Trucker's Convoy

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

Now that the WHO has declared Monkeypox a "global health emergency", I fear they're going to do it again.  Or with Bird Flu.  They keep trying, but less and less people are falling for it this time.

Has there ever been a global health emergency that scared you more than the public health response? 

It just strikes me at some point the actual threat should start to bother you.

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Has there ever been a global health emergency that scared you more than the public health response? 

It just strikes me at some point the actual threat should start to bother you.

The one frequently leads to the other. The global health emergency of the black death was indeed scary. But it was the public response that made it get as bad as it was because they didn't understand what they were doing.

We have failed to learn from history

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Has there ever been a global health emergency that scared you more than the public health response? 

 

Has there been one before covid?

I worked in healthcare during H1N1 and the doc I worked for wasn't freaked out, I asked if I should get vaxxed for it and he said No, I didn't need to, I wasn't at risk.  And I worked closely with patients who presented with it.  And there WERE lots.

H1N1 had almost exact same IFR and transmission rates as covid.  There was some push from authorities to declare it or treat it as a "pandemic" but no one really bought into it at the time. Very few people got vaxxed for it, most who got it just stayed home and rode it out.  Life went on.

AHS came out to all the clinics and fit tested us for masks and there were frequent emails explaining how to adjust clinic procedures for those who presented with coughing and sneezing.

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

It just strikes me at some point the actual threat should start to bother you.

Ebola or Nipah would.

But not a respiratory virus.  Maybe when I'm 85.

[Michael Hardner]

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Has there been one before covid?

I worked in healthcare during H1N1 and the doc I worked for wasn't freaked out, I asked if I should get vaxxed for it and he said No, I didn't need to, I wasn't at risk.  And I worked closely with patients who presented with it.  And there WERE lots.

H1N1 had almost exact same IFR and transmission rates as covid.  There was some push from authorities to declare it or treat it as a "pandemic" but no one really bought into it at the time. Very few people got vaxxed for it, most who got it just stayed home and rode it out.  Life went on.

AHS came out to all the clinics and fit tested us for masks and there were frequent emails explaining how to adjust clinic procedures for those who presented with coughing and sneezing.

Ebola or Nipah would.

But not a respiratory virus.  Maybe when I'm 85.

Sars is one that I can remember....

[Goddess]

22 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

It just strikes me at some point the actual threat should start to bother you.

With covid, it was the irrational response from health bureaucrats that scared me the most.

It was respiratory - yet they banned doctors from giving steroids, antibiotics and in lots of places, Tylenol.  Did you know that?  It's why so many docs and nurses quit.  They felt like they were intentionally killing people by denying the normal protocols for respiratory viruses.

Then the vents.  You should be thankful Trudeau dawdled on procuring them.  By the time Canada got our's, they already knew in the US it was the vents that were killing people.  They were making people sign waivers to be vented.  That procedure is normally done when a patient is near death, it's a last resort and they are not able to sign anything. 

More nurses quit because they could see the vents were killing people, but the desk bureaucrats insisted on these deadly protocols that were never used in resp. viruses before and punished docs and nurses who bucked it.

Bureaucrats sent elderly covid patients back to nursing homes - AGAINST the wishes of docs and nurses.  They were warned and warned.  They ignored actual doctors and nurses. NY Governor Cuomo just got into big shit for it.  Watch the hearings.

Seriously, it's like they were TRYING to kill people. Pump up the death numbers to convince everyone it was deadly.

The original strain was worse for the elderly and already terminally ill, yes - but so is pretty much any flu or pneumonia at that age and poor health levels.  But the survival rate was still very high - over 90%.

Edited August 15 by Goddess

[Goddess]

21 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Sars is one that I can remember....

Seriously, you're a smart man.

If you took the time to find out what shenanigans really went on, you'd be LIVID, like I am.

A lot of people did not have to die.

31 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But it was the public response that made it get as bad as it was because they didn't understand what they were doing.

