The stolen election .

[H B Lowrey]

On 1/18/2022 at 12:58 AM, Colin Norris said:

Does anyone still believe the election was rigged, stolen, call it what you like. 

If you do, can evidence be presented to prove enough fraudulence to swing it to trump. 

That was put to rest long ago.

[Colin Norris]

As I thought, the lack of documented evidence is clear. Every post is filled with hear say and propaganda from the right. 

Not a single mention of the challenges by trump that failed.  Nothing about how the democrats orchestrated millions of votes into the system and not one Republican electoral official noticed. 

It reminds of a dead carcass. Occasionally making noises and emitting smells but nonetheless dead all the same. 

[ironstone]

10 minutes ago, Colin Norris said:

As I thought, the lack of documented evidence is clear. Every post is filled with hear say and propaganda from the right. 

Not a single mention of the challenges by trump that failed.  Nothing about how the democrats orchestrated millions of votes into the system and not one Republican electoral official noticed. 

It reminds of a dead carcass. Occasionally making noises and emitting smells but nonetheless dead all the same. 

So would you equate Trump's claims of a stolen election with those of Hillary Clinton and Al Gore?

[H B Lowrey]

11 minutes ago, Colin Norris said:

As I thought, the lack of documented evidence is clear. Every post is filled with hear say and propaganda from the right. 

Not a single mention of the challenges by trump that failed.  Nothing about how the democrats orchestrated millions of votes into the system and not one Republican electoral official noticed. 

It reminds of a dead carcass. Occasionally making noises and emitting smells but nonetheless dead all the same. 

Don's a hopelessly pathological liar and a childishly feckless and impotent whiny little sore loser.  It's all he's ever been.

[H B Lowrey]

1 minute ago, ironstone said:

So would you equate Trump's claims of a stolen election with those of Hillary Clinton and Al Gore?

See Jan 6th.

[Colin Norris]

On 1/21/2022 at 10:49 AM, ironstone said:

So would you equate Trump's claims of a stolen election with those of Hillary Clinton and Al Gore?

Definately not.  I don't recall them still whinging 12 months after the event or orchestrating a violent attack on the capitol or being dragged through a inquiry to justify it like trump. Aren't you pleased you asked a stupid question? I am. 

[ironstone]

15 hours ago, Colin Norris said:

Definately not.  I don't recall them still whinging 12 months after the event or orchestrating a violent attack on the capitol or being dragged through a inquiry to justify it like trump. Aren't you pleased you asked a stupid question? I am. 

It's whining not whinging. Gore didn't WHINE too much after his lengthy court battle ended. Hillary is another story, she's still going on after the 2016 shocker.

Biden is apparently questioning whether the 2022 midterm elections will be illegitimate if his voting rights bill isn't passed. That's the bill that does away with voters having to produce ID in order to vote.

Biden Draws Criticism After Raising Prospect of Illegitimate 2022 Election - WSJ

Please use spell check! 

[H B Lowrey]

4 minutes ago, ironstone said:

It's whining not whinging. Gore didn't WHINE too much after his lengthy court battle ended. Hillary is another story, she's still going on after the 2016 shocker.

Biden is apparently questioning whether the 2022 midterm elections will be illegitimate if his voting rights bill isn't passed. That's the bill that does away with voters having to produce ID in order to vote.

Biden Draws Criticism After Raising Prospect of Illegitimate 2022 Election - WSJ

Please use spell check! 

Not to worry, america has always maintained that the "right" to vote is not for all.  From the very founding.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, H B Lowrey said:

Not to worry, america has always maintained that the "right" to vote is not for all.  From the very founding.

OMG, you claim to be an American and that's the depth of your understanding of American history?

Read up on the Democrats' old militia, the KKK, and see what they used to get up to back when blacks first got the right to vote. 

[eyeball]

On 1/20/2022 at 11:12 AM, WestCanMan said:

Elections aren't controlled federally. That's done at the state level. 

But I thought it was done at the MSM level, like everything else.

[WestCanMan]

11 minutes ago, eyeball said:

But I thought it was done at the MSM level, like everything else.

To some extent it is. 

Lying about federal polling data is a good way to influence that part of the population known as 'the sheeple'. Saying "these are the cool kids" gets their votes, while inducing apathy into their opposition's voters.  

