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I love Québec and I would gladly live there for many years to come. It has its charm, but also its flaws like all things. 

A headline caught my attention today;

Garderie sous gestion douteuse: le ministre exige un examen du processus d’enquête

it translates to

Kindergaten under suspicious management: the Minister requires an exam of the investigation process

You don't need to know about the full story to get my point on this title. For me, this title of the article is revealing on how Québec is handled: With committees, counsils, investigations, inquiries, groups of experts, intellectuals, all thinking about "the process" and not going out of their way to be efficient rather than being protocolar.

We have too big of a State, and it is getting ridiculous, up to a point where even the management of a kindergarten has several layers of government involvement and still, nothing is working, despite all the funding and all the experts working on the file.

When you compare that with the management of Denmark or Sweden, we're the laughing stock of the world. 

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2 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

I love Québec and I would gladly live there for many years to come. It has its charm, but also its flaws like all things. 

A headline caught my attention today;

Garderie sous gestion douteuse: le ministre exige un examen du processus d’enquête

it translates to

Kindergaten under suspicious management: the Minister requires an exam of the investigation process

You don't need to know about the full story to get my point on this title. For me, this title of the article is revealing on how Québec is handled: With committees, counsils, investigations, inquiries, groups of experts, intellectuals, all thinking about "the process" and not going out of their way to be efficient rather than being protocolar.

We have too big of a State, and it is getting ridiculous, up to a point where even the management of a kindergarten has several layers of government involvement and still, nothing is working, despite all the funding and all the experts working on the file.

When you compare that with the management of Denmark or Sweden, we're the laughing stock of the world. 

I've seen this in other areas as well, the public sector. Bloated administration is a kind of social disease. If you don't take action against it, this is what happens.

We pride ourselves on not having things like inheritance, but let's be honest, of course there is and it's embedded right in the fabric of Canada. The Prime Minister would never have been a PM if not for his father. And the failure of that in our system is now on full display.

....

I saw what happened in hospitals from the later '80s to now. Administration exploded in population growth, like rabbits yet they were not good for anything. Like rabbits. These were now people "entitled" to have a nice job, as the majority of them come from well-to-do families. A doctor made good money on his lifetime, they were rich. His children were not doctors however. So he saw to it they got a job in the hospital admin. Easiest job in the building, but top pay. Of course they know nothing about nothing, and drag down the whole system.

... Like PM   ;)

 

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On 2/17/2022 at 8:33 AM, QuebecOverCanada said:

I love Québec and I would gladly live there for many years to come. It has its charm, but also its flaws like all things. 

A headline caught my attention today;

Garderie sous gestion douteuse: le ministre exige un examen du processus d’enquête

it translates to

Kindergaten under suspicious management: the Minister requires an exam of the investigation process

You don't need to know about the full story to get my point on this title. For me, this title of the article is revealing on how Québec is handled: With committees, counsils, investigations, inquiries, groups of experts, intellectuals, all thinking about "the process" and not going out of their way to be efficient rather than being protocolar.

We have too big of a State, and it is getting ridiculous, up to a point where even the management of a kindergarten has several layers of government involvement and still, nothing is working, despite all the funding and all the experts working on the file.

When you compare that with the management of Denmark or Sweden, we're the laughing stock of the world. 

Quebec's biggest problem is their insistence on language laws.!

Almost all of the province's Ills stem from that. It's insane to me but...that's Quebec.

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Any government operation is complcated by the fact everyone is your boss and they all know how to do things better than you do, but they can't agree amongst themselves how it should be done. And because, even though they voted for you, they think you are a liar and a crook, so you have to put all kinds of oversight and regulations just to make sure the operation is fair to everyone and no money goes missing and the contracts have to go to the lowest bidder but it has to be in their neighbourhood, even though there are a lot of "their neighbourhoods", and your bosses, (the public) want someone looking over everyone's shoulder so that needs extra layers of bureaucracy. Governments are inefficient because voters look at the government worker or public servant and think they are as crooked and untrustworthy as themselves. Anywhere you have money floating around, you attract pirates. Government is no different. It was that way when the Pharoes were building the pyramids.

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On 2/17/2022 at 8:33 AM, QuebecOverCanada said:

 For me, this title of the article is revealing on how Québec is handled: With committees, counsils, investigations, inquiries, groups of experts, intellectuals, all thinking about "the process" and not going out of their way to be efficient rather than being protocolar.

We have too big of a State, and it is getting ridiculous, up to a point where even the management of a kindergarten has several layers of government involvement and still, nothing is working, despite all the funding and all the experts working on the file.

When you compare that with the management of Denmark or Sweden, we're the laughing stock of the world. 

