy. Accuse somebody of "racism" so you don't have to acknowledge what they are saying. Liberals are deranged like that

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4 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Does anyone on here actually think racism is okay?  “An unjust act anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”  I’d like to think that everyone here agrees that double standards aren’t okay, whether because of race or any other superficial marker.

So how do you feel about the markers that are used to identify and cancel anything left of a conservative these days?  Markers that attribute the very worst behaviours to the left as evidenced by oft repeated references to some of the worst mass murderers in history.

I'm finding once again a reason to wonder if the left were a race would the right treat it with more respect or less?  I'm leaning towards the latter myself.

The right's loathing is as intense as it's fear's are mindless.

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26 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So how do you feel about the markers that are used to identify and cancel anything left of a conservative these days?  Markers that attribute the very worst behaviours to the left as evidenced by oft repeated references to some of the worst mass murderers in history.

I'm finding once again a reason to wonder if the left were a race would the right treat it with more respect or less?  I'm leaning towards the latter myself.

The right's loathing is as intense as it's fear's are mindless.

The funny thing is that I don’t really see much here that’s “right”.  What’s happened is that we’ve lost the centre completely to the radical left. We’re being told now that it’s wrong to raise boys as boys or girls as girls because gender is a social construct (it’s isn’t: ask a biologist).  We’re being told that people are born victims or oppressors and remain this way based on skin colour, sexual orientation, and gender (intersectional determinism).  We have lost all sense of reality, for example, the reality that in a free society where people are equal under the law we can overcome barriers through hard work and the application of skill.  Once we lose our meritocracy and start rewarding people for superficial reasons like ethnicity, we’re done, because talent will go where it can express itself.  Can we really claim that Facebook’s 58 genders are grounded in science?

Do we think it’s fine to offer assisted suicide to those who are not of sound mind?   Apparently that’s acceptable in Canada.  I guess the next step will be killing off those who can’t speak for themselves because the costs of care are high.  There are no limits on the timeframe for abortions in Canada.  You can have a partial birth abortion of a viable baby the day before the 9 month delivery date.

We’ve become a confused society that will kick veterans in the teeth for demanding that Charter rights are protected.  We will borrow money we don’t have to pay for programs we can’t afford in order to prop up a self-serving fascistic government (NDP-Liberal alliance), all in a time of high inflation due to government over-spending. We watch our government impose brutal carbon taxes on citizens when gas prices have jumped over 100% in a year.

Canadians are lost in a web of radical left wing experimentation.  Opposing it or expressing concern about this direction and the policies that support it could take your job and reputation in our cancel culture.

The Conservative Party of Canada is barely conservative in any traditional sense of the word.  Sadly, we probably won’t get the conservative shift we need just to bring us to centre, because we’ve been indoctrinated to believe that sacrificing the middle to pander to radical interests is “progressive” and good.  As a result, the youth are lost and adults are made to feel guilty about listening to their biology and doing what feels normal and healthy.  

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38 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So how do you feel about the markers that are used to identify and cancel anything left of a conservative these days?  Markers that attribute the very worst behaviours to the left as evidenced by oft repeated references to some of the worst mass murderers in history.

I'm finding once again a reason to wonder if the left were a race would the right treat it with more respect or less?  I'm leaning towards the latter myself.

The right's loathing is as intense as it's fear's are mindless.

Coming from a guy who believes "the right" want to take us back to the Jim Crowe era. 

What leftists call racist is actually right wingers mocking them for being so over the top crazy?

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1 hour ago, eyeball said:

The right's loathing is as intense as it's fear's are mindless.

Fear is the key word here. I'm constantly reading from them how the mainstream media puts fear into people's hearts over different things, such as covid. But these are just risks that we take into account, decisions to be made. I was never afraid of Covid.

They are projecting.

Fear of immigrants, and especially fear of some nebulous left conspiracy is what drives these people into a frenzy.

They've already thrown conservative institutions such as a Globr and Mail in National Post onto the fire, nothing is pure enough for them.

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3 hours ago, Army Guy said:

I was just thinking of bribing all the left ( liberals, NDP, Green)to get on large ships for free all-inclusive cruises "the left likes free things" and then drop them off in some other country or Antarctica,  Hey, it is not like it has not been done already in our history. we'll call it the purge, make it a national holiday... somewhere in the future, we will just say sorry we do it for everything else... 

I'm disappointed.  Did you serve our country, or only conservatives?

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2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Fear is the key word here. I'm constantly reading from them how the mainstream media puts fear into people's hearts over different things, such as covid. But these are just risks that we take into account, decisions to be made. I was never afraid of Covid.

They are projecting.

