blackbird Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) It was reported in the media that Trump had some harsh words about Trudeau lately and threw his support behind the convoys and occupation of Ottawa. A lot of the money donated to Go Fund Me for this came from anonymous foreign sources, some of which were donations over $30,000. Could this money be coming from American Trumpsters? Donald Trump Called Trudeau A 'Far Left Lunatic' Who 'Destroyed' Canada With COVID-19 Mandates (msn.com) Ottawa protest battle lines harden on both sides amid concerns chance for peaceful end has passed (msn.com) Edited February 6, 2022 by blackbird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 The convoy represents a massive national and worldwide opposition to the arbitrary and unwarranted suspension of rights and freedoms. In Canada these are enshrined in our Charter. In the US they’re in the Bill of Rights. Some will try to politicize, but all democratic parties should protect constitutional rights from government overreach. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 Trump is coming back in one form or another...nothing much those on the left can do about it now. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 The convoy is made in Canada, end of story. We’ll take any cash and support they want to lend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, blackbird said: It was reported in the media that Trump had some harsh words about Trudeau lately and threw his support behind the convoys and occupation of Ottawa. A lot of the money donated to Go Fund Me for this came from anonymous foreign sources, some of which were donations over $30,000. Could this money be coming from American Trumpsters? Ottawa protest battle lines harden on both sides amid concerns chance for peaceful end has passed (msn.com) Ahhh...there it is. That overwhelming Libbie affliction of TDS. Can we develop a jab for these poor frightened folks. It all must really hurt...their poor feelings. 1 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said: The convoy represents a massive national and worldwide opposition to the arbitrary and unwarranted suspension of rights and freedoms. In Canada these are enshrined in our Charter. In the US they’re in the Bill of Rights. Some will try to politicize, but all democratic parties should protect constitutional rights from government overreach. Don't spread false info. Latest Abacus poll only yesterday indicted two-thirds of Canadians do not support the illegal occupation of their Capital by these crowd and 57% think their behavior has been rude and inappropriate. I attached the link to such post in other thread. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/one-third-of-canadians-say-they-have-a-lot-in-common-with-freedom-convoy-protesters Edited February 5, 2022 by CITIZEN_2015 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 I pity ones like blackbird. I really do feel sorry for them. We have all been the victims of psychological abuse by our government. Like any abusive relationship, people wake up to it at different times. And some never do. They remain in the grip of the abuser. https://www.hartgroup.org/ethical-concerns-arising-from-the-governments-use-of-covert-psychological-nudges/?fbclid=IwAR2wIWo448kJX8nFaNxkMhc4VGTGj8oORU9BlmDzE4lsvDBHlUvLxsAykwE https://www.albertahealthservices.ca/assets/info/ppih/if-ppih-covid-19-sag-rapid-evidence-report-attitudes-and-adherence-to-covid-19-guidelines.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1mJlY6adTNn3bFDCLAvEzDQSlnRPV8VeGoHf-OKw-5peDLzPHBZC435ns 2 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 Truuuuuummp. The libbie cry ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Goddess said: I pity ones like blackbird. I really do feel sorry for them. We have all been the victims of psychological abuse by our government. Like any abusive relationship, people wake up to it at different times. And some never do. They remain in the grip of the abuser. https://www.hartgroup.org/ethical-concerns-arising-from-the-governments-use-of-covert-psychological-nudges/?fbclid=IwAR2wIWo448kJX8nFaNxkMhc4VGTGj8oORU9BlmDzE4lsvDBHlUvLxsAykwE https://www.albertahealthservices.ca/assets/info/ppih/if-ppih-covid-19-sag-rapid-evidence-report-attitudes-and-adherence-to-covid-19-guidelines.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1mJlY6adTNn3bFDCLAvEzDQSlnRPV8VeGoHf-OKw-5peDLzPHBZC435ns Like frightened sheep being herded from one deadly precipice to the next... It really is. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, West said: Truuuuuummp. The libbie cry ? The same polls that said Hillary had it in the bag. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goddess Posted February 5, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 4 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuebecOverCanada Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 When losing political grounds, blame an outside aggressor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Don't spread false info. Latest Abacus poll only yesterday indicted two-thirds of Canadians do not support the illegal occupation of their Capital by these crowd and 57% think their behavior has been rude and inappropriate. I attached the link to such post in other thread. