Dougie93 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 minute ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: The protest became illegal as soon as it was declared an occupation. Illegal blockade of streets, illegal occupation. false declaration, in order to facilitate fascist circumvention of fundamental rights 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: No, as I said they broke the law before by being present in an illegal occupation. If I rob a bank then hide in farmer's field that doesn't immune me from arrest. An illegal occupation now eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Just now, West said: An illegal occupation now eh. the fascists in Canada simply don't have the courage of their convictions they advocate for classical fascism, the very definition of they are already crushing people under their fascists jackboots but they are incapable of calling it what it is, they are afraid to admit it, for whatever reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 13 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: This is full-on Caucescu’s Romania. I think this is why so many immigrants supported the protest. I saw more than just a few interviews with protesters who came from countries like Poland, the Ukraine, Iran, Romania (one was a Romanian truck driver that was beaten by police)etc. who all said that what is happening in Canada is scaring the life outta them because they saw the same things happening in their old countries before things went really, really south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexii Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 51 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: The truckers convoy is regrouping in rural areas surrounding Ottawa https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/freedom-convoy-protesters-regroup-in-rural-communities-surrounding-ottawa-1.5791556 What I don't understand is WHY law enforcement under emergency act don't go there and arrest all of them for participating in an illegal protest and occupation of the Capital. If I break the law say rob a bank and run off and hide in a farm, I can still be arrested and charged, can't I? Why not just go down there and shoot them all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Nexii said: Why not just go down there and shoot them all Because they should be put on trial and if found guilty then charged according to the law. Because this is not an islamic republic or a military dictatorship to shot people for opposing the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nexii said: Why not just go down there and shoot them all the government is clearly trying to provoke people into some sort of desperate action so the government can then play the victim and unleash even harsher measures again, classical fascism but these Canadian politicians are out of their depth they don't have the forces to manage what they are trying to provoke thus it seems on trajectory to blow up in their faces exponentially beyond their control widespread breakdown of civil order, bank runs, capital flight, economic collapse, etcetera 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexii Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Just now, CITIZEN_2015 said: Because they should be put on trial and if found guilty then charged according to the law. Because this is not an islamic republic or a military dictatorship to shot people for opposing the government. We're not doing trials before jailing people and freezing their bank accounts, seems like wasted effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 57 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: The truckers convoy is regrouping in rural areas surrounding Ottawa https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/freedom-convoy-protesters-regroup-in-rural-communities-surrounding-ottawa-1.5791556 What I don't understand is WHY law enforcement under emergency act don't go there and arrest all of them for participating in an illegal protest and occupation of the Capital. If I break the law say rob a bank and run off and hide in a farm, I can still be arrested and charged, can't I? Yes arresting protesters, including seeking them out and stripping away their basic rights including access to money and employment, happened all the time in the Holocaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuebecOverCanada Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Because they should be put on trial and if found guilty then charged according to the law. Because this is not an islamic republic or a military dictatorship to shot people for opposing the government. Where do you draw a line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 7 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: I highly doubt the courts can be trusted they are packed with Liberal cronies In watching the Senate hearings yesterday, it was disappointing to see so many of them repeating the same lies from the MSM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 like at this point when I call a Senator I'm not saying; hey, you have to support the truckers, nor anything like that at this point, I'm just saying the government is out of control doesn't really matter what your political position is this is on trajectory to catastrophe for everybody in the country it's going to blow up in the government's face at some point and they don't have the capacity to control what they are unleashing they're not even acting in their own interests anymore, so this is madness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Because they should be put on trial and if found guilty then charged according to the law. Because this is not an islamic republic or a military dictatorship to shot people for opposing the government. You’re one scary person. It’s also scary knowing there are many others with your oppressive views. They’re in power now. Hope you’re enjoying the crisis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Because they should be put on trial and if found guilty then charged according to the law. Because this is not an islamic republic or a military dictatorship to shot people for opposing the government. You'd never know it by how Trudeau handled himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said: Where do you draw a line? There is no line to draw. They participated in an illegal occupation and now they are parking in private property to regroup and repeat the illegal act again. They should be put on trial for participating in an illegal occupation and if found guilty based on the existing laws then sentenced and if not then freed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: like at this point when I call a Senator I'm not saying; hey, you have to support the truckers, nor anything like that at this point, I'm just saying the government is out of control doesn't really matter what your political position is this is on trajectory to catastrophe for everybody in the country it's going to blow up in the government's face at some point and they don't have the capacity to control what they are unleashing they're not even acting in their own interests anymore, so this is madness But why is Trudeau persisting on this path? He seems to think he can get away with being totally unaccountable, which makes me think he has unelected international forces backing him. Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum said he penetrated more than half of our Cabinet. It’s an insane gamble Trudeau seems willing to make if it means watching people starve or shoot themselves. Putin seems to know what’s happening. Biden even seems to know because he’s playing the demented elderly man. Yesterday’s press conference on Ukraine was unbelievably incompetent. The CNN political analyst who reported it yesterday called him Brandon, which is code for ______. This is a serious existential crisis for Canadian democracy and perhaps democracy everywhere. Fox is reporting it which is why Democrats are flocking to it. In fact everyone is freaking out and flocking to the GOP because they’re the only ones calling out what’s happening. Edited February 23, 2022 by Zeitgeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Yes arresting protesters, including seeking them out and stripping away their basic rights including access to money and employment, happened all the time in the Holocaust. Prisoners are treated better than those on the outs. At least if you are a prisoner in this case you can eat. Non prisoners can't. Just have their banks locked up without due process, left to starve or freeze in the middle of winter. Trudeau's Canada Edited February 23, 2022 by West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: There is no line to draw. They participated in an illegal occupation and now they are parking in private property to regroup and repeat the illegal act again. They should be put on trial for participating in an illegal occupation and if found guilty based on the existing laws then sentenced and if not then freed. Alleged illegal occupation* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 56 minutes ago, West said: The accounts they are facing are "mischief" charges and "counsel to commit mischief". So basically what they are alleging is that the convoy organizers counseled people to obstruct property (either greater or less than $5000). The things working in the defense's favor: 1. They instructed their own ban on horns. 2. They worked cooperatively with police to leave lanes open for emergency vehicles. Videos from the organizers were sent out advising truckers to cooperate with police if they were asked to clear lanes downtown. 3. Two police chiefs resigned. 4. Several police officers resigned after not being willing to follow unlawful orders. 5. While the city ordered the malls closed, citing "safety concerns", others remained open. They are on camera stating they have made enough money from the protests to cover the next three months rent. 6. OPP provided a police escort for the convoy to the city of Ottawa. 7. The Whatsapp account showing police expressing their desire for brutality 8. Mounted police running over a lady in a walker and other videos of excessive force. 9. They included a legal team very early on indicating they had no intention of breaking any laws. Of course this is simply a show trial under the direction of a former Liberal Party candidate so who knows how it turns out? Yes, the city of Ottawa and the police were aware the convoy was coming - organizers communicated with and got permission to protest there. I think what happened is that NO ONE - not the police, not the city - expected the prime minister to slander and then completely ignore them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Goddess said: Yes, the city of Ottawa and the police were aware the convoy was coming - organizers communicated with and got permission to protest there. I think what happened is that NO ONE - not the police, not the city - expected the prime minister to slander and then completely ignore them. Your post is too fact-laden. Leftists will ignore it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, West said: Prisoners are treated better than those on the outs. At least if you are a prisoner in this case you can eat. Non prisoners can't. Just have their banks locked up without due process, left to starve or freeze in the middle of winter. Trudeau's Canada Right like the Uighers? Arbeit macht frei right? This is insane. Deplatforming and stripping protesters of money, insurance, license, and ability to work. It’s a concentration camp without a fence. Punishing political opponents by making them political prisoners. Edited February 23, 2022 by Zeitgeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Because this is not an islamic republic or a military dictatorship to shot people for opposing the government. Not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Goddess said: I think what happened is that NO ONE - not the police, not the city - expected the prime minister to slander and then completely ignore them. That's because they haven't been paying attention. Trudeau has been a man child his whole life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: There is no line to draw. They participated in an illegal occupation and now they are parking in private property to regroup and repeat the illegal act again. They should be put on trial for participating in an illegal occupation and if found guilty based on the existing laws then sentenced and if not then freed. Blah blah blah. Is that the only option? Can't the leader of this country address some very basic concerns that every single Canadian shares? FYI there are almost 2,000 dbl- and triple-vaxed deaths in Canada in the last two months. The vax isn't working well enough to be shoved down the throat of every Canadian. If people like you would have thought for a second : "Maybe the current vaxes do need to be better. Maybe just shoving force vaxing everyone with garbage isn't the answer." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 19 hours ago, West said: "Nazi nazi nazi, white Nationalist white Nationalist white nationalist". All I hear from you guys without a shred of evidence That's the echo from you guys going baaaa! It's coming from all directions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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