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The problem is the health care system is in a crisis with all the Covid patients and innocent vaccinated Canadians needing heart and cancer surgery and other surgeries are being put on hold.  They are being deprived of healthcare which according to the Health Care Act is supposed to be accessible and universal for everyone.  Non-Covid medical patients are being treated as second class citizens in Canada.  Disaster is already here.

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54 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The problem is the health care system is in a crisis with all the Covid patients and innocent vaccinated Canadians needing heart and cancer surgery and other surgeries are being put on hold.  They are being deprived of healthcare which according to the Health Care Act is supposed to be accessible and universal for everyone.  Non-Covid medical patients are being treated as second class citizens in Canada.  Disaster is already here.

soviet bread line health care doesn't deliver as promised, who knew?

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12 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Don't let the simplest and most reasonable explanation sway you though.

"Simplest and most reasonable" is to have two prince stories in the world news but not this one, given that the narrative has been on all channels non-stop for 24 months? Are you forgetting that simplicity is relative too? For example it's very simple and natural for a totalitarian mind to not want to hear anything that would contradict the dogma. It just creates an inpleasant dissonance between the internal (dogmatic) picture and the reality outside, so maybe there's a way to avoid it?

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This is what Quebec doctors and nurses are seeing in ER during the Omicron wave and that is:

Unvaccinated still overwhelmingly more likely to end up needing care or dying, data shows

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-hospitals-omicron-er-1.6315394

 

Or are anti-vaxers saying that all Quebec doctors and nurses are in conspiracy with other doctors and nurses i the world together with all government bodies in the world and all health experts and experts in the field and New media together to lie and get the poison vaccine into our arms???!!!!!!!!.

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14 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

This is what Quebec doctors and nurses are seeing in ER during the Omicron wave and that is:

Unvaccinated still overwhelmingly more likely to end up needing care or dying, data shows

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-hospitals-omicron-er-1.6315394

 

Or are anti-vaxers saying that all Quebec doctors and nurses are in conspiracy with other doctors and nurses i the world together with all government bodies in the world and all health experts and experts in the field and New media together to lie and get the poison vaccine into our arms???!!!!!!!!.

An Ontario ICU doctor interviewed on Question Period last Sunday said that the hospital isn’t overwhelmed.  He did say that staffing is a problem and blamed the lockdown, because parents had to watch their kids at home during online learning.  Manufactured crisis.  

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24 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

An Ontario ICU doctor interviewed on Question Period last Sunday said that the hospital isn’t overwhelmed.  He did say that staffing is a problem and blamed the lockdown, because parents had to watch their kids at home during online learning.  Manufactured crisis.  

Ridiculous. This single doctor was out of his mind. 4000 covid patients are in Ontario hospitals alone taking the beds and some ICUs and they had to cancel some important surgeries as a result like cancer surgeries and this guy comes and claims his hospital is not overwhelmed!!!!. Also most of those health professionals are off on sick leave infected with covid not on family related leave like watching their kids.

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34 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Ridiculous. This single doctor was out of his mind. 4000 covid patients are in Ontario hospitals alone taking the beds and some ICUs and they had to cancel some important surgeries as a result like cancer surgeries and this guy comes and claims his hospital is not overwhelmed!!!!. Also most of those health professionals are off on sick leave infected with covid not on family related leave like watching their kids.

I’ll trust the word of the ICU doctor over yours, thanks.  The cancellation of important surgeries speaks to incompetent management more than anything else.

Keeping Covid positive people home who aren’t sick and making kids learn at home are what’s driving our staff shortages, not serious illness.  

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1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

I’ll trust the word of the ICU doctor over yours, thanks.  The cancellation of important surgeries speaks to incompetent management more than anything else.

Keeping Covid positive people home who aren’t sick and making kids learn at home are what’s driving our staff shortages, not serious illness.  

When you have thousands of workers off because of Omricon, stuff gets cancelled. 

