Nefarious Banana Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: They said it may take a year. It is not an inquiry into the truckers, it is into the issuance and requirement and usage of the Emergency Act. Trudeau trying to smooth this over, to look neutral and aware. Would this be his 'open and transparent' government? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Getting back to topic of the trucker convoy and the repercussions to the Emergency Act. It seems the feds have opened a public inquiry as required by the Emergency Act. "The federal government has officially called an independent public inquiry into its use of the Emergencies Act during the blockades at Canadian border crossings and in Ottawa earlier this year." https://ottawa.citynews.ca/local-news/government-calls-inquiry-into-use-of-emergencies-act-5297259 I predict total exoneration. The judge who locked up convoy leader Litch was a Liberal candidate. The parameters for the inquiry are set. The truth of our future is three more years of Lib dictatorship followed by a characterization of anyone who isn’t Liberal by the Liberal-funded media as racist-misogynist-fringe with unacceptable views, producing — what else? — another Liberal PM, or a Conservative in name but Liberal in policy and substance. Edited April 26, 2022 by Zeitgeist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 9 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: I predict total exoneration. The judge who locked up convoy leader Litch was a Liberal candidate. The parameters for the inquiry are set. The truth of our future is three more years of Lib dictatorship followed by a characterization of anyone who isn’t Liberal by the Liberal-funded media as racist-misogynist-fringe with unacceptable views, producing — what else? — another Liberal PM, or a Conservative in name but Liberal in policy and substance. OK. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) Ha, many of us knew the media and government’s stories of billions in lost trade due to blockades were BS. Turns out trade was up in February. https://apple.news/A0ncupaO4RBWf8xoCGxrSSg Edited April 26, 2022 by Zeitgeist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted April 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 20 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: I predict total exoneration. The judge who locked up convoy leader Litch was a Liberal candidate. The parameters for the inquiry are set. The truth of our future is three more years of Lib dictatorship followed by a characterization of anyone who isn’t Liberal by the Liberal-funded media as racist-misogynist-fringe with unacceptable views, producing — what else? — another Liberal PM, or a Conservative in name but Liberal in policy and substance. I dont trust liberals to do the right thing and there are many whove infiltrated the "justice" system through woke universities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted April 27, 2022 Report Share Posted April 27, 2022 On 4/25/2022 at 3:37 PM, ExFlyer said: Yup, pessimism, as expected. You have no idea who is on the investigation team. I'm just gonna go ahead and guess that it's the same top-notch investigators who whatevered the SNC Lavalin scandal and the WE scandal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted April 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: I'm just gonna go ahead and guess that it's the same top-notch investigators who whatevered the SNC Lavalin scandal and the WE scandal. The person overseeing this sham is a former Liberal Party staffer. Expect more leftist lies with the media toadieing for Trudeau 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted April 27, 2022 Report Share Posted April 27, 2022 12 hours ago, West said: The person overseeing this sham is a former Liberal Party staffer. Expect more leftist lies with the media toadieing for Trudeau Not that I am saying you're wrong, but it's a good practice to cite what you're saying, whenever you can, so others can see where you got your information from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted April 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2022 21 minutes ago, marcus said: Not that I am saying you're wrong, but it's a good practice to cite what you're saying, whenever you can, so others can see where you got your information from. "Paul Rouleau, appointed to the bench in 2002 by the Paul Martin Liberal government, isn’t simply someone who made a small donation or two or went to a cocktail fundraiser with a client while working as a lawyer. He actually worked for the Liberal Party in the past." "In 1983, he was part of John Turner’s leadership campaign to take over when Pierre Trudeau announced his retirement. Rouleau then had a hand in helping pick Turner’s cabinet once he won leadership and is described in various media reports as either his executive assistant or appointments secretary in media reports from that era." https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeaus-inquiry-cant-be-used-to-sweep-emergencies-act-failings-under-the-carpet Seems kinda like that sham bail hearing for Tamara Liche where the judge showed clear bias and turned out she was a former LPOC political candidate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 27, 2022 Report Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) On 4/26/2022 at 11:51 PM, West said: The person overseeing this sham is a former Liberal Party staffer. Expect more leftist lies with the media toadieing for Trudeau Canada is now a totalitarian state all institutions in Canada to include the judiciary have fallen to the