We have failed to learn from history

Single women with cats who kept the rats away fared very well, so of course they were "witches".

And punished accordingly.

[Goddess]

51 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Sars is one that I can remember....

We have very good protocols for resp. viruses.

The problem during covid was that docs were forbidden from using them.

THAT scares me.

I saw pictures of people who went to hospital, BUT they had informed themselves of what was going on.  They were taking sharpies and writing on their own arms "NO VENT, NO REMDESIVIR"

Edited August 15 by Goddess

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Seriously, you're a smart man.

If you took the time to find out what shenanigans really went on, you'd be LIVID, like I am.

A lot of people did not have to die.

Single women with cats who kept the rats away fared very well, so of course they were "witches".

And punished accordingly.

So were the cats.  Cats and dogs were killed in large numbers by authorities who believed they were the carriers. In the cities, that was a very serious mistake. 

Humans have a long long history of knee-jerk reactions to crises leading to very bad decision making. This is why most dictators come to power in a crisis.

As a group humans are not good at dealing with emergencies. We are a species that collectively decided that the most pressing and Urgent Response the disruption of the supply chains that covid brought about was to stock up on toilet paper.

[Goddess]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So were the cats.  Cats and dogs were killed in large numbers by authorities who believed they were the carriers. In the cities, that was a very serious mistake. 

Humans have a long long history of knee-jerk reactions to crises leading to very bad decision making. This is why most dictators come to power in a crisis.

As a group humans are not good at dealing with emergencies. We are a species that collectively decided that the most pressing and Urgent Response the disruption of the supply chains that covid brought about was to stock up on toilet paper.

I'm well aware that I would've been burnt at the stake in that era.

Hell, some want me burnt at the stake now 🤣

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

They can march on Ottawa claiming discrimination when no one wants to work beside or be served by their blistered,

So, are you honestly still under the impression that the jabs worked, herbie? 

Can you just openly admit to that?

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pus-dripping faces.

OMG. They must have all looked like Kamala.

[Goddess]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Can you just openly admit to that?

They can't.

Common sense tells you that if you have to take a jab every 4 months for the rest of your life, that neither prevents transmission or infection, hospitalization or death....that's a shitty product.  And NOT a vaccine.

[Goddess]

It's crazy how hard it is to change someone's opinion after they've been fed narrative lies for so long. Even when presented with overwhelming evidence that proves they've been lied to.

It's like de-programming from a cult.

Edited August 15 by Goddess

[Goddess]

[WestCanMan]

7 minutes ago, Goddess said:

if you have to take a jab every 4 months for the rest of your life, that neither prevents transmission or infection, hospitalization or death....

I wonder how many jabs guys like @herbie, @eyeball or @ExFlyer have now.

The people who tell them what to do, and whom they fully trust at the exclusion of facts, stats, logic and reason, have told them to take, what... 6 or 7 jabs now? 

At what point do they just throw caution to the wind? Can they, at this point?

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The same is true about "science". Wanna ask these guys what "science" means to them now? 🤣

Edited August 15 by WestCanMan

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

I wonder how many jabs guys like @herbie, @eyeball or @ExFlyer have now.

Wanna ask these guys what "science" means to them now? 

I already know their "science". I watched it for years. 

👇👇

And this:

And being told I wasn't  "following the science" by f#c&kers who were doing shit like this:

Edited August 16 by Goddess

[WestCanMan]

7 minutes ago, Goddess said:

 

TBH, when I see people like ^that^, I don't think of the musicians as being dumb enough to believe that the masks are saving them, I think they just wanted to play music so they played along, and I think that the covid fear-mongers running our country were just satisfied as long as the peons were overtly displaying some form of "covid fear" acknowledgement.

[Goddess]

Sadly, the ABIM today took medical licences away from these 2 frontline doctors who saved literally THOUSANDS of people before the jabs came out by using IVM, HCQ and other drugs. While bureaucrats who hadn't touched a patient in decades denied people antibiotics and even Tylenol.