Fear of immigrants, and especially fear of some nebulous left conspiracy is what drives these people into a frenzy.

They've already thrown conservative institutions such as a Globr and Mail in National Post onto the fire, nothing is pure enough for them.

The voice of Toronto . . . . profound and entrenched.  Thanks Mike, thanks a lot.

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11 hours ago, West said:

Leftists don't think our country is worth defending. Very sad. Very sad

They think it's worth defending.  They're doing it every day defending it from ignorance, stupidity and incoherent anger.  They're defending it from people like you.  

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18 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

They think it's worth defending.  They're doing it every day defending it from ignorance, stupidity and incoherent anger.  They're defending it from people like you.  

Was wondering where you got yourself to Moonshine. Welcome back

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1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

Right ?  It's a pile on of people just repeating buzzwords like "Democrat Marxists" "Wokism"

Zero context, zero analysis and generally unprincipled low-intellect contributions...

This is why Trudeau will win a 4th term - people can't offer an alternative that rises above name calling...

Trudeau will win a 4th term because Canada is verging on totalitarian socialism.  There is no opposition to Canada’s woke-green radical loony left.

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2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Trudeau will win a 4th term because Canada is verging on totalitarian socialism. 

Case in point.  I ring the bell, and you drool.  

"Totalitarian Marxist Socialism Liberal Wokeism"

And yet... businesses are free, the wealthy are thriving, taxes are relatively low, speech is almost unregulated, opposition is everywhere.

But words.  Words.  "Mucky Blucky Pizzahead Marxist Socialism"... or whatever FOX feeds you next.

We need to alert the mushy middle that there are zombies in our midst using nonsense words and trying to convert them to the cult...

 

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56 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Case in point.  I ring the bell, and you drool.  

"Totalitarian Marxist Socialism Liberal Wokeism"

And yet... businesses are free, the wealthy are thriving, taxes are relatively low, speech is almost unregulated, opposition is everywhere.

But words.  Words.  "Mucky Blucky Pizzahead Marxist Socialism"... or whatever FOX feeds you next.

We need to alert the mushy middle that there are zombies in our midst using nonsense words and trying to convert them to the cult...

 

No hablo English

Cost of living and fuel taxes are crushingly high.

Speaking freely means a termination letter from the Equity Arm of HR or questioning by the Human Rights Tribunal.

Protesters of government policy will be humiliated by the government and the government-funded MSM.  Freeze their bank accounts, take their business licenses, seize their assets!  Unacceptable views!

Zombies?  You and your conspiracy theories…

 

 

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4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Right ?  It's a pile on of people just repeating buzzwords like "Democrat Marxists" "Wokism"

Zero context, zero analysis and generally unprincipled low-intellect contributions...

This is why Trudeau will win a 4th term - people can't offer an alternative that rises above name calling...

Honest question Mike. Do you think if a Conservative candidate, say, had photos of him wearing blackface in circulation he would still be party leader? 

The reason Trudeau is still in office is because he's well protected by the media. The guy can make a complete fool of himself, yet the press softens it for him. A conservative would never get away with half the nonsense he does. 

As for this forum, it's become "a joke" because we point out what a joke the prime minister is. The material itself should be satire or hyperbole but it's really not. 

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5 minutes ago, West said:

The reason Trudeau is still in office is because he's well protected by the media.

No, the reason is because the CPC hasn't put up a leader more popular than the Prime Minister. Somebody like Rona Ambrose ot Lisa Raitt. 

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22 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

No, the reason is because the CPC hasn't put up a leader more popular than the Prime Minister. Somebody like Rona Ambrose ot Lisa Raitt. 

It's sad that lefties are ride or die with a guy like Trudeau. Slings accusations of "racism" at others while bullying minorities, groping women, and wearing blackface more times than one can count.

If Liberals had any ounce of integrity (they don't) the guy would've been punted years ago. 

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25 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

No, the reason is because the CPC hasn't put up a leader more popular than the Prime Minister. Somebody like Rona Ambrose ot Lisa Raitt. 

No no... it's because the MEDIA.  Get your finger pointing right ?

 

If people don't vote for a guy who has never had a job, whose platform is: "1. F*** Trudeau 2. Freedom 3. Bitcoin" then they're Liberal Marxist Wokists and the media is brainwashing them.

 

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14 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

No no... it's because the MEDIA.  Get your finger pointing right ?

 

If people don't vote for a guy who has never had a job, whose platform is: "1. F*** Trudeau 2. Freedom 3. Bitcoin" then they're Liberal Marxist Wokists and the media is brainwashing them.

 

That’s better.  Just remember that most of our MSM is increasingly indistinguishable from government communications, so blaming media isn’t much different from blaming government.  

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