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/one-third-of-canadians-say-they-have-a-lot-in-common-with-freedom-convoy-protesters Don't spread false info. 86.31 % of 56,495 support the convoy of truckers protesting the vaccine restrictions to Canada. https://www.saanichnews.com/web-poll/poll-do-you-support-the-convoy-of-truckers-protesting-vaccine-restrictions-in-canada/ The polls you link are extremely small, find larger sample sizes. Also reread your polls, they do not say what you claim they are saying. Edited February 5, 2022 by Winston 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Goddess said: I pity ones like blackbird. I really do feel sorry for them. You mean two-third of Canadians? Maybe we should feel sorry for one third supporters of law breakers!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexii Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 Yes it's all Emmanuel Goldstein's fault.... err Trump. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Winston said: Don't spread false info. 86.31 % of 56,495 support the convoy of truckers protesting the vaccine restrictions to Canada. https://www.saanichnews.com/web-poll/poll-do-you-support-the-convoy-of-truckers-protesting-vaccine-restrictions-in-canada/ The polls you link are extremely small, find larger sample sizes. web polls are worse despite the sample size selection bias is a helluva drug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Winston said: Don't spread false info. 86.31 % of 56,495 support the convoy of truckers protesting the vaccine restrictions to Canada. https://www.saanichnews.com/web-poll/poll-do-you-support-the-convoy-of-truckers-protesting-vaccine-restrictions-in-canada/ The polls you link are extremely small, find larger sample sizes. Where on earth is Saanich news!!!!!. Did you hand-pick that? Maybe i start a news agency myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: web polls are worse despite the sample size selection bias is a helluva drug That is precisely my point. Polls do not indicate anything useful unless you counter for biased samples and use massive sample sizes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Don't spread false info. Latest Abacus poll only yesterday indicted two-thirds of Canadians do not support the illegal occupation of their Capital by these crowd and 57% think their behavior has been rude and inappropriate. I attached the link to such post in other thread. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/one-third-of-canadians-say-they-have-a-lot-in-common-with-freedom-convoy-protesters "Those baaad ol' truckers are rude and inappropriate!" LOL 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Where on earth is Saanich news!!!!!. Did you hand-pick that? Maybe i start a news agency myself. Go for it. My point is anyone can find polls indicating their desired outcome. Cherry picking polls is also easy. Unless you counter for bias and use large sample sizes, polls have little value. Instead counter with solid arguments. For example, The convoy is probably not going to end well, thus a different route should be taken to push a position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Winston said: That is precisely my point. Polls do not indicate anything useful unless you counter for biased samples and use massive sample sizes. indeed but web polls let anyone vote on them so they biased in favor of causes that are far more popular on the internet than in real life and the website who does the poll has an audience bias too for example Ron Paul used to win all the online polls after every debate still never came anywhere close to winning the Republican nomination beware of web polls no matter the sample size Edited February 5, 2022 by Yzermandius19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Winston said: Instead counter with solid arguments. For example, The convoy is probably not going to end well, thus a different route should be taken to push a position. Not sure why not ending well. The use of force is ruled out and it will be up to police to enforce the law and order so unless they start rioting and destruction eventually they get tired and will leave. This weekend crowd and protest is less than last weekend and will be even less next weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Nexii said: Yes it's all Emmanuel Goldstein's fault.... err Trump. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Not sure why not ending well. There are 4 options, end the mandate, use force, the convoy becomes aggressive, the convoy goes home. Only two of these will end well. Given the growing mass of the convoy and global publicity/support, home is several weeks away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Winston said: There are 4 options, end the mandate, use force, the convoy becomes aggressive, the convoy goes home. Only two of these will end well. Given the growing mass of the convoy and global publicity/support, home is several weeks away. I don't think there is growing support at home. Downtown residents are more fed up every day demanding police action and as the nation watch their Capital City under occupation over time, even those minority who may support the illegal blocking of streets will turn against them. They have to leave sooner or later. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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