Dr. Pierre Kory and Dr. Paul Marik testified before the US Senate Subcommittee. Dr. Marik was having great success treating patients with high doses of IV vitamin C, as well, and then was forbidden to use it further.

Vitamin C, people!!!

These were the doctors in the trenches before the jabs came out, trying everything they could find to help people.

But you dolts believed career bureaucrats who hadn't touched a patient in decades and who were getting huge kickbacks from Pfizer while denying the normal basic protocols for respiratory viruses, which KILLED THOUSANDS.

Wake. The fuque. Up. You absolute bunch of m0r0ns.

 

[herbie]

Oh FFS the retreads are still at it.

Here's what I will happily "admit' to.
-I got 3 shots and never caught Covid.
- No one I know who was vaxxed died from Covid or got sick from the vax
- Everyone I know who was vaxxed and did get Covid barely got sick, it was like or less than a normal case of the flu
- ALL the people who did die in this town were not or refused to get vaxxed
_ the three people I know who "only" spent weeks in the ICU with tubes shoved down their throats remain as butt stubborn as you two and insist the vax didn't work anyway, the Doctors were all lying and they had something else more serious and remained off work for years because their Boss wouldn't let them back unvaxxed, not Trudeau. And all three are members of this stupid Evangelical Church that panders to SovCits, homophobes and bigots that hate Catholics and won't shop at the one grocery store as it's on the rez. The Mennonites in their 18th century clothes are more sane and open minded.
-Canada with its high vaccination rate had 1/3 the deaths per capita as the USA which didn't.

So scour the dregs of the Internet all the 'proof' you want, you'll never convince the normal sane people the Conv1diots were heroes and you're not merely butt stubborn malcontents.

[West]

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

Sadly, the ABIM today took medical licences away from these 2 frontline doctors who saved literally THOUSANDS of people before the jabs came out by using IVM, HCQ and other drugs. While bureaucrats who hadn't touched a patient in decades denied people antibiotics and even Tylenol.

Dr. Pierre Kory and Dr. Paul Marik testified before the US Senate Subcommittee. Dr. Marik was having great success treating patients with high doses of IV vitamin C, as well, and then was forbidden to use it further.

Vitamin C, people!!!

These were the doctors in the trenches before the jabs came out, trying everything they could find to help people.

But you dolts believed career bureaucrats who hadn't touched a patient in decades and who were getting huge kickbacks from Pfizer while denying the normal basic protocols for respiratory viruses, which KILLED THOUSANDS.

Wake. The fuque. Up. You absolute bunch of m0r0ns.

 

The heavy handed nonsense is what got me. 

Even with the punishments for protesting their mandates, I see two of the Coutts folks won their court case but still are being held hostage in remand three years later because of Trudeau. Very sick person

[Michael Hardner]

7 hours ago, herbie said:

 

So scour the dregs of the Internet all the 'proof' you want, you'll never convince the normal sane people the Conv1diots were heroes and you're not merely butt stubborn malcontents.

As for the controversy, what there is if it, normal people stopped responding years ago.  So all you hear is fringe noise.

I'm hoping that this means we have adjusted our natural filters to tune out Chud nonsense such as Fauchi wanted to kill people etc.

I did engage with such topics during the pandemic but, hey it was Covid and everyone was bored 🥱 

[Zeitgeist]

19 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

As for the controversy, what there is if it, normal people stopped responding years ago.  So all you hear is fringe noise.

I'm hoping that this means we have adjusted our natural filters to tune out Chud nonsense such as Fauchi wanted to kill people etc.