Communist traitors posing as "Liberals" any attempts to resist them will be prosecuted as "thought crime" then this sham of an "inquiry" which is so obviously a coverup pathetic https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-please-prove-me-wrong-about-this-farce-of-an-inquiry-into-the-emergencies-act Edited April 30, 2022 by Dougie93 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted April 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 As expected the Ottawa gestapo has started peddling more lies about the protest. Man parked in a legal parking spot gets yanked out of his truck for "trespassing". One cop asks him for his license. The other asks him to move. Then when he reaches for his license say he's taking too long and arrest him for not moving.. Type of gestapo like behavior from Ottawa police. I think they went about this protest all wrong.. you know the gestapo will be out to provoke violence and then try and discredit. Very sick people. No respect for cops anymore... they are vile scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted April 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 What is it with the Ottawa Gestapo attacking elderly ladies? What instigated the "violence" was the police tossing an elderly lady and her husband to the ground and assaulting another elderly lady according to eye witnesses. That's liberals for you folks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oksanna Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, West said: What is it with the Ottawa Gestapo attacking elderly ladies? What instigated the "violence" was the police tossing an elderly lady and her husband to the ground and assaulting another elderly lady according to eye witnesses. That's liberals for you folks... Liberals are the police? Lol. And you aren't grossly overstating what happened? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted April 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, Oksanna said: Liberals are the police? Lol. And you aren't grossly overstating what happened? Nah.. they began to March a route pre planned by the cops, cops said they no longer could, assaulted an elderly lady then when were getting rolled by the big boys, cried about it and claimed it a "riot". It's all on video bud. Leftists and the Ottawa gestapo are a disgrace to a free society Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oksanna Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, West said: Nah.. they began to March a route pre planned by the cops, cops said they no longer could, assaulted an elderly lady then when were getting rolled by the big boys, cried about it and claimed it a "riot". It's all on video bud. Leftists and the Ottawa gestapo are a disgrace to a free society You can see this video? Where could one see this video? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Government propaganda should not be allowed in a democratic society. As massive experience shows, it is a true, clear and present danger to the democracy possibly above all else. Propaganda affects minds for decades. We had an obscure, closed governing system with few if any controls and accountability for decades if not centuries. And now it has discovered that it can use propaganda. What fraking "elections" in a society scared to its balls? Does it work, and for who? Kim could have elections too if only he cared. And we have nothing that can be done about it. We are screwed - now a fact of reality. Democracy, in its true meaning in this country will not survive. It just cannot - not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, myata said: And we have nothing that can be done about it. We are screwed - now a fact of reality. Democracy, in its true meaning in this country will not survive. It just cannot - not a chance. Canada is simply obselete as Canada is nothing more than the Confederation a Confederation cobbled together in the 19th century for a specific purpose to keep the French in, the Americans out, and the Indians down an east - west alliance against American freedom, with a militia to defend against American invasion that has all simply become a fool's errand by now, here in the 21st century but why would you be screwed without it ? if the French were free to leave, if the Americans were free to enter, if the Indians were free of the Indian Act how would that screw you ? you can't live without an archaic 19th century Victorian royalist elite protecting you from freedom ? Edited April 30, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) Canada is in fact an entirely British imperial project an Iron curtain against rowdy & raucous American freedom so you have to ask yourself ultimately, if you were called upon to do so would you fight for the British Empire still ? would you go to war against the Quebecois, to force them into Confederation ? would you go to war against the Americans, for Queen Victoria ? would you crush the Indians under your high brown Strathcona jackboots, for a British North American aristocracy ? would you kill & die for a Scots German Empire seeking a Northwest Passage to India ? Edited April 30, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) Canada has a lot going for it. Its advantage over the US has been that it’s less violent and the society has generally been more cohesive. The long winter is our geographic reality. I find it too long and like to go south if I can. I think we’re learning that the downside of our country is that we’re too reliant on government to take care of us and dictate how we live and think. It’s a danger to liberal-democracy and capitalism. Make no