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5 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Ontario, which spends 42 cents out of every dollar on health care — the province’s largest single expenditure by far — fares even worse.

And that is, sadly, not even a remote surprise. Without checks and controls, a bureaucracy running free and wild will be spending all, as much as it can get hands on, on itself producing as little in real results as it can possibly get away with. Just watch it.

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4 minutes ago, myata said:

And that is, sadly, not even a remote surprise. Without checks and controls, a bureaucracy running free and wild will be spending all, as much as it can get hands on, on itself producing as little in real results as it can possibly get away with. Just watch it.

Yes, but blame the unvaccinated who should be fired from work, fined and even possibly jailed.

As my wife points out, well at least in jail they get their meals, free health care gym and internet. Even a university education...

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3 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Yes, but blame the unvaccinated

We are approaching a phase in the bureaucratic evolution described by classics such as Kafka, Dostoevsky etc. I don't think there's anything new and exciting we're expecting to observe here.

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An isolated, self-absorbed and self-managed bureaucratic Gargantua making its own rules for the society no checks controls or even meaningful explanation. Now it's going to inject everyone at will. Almost there. What's next, plan and stage and entitlement? Anyone wants to guess?

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1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

The infringements on freedoms for the vast majority of Canadians are unprecedented in Canada.

On the parallels, for whatever they are worth, there's an essential difference. The rise of the Nazi regime in Germany was caused by a prolonged, devastating economical and political crisis following WWI and Great Depression. There's no such reasons in Canada. There's no existential threats or crises other than those that the bureaucracy created itself. The only reason for authoritarian management and measures appears to be: because it can. Because there's nothing, at all, whatsoever that could detect, check and prevent unnecessary and unreasonable transgressions.

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1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

What I've said before... this is the result of hiring rich people's kids into cushy hospital administrator positions. Nice, life-long jobs starting at $100k/ year for junior position.

Aye, there's the rub.   ;)

 

The real problems need to be talked about and solutions offered up. Otherwise you'll get nothing but more of these irrational and hurtful mandates.

Good luck with it.  I've been trying to talk about this for nearly 25 years now.  

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Government needs to be kept in a little box, indoors, and not allowed out.

No, we just need to be allowed in is all.  The little box you just described sounds a lot like the little smoke-filled rooms where rich people meet in secret private with the government.

So I've been suggesting for years now that we outlaw in-camera lobbying.  I mostly get irrationally associated with mass murdering psychopathic dictators for my trouble - it is what it is.

Some people seem to think I'm attacking the free speech rights of their betters and they don't like it one bit.

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2 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

What I've said before... this is the result of hiring rich people's kids into cushy hospital administrator positions. Nice, life-long jobs starting at $100k/ year for junior position.

But wouldn't that describe the idea and a blueprint of the country's public service in general? And if it does, even approximately, where's the news? Why would it try doing anything differently? Why anyone would, under an eternal shower (of taxpayer's $$$) that never ceases?

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We can be past the point of no return with  a runaway bureaucracy. It cannot be reformed, the costs will increase possibly/likely at accelerating rate, and the results, return to the society, minimal to none. Not a great confluence. And there are no political or social means and instruments to deal with this problem. Every good run comes to an end, some time.

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5 minutes ago, myata said:

We can be past the point of no return with  a runaway bureaucracy. It cannot be reformed, the costs will increase possibly/likely at accelerating rate, and the results, return to the society, minimal to none. Not a great confluence. And there are no political or social means and instruments to deal with this problem. Every good run comes to an end, some time.

Take a closer look at the possibilities from outlawing in-camera lobbying of public officials on public business before hanging yourself in despair. 

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On 1/22/2022 at 8:37 AM, myata said:

Where is this going? What is the exit plan? In the third year, can we know "out of the abundance of caution and for as long as necessary"? What kind of a sane society does not think about where it's heading?

Something has changed about us and in us, and we didn't care to notice. Can it be reversed, would you know?

Covid 19 has changed us all for the worse. We are starting to see the results of what the globalist big pharma elite are doing to us. They are turning the world inside out and upside down. this is all just one big pharma globalist conspiracy and hoax but yet many will laugh at the thought that this is part of a major world wide conspiracy. 

In order to now try and get our lives back to the old normal days is that we must start to get rid of this medical covid tyranny medical madness or else things will only get worse. Our politicians will see and make sure that things get worse.

The UK and Ireland have now got rid of all of their covid vaccine mandates. The people are free to once again be able to go into some business establishment without having to wear a clown mask, and there will be no more need to have to show a vaccine passport to be able to go eat in a restaurant. Only we the peasants can end this covid tyranny. Well? 