Polls are also good for damage control. For example, CBC and CTV always trot out polls that say "this issue hasn't hurt the PM's popularity" when they're trying to put a bow on a scandal. 

[eyeball]

29 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

To some extent it is. 

Lying about federal polling data is a good way to influence that part of the population known as 'the sheeple'. Saying "these are the cool kids" gets their votes, while inducing apathy into their opposition's voters.  

Polls are also good for damage control. For example, CBC and CTV always trot out polls that say "this issue hasn't hurt the PM's popularity" when they're trying to put a bow on a scandal.

Yer a fricken' loon man.

[Colin Norris]

5 hours ago, ironstone said:

It's whining not whinging.

It's whinging in my language. You might haven't swallowed a dictionary when younger but it wasn't an English version. 

Don't be so arrogant. 

Gore didn't WHINE too much after his lengthy court battle ended. Hillary is another story, she's still going on after the 2016 shocker.

Biden is apparently questioning whether the 2022 midterm elections will be illegitimate if his voting rights bill isn't passed. That's the bill that does away with voters having to produce ID in order to vote.

Biden Draws Criticism After Raising Prospect of Illegitimate 2022 Election - WSJ

The fact remains and always will.  Trump was responsible for the first ever coup to destroy democracy. He was the one who made the court challenges which all failed. 

As a Republican you should have condemned it but like the rest you went with the flow of ignorant red necks who hate democrats . You were prepared to sacrifice democracy purely to install a dictator. What a disgraceful episode in the history of the nation. It goes to  show the pure bile and venom and contempt republicans have for freedom. You would rather a dictator than democracy. 

Spell check that.  Had enough yet? 

 

[H B Lowrey]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

OMG, you claim to be an American and that's the depth of your understanding of American history?

Read up on the Democrats' old militia, the KKK, and see what they used to get up to back when blacks first got the right to vote. 

You would not have been granted the "right" to vote by our founders son.

[ironstone]

12 hours ago, Colin Norris said:

 

A coup? Hilarious?

What dictators past and present would you compare Trump to? 

[ironstone]

The reality is that the Republican Party’s legacy is one of emancipation, voting rights, civil rights and freedom for all Americans. Throughout the history of our great nation, the Democrats opposed the Republican Party’s social justice efforts.

After the Civil War, the Republicans elected 23 African Americans (13 of whom were ex-slaves) to Congress. It took the Democrats sixty more years to elect an African American to Congress. In the south, the Democrats held out until two years after I was born (1973) to elect an African American. Here in Texas, the Republican Party was founded by African Americans in 1876 and African Americans across other states followed suit.

In 1865, 100% of Republicans voted to free the slaves by passing the 13th Amendment while 77% of Democrats voted against the measure. Three years later 100% of Republicans voted to give African Americans the same civil rights as whites through the passage of the 14th Amendment while 100% of Democrats voted against the measure. Two years later 100% of Republicans voted to guarantee African-Americans the right to vote by passing the 15th Amendment, again every single Democrat voted against the amendment. These key legislative victories form the basis of the Republican Party’s legacy of freedom and justice for all. Every Republican, from Lincoln to Reagan, can be proud of this legacy.

[WestCanMan]

22 hours ago, eyeball said:

Yer a fricken' loon man.

You're just flooding the zone with stupid comments eyeball. I'm answering your questions as a courtesy.

[BeaverFever]

On 1/20/2022 at 2:12 PM, WestCanMan said:

Elections aren't controlled federally. That's done at the state level. 

That doesn’t answer  question.   How was Biden  supposedly able too step the election at tue state level without leaving a shred of evidence, while Trump was unable to stop him at the state level despite supposedly being so much smarter?

 

THE BIG LIE is just so much unrealistic implausible bullshit …the issue isn’t that it’s an untrue accusation it’s that it’s such an obviously “impossible-to-be-true” accusation   A “no sane person in their right mind could possibly believe this” accusation. 
 

Evn the people pushing THE BIG LIE don’t even have a coherent story of outlining the details of their  batshit conspiracy their (ie they still haven’t articulated the who/what/where/when/why/how). It’s just all these disjointed half-baked  rumours that make no sense, and of course  zero evidence fir any of it. 

[BeaverFever]

23 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

OMG, you claim to be an American and that's the depth of your understanding of American history?