mistake, property rights and individual liberty go hand in hand. The right to bear arms is a way of ensuring those rights remain (although the US government retains the power of death over any citizens’ militia for sure and will exercise it). We don’t understand in Canada the importance of individual liberty and the dangers of government overreach. Correction: Millions of Canadians have learned from pandemic measures and the government action taken against the vaccine mandate protests just how precarious our democracy is. Our government is willing to vilify political opponents, seize their assets, and use international police to crush citizens. Our government isn’t fully accountable to the people and seems quite beholden to international organizations, undermining our sovereignty. Our government is maintaining unconstitutional and unscientific policies like the digital vaccine passport. We don’t seem to have much recourse either, because our court system and media are dominated by an internationalist, woke, socialist, anti-free speech ideology. It’s the Liberal Party of Canada. Any opposition is painted as racist-misogynist-fringe with unacceptable views and government can and has crushed political opponents. It’s because of these latter points that I do wonder if we’d be better off with the Yanks, as their rights seem more protected and they seem to have more of them. They do have real political opposition. I think Canadians need to reevaluate how we run this country. If we want to call Canada a liberal-democrat, sovereign nation-state, we better act like one. Edited April 30, 2022 by Zeitgeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Dougie93 said: to keep the French in, the Americans out, and the Indians down There's some truth to it. Canada has struggled to find its own national narrative over the last century. There wasn't anything obvious so it had to be created. Heroic fighting in someone else's wars (WWII one obvious exception, not so obvious at first). Beavers. Mounties. Peacekeeping. Inviting the world over (aka multiculturalism). And above all, preservation of archaic and obsolete self absorbed and bordering on authoritarian governance system. The dead end is already in sight working hard as we are to not notice it. It could have been world's best; cleanest, transparent and efficient democracy, starting from scratch with the wealth of experience; sustainability, clean and modern cities fast trains connecting them. World's standard in innovation, efficiency, sustainability. Free education at all levels lifetime. Universal prosperity. But no. These goals, one and two are just incompatible, the vectors pointing in different, opposite directions. Just too bad. Could have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 Putin had an election with massive propaganda of Putin. In Canada we just had a pandemic election after two years of Covid-scare. What is democratic worth of these so called "elections"? Why isn't anyone noticing the parallels? Funny. And scary, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 I think we should minimize the controls and taxation of the federal government. My government is mostly the government of Ontario and its cities. I want the maximum freedom of movement and opportunity for my kids. We have an excellent public education system and we’re building good transportation networks and liveable communities. Constitutional rights must be sacrosanct and we should be wary of adding more cradle to grave “free” social safety net benefits, as these can actually be forms of imprisonment: mandated health programs, long-term care farms, assisted suicide for the mentally ill… I wouldn’t go beyond pharmacare and there shouldn’t be mandatory meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, myata said: Beavers. Mounties. Peacekeeping. Inviting the world over (aka multiculturalism) that's two opposing sides of the coin Beavers & Mounties from Queenston Heights to Juno Beach while Peacekeeping & Multiculturalism are products of the Cold War within the American Hegenomy Beavers being Novelle France, Mounties being the House of Hanover Peacekeeping & Multiculturalism being the Liberal Party of Canada Post National State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 32 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: I think we should minimize the controls and taxation of the federal government. But you can't have that. No sorry. You can only have the read head or the blue head of the same, ruling authocracy and it's what they (heads) decide and need, not you. This is how the system was designed from day 1 and you haven't thought about that or done anything in over a century. And why would it have anything other now? It's working very well (for it). And it knows best what is good for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted April 30, 2022 Report Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: good transportation networks and liveable communities. What is good in it? For which century? This is the 21st, trains are moving at 500 to 700 km/hr, in Vietnam too. It would be just over an hour, Montreal to Toronto, where can we see it, in what picture book? While MP salary at 5 times the median income and growing happily (unlike the latter). At what level, number is it too much? Who knows it and sets it? This is already stagnation, of universal prosperity, ideas, ability to do anything not trivial. Productivity and innovation will follow. Then, physical and visible decline. Edited April 30, 2022 by myata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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