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2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

An Ontario ICU doctor interviewed on Question Period last Sunday said that the hospital isn’t overwhelmed.  He did say that staffing is a problem and blamed the lockdown, because parents had to watch their kids at home during online learning.  Manufactured crisis.  

Which hospital? The hospital isn't overwhelmed but staffing is a problem. Which is it?

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6 hours ago, blackbird said:

........ all the Covid patients and innocent vaccinated Canadians needing heart and cancer surgery and other surgeries are being put on hold.  They are being deprived of healthcare which according to the Health Care Act is supposed to be accessible and universal for everyone.  Non-Covid medical patients are being treated as second class citizens in Canada.  Disaster is already here.

Those non-covid patients can still fly, go to restaurants and do whatever they like, including go to the hospital. Nobody denied them anything.  The unvaccinated are treated as second class citizens.  Stop your never ending bullshit saga!

What are you suggesting, that they are somehow guilty and vaccinated who jump around between countries bringing viruses home are innocent?  STFU!

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26 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Facebook, YouTube, Twitter. LOL

Those numbers come from provincial health authorities, not the CBC. The CBC just reports them and they are not the only ones.

 

CBC is the Pravda of Canada. It does what the Federal government tells it to do.

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Right off the radio: a Liberal MP supports a tax on unvaccinated "who make up the bulk of hospitalizations".

This is simply and evidently not true. The numbers are given and seen everywhere, including right above in this topic.

How can one say publicly something that is patently not true? Why can they keep saying and repeating these un-truths?

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5 minutes ago, myata said:

Right off the radio: a Liberal MP supports a tax on unvaccinated "who make up the bulk of hospitalizations".

This is simply and evidently not true. The numbers are given and seen everywhere, including right above in this topic.

How can one say something that is patently not true? Why can they keep saying and repeating these un-truths?

 

The Big Lie...say it enough...and enough will believe you. Then you can act!

 

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1 hour ago, Aristides said:

When you have thousands of workers off because of Omricon, stuff gets cancelled. 

What’s the point of keeping people with Omicron who aren’t sick and their close contacts from working?   To “stop the spread”?  Lol.  It’s everywhere.  Let it go.  Ask Elsa.  

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38 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

What’s the point

Unless the point is control itself. Not over the infection, this is quite obvious now. But over the society. Continuation of the dogma that by unquestionably following whatever we say you help us control it, as the reality out the window shows we have no clue how to control. This at least would make some sense, but what else?

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4 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

This is what Quebec doctors and nurses are seeing in ER during the Omicron wave and that is:

Unvaccinated still overwhelmingly more likely to end up needing care or dying, data shows

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-hospitals-omicron-er-1.6315394

 

Or are anti-vaxers saying that all Quebec doctors and nurses are in conspiracy with other doctors and nurses i the world together with all government bodies in the world and all health experts and experts in the field and New media together to lie and get the poison vaccine into our arms???!!!!!!!!.

people with co-morbidities are taking up the ICU beds

vaccinated or unvaccinated

there is no vaccinating our way out of a Soviet bread line health care problem

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35 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

See Eyeball even a guy like you can make a difference in the world.

Yup. I remember when some sneaky backroom political scandal was dominating the news and Andrew Coyne commented on a TV panel that maybe the idea of subjecting politicians to monitoring wasn't such a bad one.  It was shortly after I'd written a letter to that very effect to the editor of the National Post when he worked there.

Anyone here remember or participate in the discussion forum that attended the creation of the National Post before they shut it down?

Too many dangerous ideas maybe? 🕶️

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On 1/14/2022 at 1:05 PM, Moonbox said:

If I didn't know better I'd assume you were trying to be funny.  This reads like a 4dchan reddit copy-pasta. I'm not sure if there's an original thought in the whole post.  You basically went through a qanon checklist of conspiracy nonsense about "peasants" and "big pharma" and "scandemic".  Yikes.  

Have you ever given a thought about taking an IQ test for yourself before? If not, I suggest that you look into doing that right away. Just saying. 😀

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