Quebec is a massive socialist carnival and you have answered your own question.

But if you go there, you will have a good time.  What does that mean ? 

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On 3/1/2022 at 8:45 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Quebec is a massive socialist carnival and you have answered your own question.

But if you go there, you will have a good time.  What does that mean ? 

That stupid people can drink too?

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On 2/27/2022 at 7:57 AM, Nationalist said:

Quebec's biggest problem is their insistence on language laws.!

Almost all of the province's Ills stem from that. It's insane to me but...that's Quebec.

What do you think of signs that have only Chinese on them in Richmond, BC?

 

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2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

New here and the headline caught my attention.

Why is Québec so inefficient and poor?

 

Well, in my opinion, Quebec is like the indigenous of this Country.  Always getting everything it wants with no consequences.

If the indigenous get everything they want, why are they so much poorer than the rest of us?  

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22 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

If the indigenous get everything they want, why are they so much poorer than the rest of us?  

What one does with their money and how they spend it is up to them. I have friends that have significantly higher income than me but always seem broke. Their lifestyle has them where they are.

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23 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

They are taxed to the hilt, so there's that.  Also living as a conquered people which I'm sure you wouldn't love.

Ummm, Quebec pays more income tax but they get almost free daycare and many other benefits.

Conquered people??? If that is the case then they should have been fully integrated as opposed to being able to flaunt national interests and laws.

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46 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

1. Ummm, Quebec pays more income tax but they get almost free daycare and many other benefits.

2. Conquered people??? If that is the case then they should have been fully integrated as opposed to being able to flaunt national interests and laws.

1. The pearl of socialism is yours, if you only grasp it.
2. Conquering Europeans doesn't work the same as black people.  Germans still speak German right? 

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. The pearl of socialism is yours, if you only grasp it.
2. Conquering Europeans doesn't work the same as black people.  Germans still speak German right? 

1. ? Huh??

2. Germany was conquered? Quebecers were conquered?  Both lost a war and one became a world economic leader and the other became a welfare case.

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46 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

1. ? Huh??

2. Germany was conquered?

3. Quebecers were conquered? 

4. Both lost a war and one became a world economic leader and the other became a welfare case.

1. Those free benefits you are drooling over are all yours to take.  Just grab the ring... Come on... grab it... grab it...
2. Sorry is that an MSM lie ?  I don't know how to keep track.  I learn all my history from CNN and Tom Hanks WW2 movies.
3. 7 Years' War
4. Quebec is a world economic leader in culture and technology.  Alberta's brilliant innovation is they drill holes in the ground...  I'm being flippant of course...

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On 3/9/2022 at 10:59 AM, Michael Hardner said:

They are taxed to the hilt, so there's that.  Also living as a conquered people which I'm sure you wouldn't love.

They were conquered.  Canada is no longer the British Empire though.  Quebecers have been our PM most of the last 50+ years and we've done just about everything to bend over backwards for them.

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9 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Those free benefits you are drooling over are all yours to take.  Just grab the ring... Come on... grab it... grab it...
2. Sorry is that an MSM lie ?  I don't know how to keep track.  I learn all my history from CNN and Tom Hanks WW2 movies.
3. 7 Years' War
4. Quebec is a world economic leader in culture and technology.  Alberta's brilliant innovation is they drill holes in the ground...  I'm being flippant of course...

If Quebec has problems with their government it's self-inflicted.  They want their self-determination and the ROC has given it to them in spades.  Any time they feel bothered they tell the ROC who then typically gives them what they want.

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20 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Those free benefits you are drooling over are all yours to take.  Just grab the ring... Come on... grab it... grab it...
2. Sorry is that an MSM lie ?  I don't know how to keep track.  I learn all my history from CNN and Tom Hanks WW2 movies.
3. 7 Years' War
4. Quebec is a world economic leader in culture and technology.  Alberta's brilliant innovation is they drill holes in the ground...  I'm being flippant of course...

1. "Free" benefits?

2. MSM lies?

3. 7 years war?  Or the War for Quebec when France ceded to the British in 1760? And Quebec has been on Canadian welfare since then.

4. Quebec a word leader in Culture?? What a laugh that is. Quebec culture maybe LOL A world leader in technology? Another laugh. If any technology is there at all it is because the Canadian government gives incentives to move there or forces companies to move there LOL

I am not being flippant, of course.

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1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

1. "Free" benefits?

2. 7 years war?   

3. Quebec a word leader in Culture?? What a laugh that is.
 

1. No - we talked about it.  They pay.
2. Yes
3. Indeed.  Cirque du Soleil will make you laugh until you cry.  Daniel Lanois, and Denis Villeneuve and Denis Arcand and Celine Dion are amazing also.

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