Read up on the Democrats' old militia, the KKK, and see what they used to get up to back when blacks first got the right to vote. 

That’s exactly what’s he’s referring to dummy. And those Dixiecrats kkk racists have all be voting  Republican for 50 years now

[BeaverFever]

8 hours ago, ironstone said:

The reality is that the Republican Party’s legacy is one of emancipation, voting rights, civil rights and freedom for all Americans. Throughout the history of our great nation, the Democrats opposed the Republican Party’s social justice efforts.

After the Civil War, the Republicans elected 23 African Americans (13 of whom were ex-slaves) to Congress. It took the Democrats sixty more years to elect an African American to Congress. In the south, the Democrats held out until two years after I was born (1973) to elect an African American. Here in Texas, the Republican Party was founded by African Americans in 1876 and African Americans across other states followed suit.

In 1865, 100% of Republicans voted to free the slaves by passing the 13th Amendment while 77% of Democrats voted against the measure. Three years later 100% of Republicans voted to give African Americans the same civil rights as whites through the passage of the 14th Amendment while 100% of Democrats voted against the measure. Two years later 100% of Republicans voted to guarantee African-Americans the right to vote by passing the 15th Amendment, again every single Democrat voted against the amendment. These key legislative victories form the basis of the Republican Party’s legacy of freedom and justice for all. Every Republican, from Lincoln to Reagan, can be proud of this legacy.

Well don’t skip over the part of Goldwater and Nixon’s southern strategy and LBJs support for civil rights which caused the all those racist southerners to switch to the Republican Party. Literally everyone who marched with MLK and later entered politics  did so as a Democrat while  Republicans  reviled them as race-baiters and reverse racists for daring to still talk about civil rights

[BeaverFever]

8 hours ago, ironstone said:

A coup? Hilarious?

What dictators past and present would you compare Trump to? 

Any of the failed ones 

[BeaverFever]

On 1/20/2022 at 2:19 PM, WestCanMan said:

Just because you don't want it to be true doesn't mean that it isn't.

Hillary was caught cheating 3x and no one denies it.

That’s fucking hilarious coming from the guy who’s religiously devoted to the most ridiculously unbelievable conspiracy theory BASED ON ZERO EVIDENCE JUST BECAUSE TRUMP SAYS ITS TRUE 

 

Hillary was not caught doing anything illegal and that’s a fact. 
 

On the other hand we now know that the forged pro-Trump electoral certificates that were submitted to DC in at least 7 states was coordinated by Giuliani and not simply over enthusiastic and misguided random  Trump supporters.
 

AND followingTrumps Supreme Court loss on his “executive privilege” we also know he drafted an executive order for the military to seize all voting machines   Add those attempts to steal the election to what happened on Jan 6 and his overall  BIG LIE and that’s something you would expect from a dictator in shithole country 

[WestCanMan]

25 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

That doesn’t answer  question.   How was Biden  supposedly able too step the election at tue state level without leaving a shred of evidence, while Trump was unable to stop him at the state level despite supposedly being so much smarter?

Joe Biden, is that you?

Just copy and paste your answers from your handlers Joe, no one understands your pidgin English.

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THE BIG LIE is just so much unrealistic implausible bullshit …the issue isn’t that it’s an untrue accusation it’s that it’s such an obviously “impossible-to-be-true” accusation   A “no sane person in their right mind could possibly believe this” accusation. 

Which one of your lies are you talking about? I lost track.

 

[WestCanMan]

26 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

That’s exactly what’s he’s referring to dummy. And those Dixiecrats kkk racists have all be voting  Republican for 50 years now

No, the kkk is still a Democrat org, they've just changed up their MO. 

They push abortions into black communities, they create racial division which keeps angry black kids stuck in the ghetto, and they import their cheap labour from Mexico. That's why the border is wide open for human traffickers. 

Dems: "This goddamned wall is killing the slave trade!"

[BeaverFever]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Joe Biden, is that you?

Just copy and paste your answers from your handlers Joe, no one understands your pidgin English.

Which one of your lies are you talking about? I lost track.

 

Of course you lost track. You people can’t keep track of anything 

 

Lets try that top one again:

 

That doesn’t answer the question.   How was Biden supposedly able to steal the election at the state level without leaving a shred of evidence, while Trump was unable to stop him at the state level despite supposedly being so much smarter?