Refuse the boost. 😇 

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4 hours ago, myata said:

And that is, sadly, not even a remote surprise. Without checks and controls, a bureaucracy running free and wild will be spending all, as much as it can get hands on, on itself producing as little in real results as it can possibly get away with. Just watch it.

Winge, winge. Americans spend twice as much per capita.

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I’m not sure the Roman provinces (former British colonies) will be afforded the same rights as the Roman citizens (Brits) and the US states that are resisting mandates and restrictions.  Canada is probably a test case for the Global Reset.  Our federal government defers to the PHAC, which Dr. Tam has clearly stated is directed by the WHO.  Post national Canada is run by the WHO, which is heavily influenced by China.  Canada is transforming democracy into digital dictatorship.  Basically Trudeau, Duclos, and Dr. Tam are the de facto triumvirate that tells Canadians what criteria will be added to their digital citizenship (vaccine passport) and how much freedom of movement, business activity, and congregation will be permitted to the vaccinated at any given time.  If you want to know Canada’s future under the current government structure, listen to the WHO and President Xi.  Biden is asleep at the wheel, so half the US is already following the same script as Canada.  There are only different political parties in Canada by name right now.  Canada’s sovereignty is in serious danger.  The Brits finally caught on.  The Queen should dissolve our Parliament.  

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5 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

 

As my wife points out, well at least in jail they get their meals, free health care gym and internet. Even a university education...

Which begs the question why are not all homeless committing the types of crimes that will put them behind bars for a long time.

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Just now, Aristides said:

We don't put people behind bars for a long time. We don't like to put them behind bars at all.

25 years for murder, without parole.  Not that I want to see all homeless become killers, but in some cases prison will improve their lives.

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1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Winge, winge. Americans spend twice as much per capita.

Or put it this way, you spend half as much, still a lot (see posts in this topic), still pay absurd salaries to CEO, PHO and such no questions asked and will spend the rest of your age in lockdowns, masks, and possibly and realistically, mandatory ongoing mRNA-boosting no matter and regardless of what the reality is. Sounds like a great deal, yes?

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2 hours ago, myata said:

Or put it this way, you spend half as much, still a lot (see posts in this topic), still pay absurd salaries to CEO, PHO and such no questions asked and will spend the rest of your age in lockdowns, masks, and possibly and realistically, mandatory ongoing mRNA-boosting no matter and regardless of what the reality is. Sounds like a great deal, yes?

Still on that same mantra I see. Like CEO's and PHO's work for nothing in other jurisdictions. They may be well paid but their salaries are a minuscule fraction of the total we spend on health care. Even if they each make a million a year, combined they would make 1/11,000th of the total health care budget in BC.

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3 hours ago, cougar said:

25 years for murder, without parole.  Not that I want to see all homeless become killers, but in some cases prison will improve their lives.

That's the only time you will see a maximum sentence in Canada and only because it is the only sentence available. Most murder charges are second degree because the burden of proof is so high with first degree. The sentence is still life but judges have a lot of flexibility when it comes to parole eligibility. 

Maximum sentences are a joke in Canada, they never happen except for murder. Apparently there is no way you can commit any crime in such a heinous manner that it warrants the maximum sentence for that crime.

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54 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Like CEO's and PHO's work for nothing in other jurisdictions.

Have you forgot or just so? Some of us are paid for the work done, the result. And others, as it seems, for permanently, decades on "crumbling", "collapsing", "severely underesourced", "undestuffed", "overloaded" etc you name it, result. Is there a connection between the pay and the result, should there be, what do you think? Why don't we imagine a world where there isn't any? Oh wait...

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22 minutes ago, myata said:

Have you forgot or just so? Some of us are paid for the work done, the result. And others, as it seems, for permanently, decades on "crumbling", "collapsing", "severely underesourced", "undestuffed", "overloaded" etc you name it, result. Is there a connection between the pay and the result, should there be, what do you think? Why don't we imagine a world where there isn't any? Oh wait...

Bla, Bla, Bla. So this is really a matter of ideology with you, not reality.

I get it, anyone who makes more than you is over paid, even if you have no clue what their actual job entails and are completely unqualified to do it.

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37 minutes ago, myata said:

Have you forgot or just so? Some of us are paid for the work done, the result. And others, as it seems, for permanently, decades on "crumbling", "collapsing", "severely underesourced", "undestuffed", "overloaded" etc you name it, result. Is there a connection between the pay and the result, should there be, what do you think? Why don't we imagine a world where there isn't any? Oh wait...

How do you think their salaries compare to private sector CEO"s and COO's of companies with 22 billion dollar operating budgets?

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