I did engage with such topics during the pandemic but, hey it was Covid and everyone was bored 🥱 

How can you be so uncritical?  It’s crystal clear that Fauci benefited from big pharma which has also worked hand in glove with governments to suppress legitimate criticism of vaccines and anti-covid measures.  If you can’t see that basic reality and the critical importance of the questions raised about what the hell was happening throughout the pandemic, I don’t know how you can expect to be taken seriously.  We saw the greatest suppression of our rights in our lifetimes and it lasted two and a half years, resulted in a form of martial law in Canada, and raised important questions about the transparency of our government and healthcare.  Your dismissal of any thoughtful critique of what happened by reducing it to Chuds or other Trudeauesque rhetoric demonstrates why we have culture wars.

[ExFlyer]

4 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

How can you be so uncritical?  It’s crystal clear that Fauci benefited from big pharma which has also worked hand in glove with governments to suppress legitimate criticism of vaccines and anti-covid measures.  If you can’t see that basic reality and the critical importance of the questions raised about what the hell was happening throughout the pandemic, I don’t know how you can expect to be taken seriously.  We saw the greatest suppression of our rights in our lifetimes and it lasted two and a half years, resulted in a form of martial law in Canada, and raised important questions about the transparency of our government and healthcare.  Your dismissal of any thoughtful critique of what happened by reducing it to Chuds or other Trudeauesque rhetoric demonstrates why we have culture wars.

You are going to have to provide real documented proof of your allegation. I am sure you will b=not because you cannot.

Not internet tweets or facebook opinion or other opinion but real proof. 'Otherwise, you are just perpetuating the mis and dis information that has become so common these days.

[taxme]

On 8/15/2024 at 2:29 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Has there ever been a global health emergency that scared you more than the public health response? 

It just strikes me at some point the actual threat should start to bother you.

There is no threat out there from anything except maybe a nuclear war. It's all in your imagination. Covid was all BS and this so called climate crisis is all just pure BS. You need to stop listening to the leftist liberal MSM for your news. They lie. 😇

[WestCanMan]

On 8/15/2024 at 8:31 PM, herbie said:

Oh FFS the retreads are still at it.

Here's what I will happily "admit' to.
-I got 3 shots and never caught Covid.
- No one I know who was vaxxed died from Covid or got sick from the vax
- Everyone I know who was vaxxed and did get Covid barely got sick, it was like or less than a normal case of the flu
- ALL the people who did die in this town were not or refused to get vaxxed
_ the three people I know who "only" spent weeks in the ICU with tubes shoved down their throats remain as butt stubborn as you two and insist the vax didn't work anyway, the Doctors were all lying and they had something else more serious and remained off work for years because their Boss wouldn't let them back unvaxxed, not Trudeau. And all three are members of this stupid Evangelical Church that panders to SovCits, homophobes and bigots that hate Catholics and won't shop at the one grocery store as it's on the rez. The Mennonites in their 18th century clothes are more sane and open minded.
-Canada with its high vaccination rate had 1/3 the deaths per capita as the USA which didn't.

So scour the dregs of the Internet all the 'proof' you want, you'll never convince the normal sane people the Conv1diots were heroes and you're not merely butt stubborn malcontents.

That's called an anecdote, id10t. 

The people you know are like spit in the ocean compared to ALL 40M Canadians.

16,000 multi-vaxed Canadians died of covid in 2022. That's more people than died either year before. The jab clearly didn't work for them. 

And people do get injured and die from the vax. That's just a fact. Dying FROM the covid jabs is a scientifically documented fact. 

The POV from the end of your own nose is completely worthless. 

[WestCanMan]

On 8/16/2024 at 4:27 AM, Michael Hardner said:

As for the controversy, what there is if it, normal people stopped responding years ago.  So all you hear is fringe noise.

I'm hoping that this means we have adjusted our natural filters to tune out Chud nonsense such as Fauchi wanted to kill people etc.

I did engage with such topics during the pandemic but, hey it was Covid and everyone was bored 🥱 

It's not "normal people" who stopped responding. It's people who were completely sucked in and would rather sweep it all under the carpet than admit that they were fooled. 

19,000 people died of covid in Canada in 2022 Michael. That's 4,000 more than in 2020. 

Why was media coverage inversely proportional to the number of covid deaths, Michael?